Re: [Bacula-users] Which OS is best for bacula ?

[Heitor Faria]

> Hello,
Hello Kern, 

> As originator of Bacula (and still the highest in the gitstats list of
> contributors), my personal vote is for Ubuntu.
We really appreciate that. A life dedication is the human greatest sacrifice. 
Thank you. 
> That said,
> I would be very happy to run Bacula on any version of Debian -- the Bacula
> packagers for Debian work closely with the Bacula project -- I would be a lot
> happier if they would learn to install it in /opt/bacula instead of spreading
> it all over the filesystem though.
This will probably never happen due to the FHS rules pointed by Sven. I even 
spoke with him about that topic in the past. 
*Maybe* with a very special agreement with the Debian Community such as the one 
they made with RedHat (I heard of, couldn't find it) to make a few things 
standard (such as the systemd services). 
> In light of the wide spread attacks of ransomware, it is even more important 
> to
> ensure that restoration of Bacula is simple and easy. There is a lot of info 
> on
> ransomeware on bacula.org.
I've ever heard or read about a Linux system affected by ransomware, only FUD. 
Ref.: 

 
Bacula is one of the top worldwide backup systems that runs on Linux. Running 
the Director and SD as the Linux bacula user is a builtin ransomware protection 
feature. IMHO bacula.org should advertise that and advise all users to only 
provide disk volumes write permissions to the bacula user. 
IMHO 2, the state-of-the-art will be when Bacula automatically set the closed 
volumes (used, full, readonly, archive, disabled) as immutable (chattr +i). 
Then, not even the root user could encrypt the disk volumes. 

> There is no need you should have to pay for a Bacula Windows client either 
> today
> or any time in the future. Bacula Systems will ensure that the community 
> Bacula
> runs on the most popular operating systems (Windows client, MacOS, FreeBSD,
> Solaris, even Oracle, ...)
Regards, 

> Best regards,
> Kern

> On 7/8/21 9:47 PM, Thing wrote:

>> Hi,

>> Which OS you choose depends on which one is best suited to your 
>> application(s),
>> I just work on that then try and make the ancillary apps fit. If Bacula does
>> not, use a different backup product.

>> Centos7 is effectively approaching end of life as Redhat kills it off to make
>> you pay, so I wouldnt suggest that OS or say Stream for this reason. Windows
>> 2012 R2 is also end of life so best to migrate that to 2019? and you might 
>> need
>> to pay for a Bacula Windows client? (you did in the past) You need to look at
>> this as as Bacula or indeed any application advances 2012 will be left 
>> behind.

>> Your problem will be what version of Bacula will work across all of these. 
>> In my
>> case I ended up with Bacula on Debian as that was the bulk of my OSes and 
>> then
>> had to port Bacula client Centos7 to a compatible version, it was a total
>> nightmare I never got a client for Mac OS to work.

>> regards

>> Steven

>> On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 17:20, Marc Ferrand < [ mailto:marcferr...@gmail.com |
>> marcferr...@gmail.com ] > wrote:

>>> If you had a choice, on which system would you install bacula and why ?
>>> These are OSes I'm familiar with in order or preference :
>>> lint Mint (20, fork of Ubuntu/Debian), CentOS 7 (free version of RHEL), 
>>> Windows
>>> 10 (Desktop), DragonFly BSD (fork of freeBSD), Windows Server 2012 R2.
>>> Any advice or suggestion is welcome, thanks in advance, Marc.
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Re: [Bacula-users] Which OS is best for bacula ?

[Sven Hartge]

On 09.07.21 14:22, Kern Sibbald wrote:

I would be a lot happier if they would learn to install it in 
/opt/bacula instead of spreading it all over the filesystem though.


Sorry, no can do, the Debian Policy clearly forbids this, the FHS has to 
be adhered to.


Grüße,
Sven.


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Re: [Bacula-users] Which OS is best for bacula ?

[Marc Ferrand]

Thanks for the advice : I chose to install Bacula (9.4.2) on Linux Mint
20.2 (fork of Ubuntu/Debian) from it's Software Manager.
Files have been installed in locate bacula|grep bin/

/usr/sbin/bacula-console

/usr/sbin/bacula-dir

/usr/sbin/bacula-fd

/usr/sbin/bacula-sd

/usr/sbin/bacula-tray-monitor
GUI works and is connecting Director but Backup NOT yet tested, I'll keep
you posted if you're interested.
I think my next step is to find how to start PostgreSQL...
Cheers, Marc.

Le ven. 9 juil. 2021 à 14:22, Kern Sibbald  a écrit :

> Hello,
>
> As originator of Bacula (and still the highest in the gitstats list of
> contributors), my personal vote is for Ubuntu.  That said,
> I would be very happy to run Bacula on any version of Debian -- the Bacula
> packagers for Debian work closely with the Bacula project -- I would be a
> lot happier if they would learn to install it in /opt/bacula instead of
> spreading it all over the filesystem though.  Note: Ubuntu also spreads the
> installation all over the place, so I do my own packaging as recommended in
> the manual.  In light of the wide spread attacks of ransomware, it is even
> more important to ensure that restoration of Bacula is simple and easy.
> There is a lot of info on ransomeware on bacula.org.
>
> There is no need you should have to pay for a Bacula Windows client either
> today or any time in the future.  Bacula Systems will ensure that the
> community Bacula runs on the most popular operating systems (Windows
> client, MacOS, FreeBSD, Solaris, even Oracle, ...)
>
> Best regards,
> Kern
>
> On 7/8/21 9:47 PM, Thing wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Which OS you choose depends on which one is best suited to your
> application(s), I just work on that then try and make the ancillary apps
> fit. If Bacula does not, use a different backup product.
>
> Centos7 is effectively approaching  end of life as Redhat kills it off to
> make you pay, so I wouldnt suggest that OS or say Stream for this reason.
>   Windows 2012 R2 is also end of life so best to migrate that to 2019? and
> you might need to pay for a Bacula Windows client? (you did in the past)
>  You need to look at this as as Bacula or indeed any application advances
> 2012 will be left behind.
>
> Your problem will be what version of Bacula will work across all of
> these.   In my case I ended up with Bacula on Debian as that was the bulk
> of my OSes and then had to port Bacula client Centos7 to a compatible
> version, it was a total nightmare I never got a client for Mac OS to work.
>
> regards
>
> Steven
>
>
>
> On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 17:20, Marc Ferrand  wrote:
>
>> If you had a choice, on which system would you install bacula and why ?
>> These are OSes I'm familiar with in order or preference :
>> lint Mint (20, fork of Ubuntu/Debian), CentOS 7 (free version of RHEL),
>> Windows 10 (Desktop), DragonFly BSD (fork of freeBSD), Windows Server 2012
>> R2.
>> Any advice or suggestion is welcome, thanks in advance, Marc.
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Re: [Bacula-users] Which OS is best for bacula ?

[Kern Sibbald]

  
  
Hello,

As originator of Bacula (and still the highest in the gitstats list
of contributors), my personal vote is for Ubuntu.  That said,
I would be very happy to run Bacula on any version of Debian -- the
Bacula packagers for Debian work closely with the Bacula project --
I would be a lot happier if they would learn to install it in
/opt/bacula instead of spreading it all over the filesystem though. 
Note: Ubuntu also spreads the installation all over the place, so I
do my own packaging as recommended in the manual.  In light of the
wide spread attacks of ransomware, it is even more important to
ensure that restoration of Bacula is simple and easy.  There is a
lot of info on ransomeware on bacula.org.

There is no need you should have to pay for a Bacula Windows client
either today or any time in the future.  Bacula Systems will ensure
that the community Bacula runs on the most popular operating systems
(Windows client, MacOS, FreeBSD, Solaris, even Oracle, ...)

Best regards,
Kern

On 7/8/21 9:47 PM, Thing wrote:


  
  Hi,


Which OS you choose depends on which one is best suited to
  your application(s), I just work on that then try and make the
  ancillary apps fit. If Bacula does not, use a different backup
  product.
  
  
  Centos7 is effectively approaching  end of life as Redhat
kills it off to make you pay, so I wouldnt suggest that OS
or say Stream for this reason.    Windows 2012 R2 is also
end of life so best to migrate that to 2019? and you might
need to pay for a Bacula Windows client? (you did in the
past)   You need to look at this as as Bacula or indeed any
application advances 2012 will be left behind. 
  
  
  Your problem will be what version of Bacula will work
across all of these.   In my case I ended up with Bacula on
Debian as that was the bulk of my OSes and then had to port
Bacula client Centos7 to a compatible version, it was a
total nightmare I never got a client for Mac OS to work.  
  
  
  regards
  
  
  Steven
  
  
  
  

  
  
  
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 17:20,
  Marc Ferrand  wrote:


  If you had a choice, on which system would you
install bacula and why ?
These are OSes I'm familiar with in order or preference
  :
lint Mint (20, fork of Ubuntu/Debian), CentOS 7 (free
  version of RHEL), Windows 10 (Desktop), DragonFly BSD
  (fork of freeBSD), Windows Server 2012 R2.
Any advice or suggestion is welcome, thanks in advance,
  Marc.
  
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