On Friday 26 August 2005 00:22, Ludovic Strappazon wrote:
Hi,
I agree with Arno.
There's also something wich hurts me : a small company with ~ 2 servers
and 10 workstation would pay 100 $, and a General Electric, for example,
would pay only 500 $ ! Well, 100 $ is given compared to
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Pal Dorogi wrote:
From my experience, and I'm sure someone's already said this... the best
was to get money, at least where I work, is to consider the money a support
contract. My superiors like running software without a support contract
even less than they like paying
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Kern Sibbald wrote:
I agree with this, but who is going to provide the support.
Paying $500/year for development support would be easily justifiable, with
support charges ramping up for those who actually need handholding, via an
external contractor
I'm sure there are
I'd also point out that this is the route that OpenAFS took. It seems to
scale pretty well, with one or two commercial providers contributing funds
and development hardware from support contract revenue. OpenAFS created a
foundation to manage the contributions and hardware, thus providing an
I would like any such companies to step forward, because the
idea here for Bacula is not to make money, but to cover out
of pocket costs of development.
I'm up for it.
If a foundation controls the actual Bacula code ownership, it's fairly
simple to have support providers contribute a
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 16:56, Alan Brown wrote:
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Kern Sibbald wrote:
I agree with this, but who is going to provide the support.
Paying $500/year for development support would be easily justifiable, with
support charges ramping up for those who actually need
Hi,
From my experience, and I'm sure someone's already said this... the
best was to get money, at least where I work, is to consider the money a
support contract. My superiors like running software without a support
contract even less than they like paying for things. ;)
I will stand in
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005, Kern Sibbald wrote:
[...]
If you want to read about my idea, please visit:
http://www.bacula.org/OpenSourceFunding.html Your comments are welcome.
Hi.
Can you say with few words what the consequences of this are for
(free) packaging projects like Debian, BSD ports,
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 16:42, Alan Brown wrote:
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Pal Dorogi wrote:
From my experience, and I'm sure someone's already said this... the best
was to get money, at least where I work, is to consider the money a
support contract. My superiors like running software
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 16:41, Matthias Kurz wrote:
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005, Kern Sibbald wrote:
[...]
If you want to read about my idea, please visit:
http://www.bacula.org/OpenSourceFunding.html Your comments are welcome.
Hi.
Can you say with few words what the consequences of this
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 17:08 +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote:
I would like any such companies to step forward, because the idea here for
Bacula is not to make money, but to cover out of pocket costs of development.
If others can make some money and at the same time help the project, so be
it. I
What my superiors generally mean for software support is that if the
product is broken, there will be some assurance that it will be fixed
and allow us to do business. From what I understand, this already takes
place fairly regularly -- if you report a bug, chances are it will get
fixed (I see
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005, Kern Sibbald wrote:
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 16:41, Matthias Kurz wrote:
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005, Kern Sibbald wrote:
[...]
If you want to read about my idea, please visit:
http://www.bacula.org/OpenSourceFunding.html Your comments are welcome.
Hi.
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 17:31, Matthias Kurz wrote:
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005, Kern Sibbald wrote:
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 16:41, Matthias Kurz wrote:
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005, Kern Sibbald wrote:
[...]
If you want to read about my idea, please visit:
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 17:40, David Boyes wrote:
I would like any such companies to step forward, because the
idea here for Bacula is not to make money, but to cover out
of pocket costs of development.
I'm up for it.
Could you explain in more detail what you feel you could do?
If
Hi,
Kern Sibbald wrote:
2. Bacula Foundation
3. Bacula Funding Idea
http://www.bacula.org/OpenSourceFunding.html Your comments are welcome.
The ongoing discussion is interesting, but I thought of something a
little different after reading your document.
I'm not thinking about the
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 18:12 +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote:
Yes, but none of those organizations or any other packager uses our source
rpm. Also, please note very carefully the word probably in the above
sentence -- that means, I am unsure about what I am saying or undecided.
Ok, but somebody
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 19:12, Arno Lehmann wrote:
Hi,
Kern Sibbald wrote:
2. Bacula Foundation
3. Bacula Funding Idea
http://www.bacula.org/OpenSourceFunding.html Your comments are welcome.
The ongoing discussion is interesting, but I thought of something a
little different
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 19:53, Jesse Keating wrote:
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 18:12 +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote:
Yes, but none of those organizations or any other packager uses our
source rpm. Also, please note very carefully the word probably in the
above sentence -- that means, I am
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 20:53 +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote:
Yes, anyone can create anything from the source.
Ok, cool.
I'm not sure about the requirements for Fedora Extras and CentOS
Extras.
Yeah, wasn't questioning that, I'm somewhat familiar w/ them.
I'm not trying to restrict anyone any
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 21:18, Jesse Keating wrote:
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 20:53 +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote:
Yes, anyone can create anything from the source.
Ok, cool.
I'm not sure about the requirements for Fedora Extras and CentOS
Extras.
Yeah, wasn't questioning that, I'm somewhat
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 22:05 +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote:
That would be nice.
however my time is pretty taken up with Legacy and with a book Im
writing,
so we'll see (:
If I can't get to it myself, I'll toss it up there for somebody else who
wants to help out.
Good luck with your book.
Hello David,
On Monday 22 August 2005 22:24, you wrote:
2. I've looked into the idea of creating a Bacula Foundation,
and if done here in Switzerland where I live, it will cost
about $2000-3000 to create and $2000-3000 per year for
administrative fees (accounting, audit, ...) to run.
At
Hello,
nice to see see you all busy again :-)
After my vacation, I already upgraded to 1.37.36 to continue testing.
And I even skimmed the heap of list mail.
Kern Sibbald wrote:
Hello,
...
2. I've looked into the idea of creating a Bacula Foundation, and if done here
in Switzerland where
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 10:51, Arno Lehmann wrote:
Hello,
nice to see see you all busy again :-)
After my vacation, I already upgraded to 1.37.36 to continue testing.
And I even skimmed the heap of list mail.
Kern Sibbald wrote:
Hello,
...
2. I've looked into the idea of creating
From my experience, and I'm sure someone's already said this... the
best was to get money, at least where I work, is to consider the money a
support contract. My superiors like running software without a support
contract even less than they like paying for things. ;)
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