Re: [BackupPC-users] 3.1.0 configuration problem
Yeah, I'm not sure how anyone would get that right without help. :-) On Sep 9, 2009, at 9:38 PM, Craig Barratt wrote: Jeffrey writes: Unless I missed a post, I don't see how there is enough data to answer your question whether it is broken or not. It's possible and perhaps even probable that you mistakenly created shares instead of excludes (which is what the end result looks like) or there could be something flakey in the GUI. On the other hand, perhaps you unmasked a GUI error. The GUI works correctly but is confusing. As you suggested, the most common user error is to enter the excludes and hit Add. But you have to first enter the share name (or *), then hit Add, and then add the excludes to that share. Craig -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ Ward... James Ward Tekco Management Group, LLC jew...@torzo.com 520-290-0190x268 ICQ: 201663408 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] 3.1.0 configuration problem
James Ward jew...@torzo.com wrote on 09/10/2009 12:08:44 PM: Yeah, I'm not sure how anyone would get that right without help. :-) It is impossible to use correctly. Unfortunately, there's two layers of information needed (share name and excluded paths), and both of them allow arbitrary numbers of options. That's difficult to pull off in a single web page. I'm sure suggestions with at least HTML mockups would be welcome! :) Fortunately, it's usually a mistake you only make once. Cumbersome, but once you've done it it makes more sense. Tim Massey -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] 3.1.0 configuration problem
Jeffrey writes: Unless I missed a post, I don't see how there is enough data to answer your question whether it is broken or not. It's possible and perhaps even probable that you mistakenly created shares instead of excludes (which is what the end result looks like) or there could be something flakey in the GUI. On the other hand, perhaps you unmasked a GUI error. The GUI works correctly but is confusing. As you suggested, the most common user error is to enter the excludes and hit Add. But you have to first enter the share name (or *), then hit Add, and then add the excludes to that share. Craig -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] 3.1.0 configuration problem
I recently converted all my BackupPC servers to 3.1.0 and even more recently configured one of them to back up 5 brand new clients. The problem is, BackupPC is not using the Override setting on BackupFilesExclude and is therefore failing trying to rsync several terabytes of Isilon network fileservers mounted on each of the 5 machines. I've reloaded the config from Admin Options. What else do I need to do to get BackupPC to exclude those network filesystems? Ward... James Ward Tekco Management Group, LLC jew...@torzo.com 520-290-0190x268 ICQ: 201663408 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] 3.1.0 configuration problem
I recently converted all my BackupPC servers to 3.1.0 and even more
recently configured one of them to back up 5 brand new clients. The
problem is, BackupPC is not using the Override setting on
BackupFilesExclude and is therefore failing trying to rsync several
terabytes of Isilon network fileservers mounted on each of the 5
machines. I've reloaded the config from Admin Options. What else do
I need to do to get BackupPC to exclude those network filesystems?
Ward... James Ward
Tekco Management Group, LLC
jew...@torzo.com
520-290-0190x268
ICQ: 201663408
All kinds of things may have gone wrong, if you've verified in the logs
that the excludes aren't being sent at all, I'd suspect something wonky in
your config files ... note that if you have $Conf{BackupFilesOnly} set
that it takes precedence over $Conf{BackupFilesExclude}, so this might be
my first guess.
If the setting appears in the individual configuration file at all, it's
overriding the main config.
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Re: [BackupPC-users] 3.1.0 configuration problem
James Ward wrote: I recently converted all my BackupPC servers to 3.1.0 and even more recently configured one of them to back up 5 brand new clients. The problem is, BackupPC is not using the Override setting on BackupFilesExclude and is therefore failing trying to rsync several terabytes of Isilon network fileservers mounted on each of the 5 machines. I've reloaded the config from Admin Options. What else do I need to do to get BackupPC to exclude those network filesystems? What I usually do is add the --one-file-system option to the rsync command and explicitly add each mount point that I want to back up. The exclude option should work though - you must have a problem with the syntax. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] 3.1.0 configuration problem
The syntax in those files was created by the GUI, are they wrong?
It sure looks like it. The GUI can be a bit inscrutable; I'd recommend
hand-editing one of your individual PC files to look like the syntax
below, then call it up in the GUI to see the difference. It looks like
the excludes are where the shares should be.
On Sep 8, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Mark Maciolek wrote:
James Ward wrote:
From the main config file (/etc/backuppc/config.pl):
$Conf{BackupFilesOnly} = {};
$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {
'/sys' = [
''
],
'/myisi' = [
''
],
'/pifisi' = [
''
],
'/vol01' = [
''
],
'/dat01' = [
''
],
'/proc' = [
''
],
'/mnt' = [
''
]
};
From one of the failing clients (/etc/backuppc/failingclient.pl):
$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {
'/pifisi' = [
''
],
'/proc' = [
''
],
'/home' = [
''
],
'/mnt' = [
''
],
'/sys' = [
''
],
'/myisi' = [
''
],
'/dat01' = [
''
],
'/vol01' = [
''
]
};
Here's evidence that the exclude override is not being sent:
This is what works on my system:
$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {
'*' = [
'/tmp',
'/net',
'/sys',
'/proc',
'/dev',
'/selinux',
'/space',
'/net'
]
};
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Re: [BackupPC-users] 3.1.0 configuration problem
Okay, that fixed it! So... the gui is broken?
On Sep 8, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Michael Stowe wrote:
The syntax in those files was created by the GUI, are they wrong?
It sure looks like it. The GUI can be a bit inscrutable; I'd
recommend
hand-editing one of your individual PC files to look like the syntax
below, then call it up in the GUI to see the difference. It looks
like
the excludes are where the shares should be.
On Sep 8, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Mark Maciolek wrote:
James Ward wrote:
From the main config file (/etc/backuppc/config.pl):
$Conf{BackupFilesOnly} = {};
$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {
'/sys' = [
''
],
'/myisi' = [
''
],
'/pifisi' = [
''
],
'/vol01' = [
''
],
'/dat01' = [
''
],
'/proc' = [
''
],
'/mnt' = [
''
]
};
From one of the failing clients (/etc/backuppc/failingclient.pl):
$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {
'/pifisi' = [
''
],
'/proc' = [
''
],
'/home' = [
''
],
'/mnt' = [
''
],
'/sys' = [
''
],
'/myisi' = [
''
],
'/dat01' = [
''
],
'/vol01' = [
''
]
};
Here's evidence that the exclude override is not being sent:
This is what works on my system:
$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {
'*' = [
'/tmp',
'/net',
'/sys',
'/proc',
'/dev',
'/selinux',
'/space',
'/net'
]
};
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Re: [BackupPC-users] 3.1.0 configuration problem
The syntax in those files was created by the GUI, are they wrong?
On Sep 8, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Mark Maciolek wrote:
James Ward wrote:
From the main config file (/etc/backuppc/config.pl):
$Conf{BackupFilesOnly} = {};
$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {
'/sys' = [
''
],
'/myisi' = [
''
],
'/pifisi' = [
''
],
'/vol01' = [
''
],
'/dat01' = [
''
],
'/proc' = [
''
],
'/mnt' = [
''
]
};
From one of the failing clients (/etc/backuppc/failingclient.pl):
$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {
'/pifisi' = [
''
],
'/proc' = [
''
],
'/home' = [
''
],
'/mnt' = [
''
],
'/sys' = [
''
],
'/myisi' = [
''
],
'/dat01' = [
''
],
'/vol01' = [
''
]
};
Here's evidence that the exclude override is not being sent:
Contents of file /var/lib/backuppc/pc/failingclient/XferLOG.bad.z,
modified 2009-09-08 08:02:59
full backup started for directory /
Running: /usr/bin/ssh -c arcfour -p 8889 -q -x -l backup
failingclient sudo /var/backups/rsyncSend --server --sender --
numeric-ids --perms --owner --group -D --links --hard-links --times
--block-size=2048 --recursive --ignore-times . /
Xfer PIDs are now 31301
Got remote protocol 29
Negotiated protocol version 28
Remote[2]: file has vanished: /pifisi/.snapshot/
nightly_2009-09-07_01-00/data/...
As you can see, /pifisi is the first exclude in the override
settings.
Any ideas?
On Sep 8, 2009, at 8:15 AM, Michael Stowe wrote:
I recently converted all my BackupPC servers to 3.1.0 and even more
recently configured one of them to back up 5 brand new clients.
The
problem is, BackupPC is not using the Override setting on
BackupFilesExclude and is therefore failing trying to rsync several
terabytes of Isilon network fileservers mounted on each of the 5
machines. I've reloaded the config from Admin Options. What
else do
I need to do to get BackupPC to exclude those network filesystems?
Ward... James Ward
Tekco Management Group, LLC
jew...@torzo.com mailto:jew...@torzo.com
520-290-0190x268
ICQ: 201663408
All kinds of things may have gone wrong, if you've verified in the
logs
that the excludes aren't being sent at all, I'd suspect something
wonky in
your config files ... note that if you have $Conf{BackupFilesOnly}
set
that it takes precedence over $Conf{BackupFilesExclude}, so this
might be
my first guess.
If the setting appears in the individual configuration file at
all, it's
overriding the main config.
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hi,
This is what works on my system:
$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {
'*' = [
'/tmp',
'/net',
'/sys',
'/proc',
'/dev',
'/selinux',
'/space',
'/net'
]
};
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Re: [BackupPC-users] 3.1.0 configuration problem
I like that idea. I will ponder that if we can't get the exclude override working for some reason. It worked fine in the older version. On Sep 8, 2009, at 8:26 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: James Ward wrote: I recently converted all my BackupPC servers to 3.1.0 and even more recently configured one of them to back up 5 brand new clients. The problem is, BackupPC is not using the Override setting on BackupFilesExclude and is therefore failing trying to rsync several terabytes of Isilon network fileservers mounted on each of the 5 machines. I've reloaded the config from Admin Options. What else do I need to do to get BackupPC to exclude those network filesystems? What I usually do is add the --one-file-system option to the rsync command and explicitly add each mount point that I want to back up. The exclude option should work though - you must have a problem with the syntax. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ Ward... James Ward Tekco Management Group, LLC jew...@torzo.com 520-290-0190x268 ICQ: 201663408 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] 3.1.0 configuration problem
James Ward wrote:
From the main config file (/etc/backuppc/config.pl):
$Conf{BackupFilesOnly} = {};
$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {
'/sys' = [
''
],
'/myisi' = [
''
],
'/pifisi' = [
''
],
'/vol01' = [
''
],
'/dat01' = [
''
],
'/proc' = [
''
],
'/mnt' = [
''
]
};
From one of the failing clients (/etc/backuppc/failingclient.pl):
$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {
'/pifisi' = [
''
],
'/proc' = [
''
],
'/home' = [
''
],
'/mnt' = [
''
],
'/sys' = [
''
],
'/myisi' = [
''
],
'/dat01' = [
''
],
'/vol01' = [
''
]
};
Here's evidence that the exclude override is not being sent:
Contents of file /var/lib/backuppc/pc/failingclient/XferLOG.bad.z,
modified 2009-09-08 08:02:59
full backup started for directory /
Running: /usr/bin/ssh -c arcfour -p 8889 -q -x -l backup failingclient sudo
/var/backups/rsyncSend --server --sender --numeric-ids --perms --owner
--group -D --links --hard-links --times --block-size=2048 --recursive
--ignore-times . /
Xfer PIDs are now 31301
Got remote protocol 29
Negotiated protocol version 28
Remote[2]: file has vanished:
/pifisi/.snapshot/nightly_2009-09-07_01-00/data/...
As you can see, /pifisi is the first exclude in the override settings.
Any ideas?
On Sep 8, 2009, at 8:15 AM, Michael Stowe wrote:
I recently converted all my BackupPC servers to 3.1.0 and even more
recently configured one of them to back up 5 brand new clients. The
problem is, BackupPC is not using the Override setting on
BackupFilesExclude and is therefore failing trying to rsync several
terabytes of Isilon network fileservers mounted on each of the 5
machines. I've reloaded the config from Admin Options. What else do
I need to do to get BackupPC to exclude those network filesystems?
Ward... James Ward
Tekco Management Group, LLC
jew...@torzo.com mailto:jew...@torzo.com
520-290-0190x268
ICQ: 201663408
All kinds of things may have gone wrong, if you've verified in the logs
that the excludes aren't being sent at all, I'd suspect something wonky in
your config files ... note that if you have $Conf{BackupFilesOnly} set
that it takes precedence over $Conf{BackupFilesExclude}, so this might be
my first guess.
If the setting appears in the individual configuration file at all, it's
overriding the main config.
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hi,
This is what works on my system:
$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {
'*' = [
'/tmp',
'/net',
'/sys',
'/proc',
'/dev',
'/selinux',
'/space',
'/net'
]
};
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Re: [BackupPC-users] 3.1.0 configuration problem
From the main config file (/etc/backuppc/config.pl):
$Conf{BackupFilesOnly} = {};
$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {
'/sys' = [
''
],
'/myisi' = [
''
],
'/pifisi' = [
''
],
'/vol01' = [
''
],
'/dat01' = [
''
],
'/proc' = [
''
],
'/mnt' = [
''
]
};
From one of the failing clients (/etc/backuppc/failingclient.pl):
$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {
'/pifisi' = [
''
],
'/proc' = [
''
],
'/home' = [
''
],
'/mnt' = [
''
],
'/sys' = [
''
],
'/myisi' = [
''
],
'/dat01' = [
''
],
'/vol01' = [
''
]
};
Here's evidence that the exclude override is not being sent:
Contents of file /var/lib/backuppc/pc/failingclient/XferLOG.bad.z,
modified 2009-09-08 08:02:59
full backup started for directory /
Running: /usr/bin/ssh -c arcfour -p 8889 -q -x -l backup failingclient
sudo /var/backups/rsyncSend --server --sender --numeric-ids --perms --
owner --group -D --links --hard-links --times --block-size=2048 --
recursive --ignore-times . /
Xfer PIDs are now 31301
Got remote protocol 29
Negotiated protocol version 28
Remote[2]: file has vanished: /pifisi/.snapshot/
nightly_2009-09-07_01-00/data/...
As you can see, /pifisi is the first exclude in the override settings.
Any ideas?
On Sep 8, 2009, at 8:15 AM, Michael Stowe wrote:
I recently converted all my BackupPC servers to 3.1.0 and even more
recently configured one of them to back up 5 brand new clients. The
problem is, BackupPC is not using the Override setting on
BackupFilesExclude and is therefore failing trying to rsync several
terabytes of Isilon network fileservers mounted on each of the 5
machines. I've reloaded the config from Admin Options. What else do
I need to do to get BackupPC to exclude those network filesystems?
Ward... James Ward
Tekco Management Group, LLC
jew...@torzo.com
520-290-0190x268
ICQ: 201663408
All kinds of things may have gone wrong, if you've verified in the
logs
that the excludes aren't being sent at all, I'd suspect something
wonky in
your config files ... note that if you have $Conf{BackupFilesOnly} set
that it takes precedence over $Conf{BackupFilesExclude}, so this
might be
my first guess.
If the setting appears in the individual configuration file at all,
it's
overriding the main config.
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Re: [BackupPC-users] 3.1.0 configuration problem
Okay, that fixed it! So... the gui is broken? Not broken, no -- if you call the configuration back up in the GUI it will work fine, and you'll be able to edit the excludes without any problems. I'd classify the GUI as difficult to understand rather than broken, since creating a share, then applying excludes to it isn't intuitive. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] 3.1.0 configuration problem
Michael Stowe wrote at about 12:58:51 -0500 on Tuesday, September 8, 2009: Okay, that fixed it! So... the gui is broken? Not broken, no -- if you call the configuration back up in the GUI it will work fine, and you'll be able to edit the excludes without any problems. I'd classify the GUI as difficult to understand rather than broken, since creating a share, then applying excludes to it isn't intuitive. Unless I missed a post, I don't see how there is enough data to answer your question whether it is broken or not. It's possible and perhaps even probable that you mistakenly created shares instead of excludes (which is what the end result looks like) or there could be something flakey in the GUI. On the other hand, perhaps you unmasked a GUI error. I would suggest trying to recreate using the GUI using the same input and sequence that you did before (while of course being mindful that you are not just making any silly mistakes). Then hopefully you will have a better idea if it was a GUI error or an operator error. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
