Dear Brent,
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> First, I would like to make a few corrections to commonly-mispronounced
words in the Baha'i Writings:
>
> "slough of heedlessness" is pronounced "slew" of heedlessness, not
"sluff".
>
> "Perspicuous" rhymes with "conspicuous" not with "auspicious".
>
> "draught" of the soft-
Patti,
At 06:16 PM 5/24/2004, you wrote:
>>In placing the work in the fiction category, one probably has a bit of skepticism
>>regarding people speaking from the next world (and I usually do--although speaking
>>as a scientist I have had inexplicable things happenn me-- so sometimes I have to
> Jonah's site places _Private Dowding_ under the fiction category. However,
I am not sure that Tudor Pole regarded it as such. He had a strong interest
in spiritism (spiritualism).
>
Hi Mark,
You are correct, I was using Jonah's classification. When I first read it
(it's been a while) I think
At 2:31 PM -0400 5/24/04, Susan Maneck wrote:
>> "slough of heedlessness" is pronounced "slew" of heedlessness, not
>"sluff".
>
>Dear Brent,
>
>That is a variant pronounciation. slawf is correct as well.
>
The ponunciations "sluff", "sloo" and "slou" are three different words.
Slough pronounced as
> "slough of heedlessness" is pronounced "slew" of heedlessness, not
"sluff".
Dear Brent,
That is a variant pronounciation. slawf is correct as well.
> "draught" of the soft-flowing waters of Thy knowledge is pronounced
"draft" not rhyming with "naught".
That one you caught me on.
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The story from the side of Haifa is told by Major Tudor-Pole, V.C.
"It must have been in the early spring of 1918 that I began to feel acute
anxiety for 'Abdu'l-Baha's safety at Haifa, and that of His family and
followers there. I came out of the line in December 1917 during the attack
on Jerusal
It is also my understanding that the Azalis broke the Covenant of the Bab, not the
Covenant of Baha'u'llah.
There is a passage in one of Mr. Taherzadeh's books, which I cannot locate right now,
where the Master said that in the future there would be a remnant of Azal's following,
but there wou
Susan,
At 10:16 AM 5/24/2004, you wrote:
>>But we are expected to avoid their followers as well under most circumstances.<<
Yes. I remember a particular situation where that issue came up.
Mark A. Foster * http://markfoster.net
"Sacred cows make the best hamburger"
-- Mark Twain and Abbie Hoff
First, I would like to make a few corrections to commonly-mispronounced words in the
Baha'i Writings:
"slough of heedlessness" is pronounced "slew" of heedlessness, not "sluff".
"Perspicuous" rhymes with "conspicuous" not with "auspicious".
"draught" of the soft-flowing waters of Thy knowledge
James,
At 09:44 AM 5/24/2004, you wrote:
>>I have also seen several letter from the Guardian to, I think, "W. T. Pole".<<
Same fellow. For a while, he played a similar role in Britain, as the distributor of
`Abdu'l-Baha's letters, to the Kinney's in the U.S. (New Jersey).
Mark A. Foster * http:
> I doubt the issue comes up very often. If it does, then the House may make
a ruling. Mostly, however, I was making a technical distinction between
Covenant-breakers and their supporters.
Dear Mark,
Yes, there is that distinction. But we are expected to avoid their followers
as well under most c
Susan,
At 09:08 AM 5/24/2004, you wrote:
>>As I indicated, ultimately it is up to the House to decide who should be regarded as
>>a Covenant breaker. I don't know if there has been anything said since the Guardian
>>urged us to avoid Azalis.<<
I doubt the issue comes up very often. If it does,
In a message dated 5/24/2004 12:03:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Azalis, if I understand it correctly, broke the Bab's covenant, not
Baha'u'llah's, since they never pledged their allegience to Baha'u'llah.
Dear Christian,
What complicates the picture here is that the
Azalis, if I understand it correctly, broke the Bab's covenant, not
Baha'u'llah's, since they never pledged their allegience to Baha'u'llah.
How can you be said to have broken an agreement to which you were never
a party? It would be like saying that I'm a renegade Mormon. I've
never associat
> Over the course of Babi/Baha'i history, I tho't that "Azali" more
> specifically indicated a person who accepted Mirza Yahya as Him Whom God
> Will Make Manifest.
Dear Don,
I don't think Azali was ever a term by which the followers of Mirza Yahya
referred to themselves. It is a term Baha'is use
In a message dated 5/24/2004 10:45:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Clarification, please, from some of you knowledgeable historians.I read Tutor Pole's story. I have also seen several letter from the Guardian to, I think, "W. T. Pole". Are these the same people. If I
> If, so, don't you think, at this point, it might be more accurate to call
them external enemies?
Dear Mark,
As I indicated, ultimately it is up to the House to decide who should be
regarded as a Covenant breaker. I don't know if there has been anything said
since the Guardian urged us to avoid
There is an interesting fictional story about the afterlife written by
>Captain Tudor Pole. It's a bit hard to determine where Baha'i ideas begin
>and end in the book, but I believe there is more than just on pages 45-46 of
>the book as mentioned in the link below. Captain Pole, while not a
At 9:12 AM -0400 5/24/04, Susan Maneck wrote:
>
>Azalis, by definition are followers of Mirza Yahya. I don't know if they are
>the only Babis who call themselves Bayanis. Right now it appears that their
>hostility against Baha'u'llah is still pretty strong. But of course, I'm
>mostly judging from t
Susan,
At 08:12 AM 5/24/2004, you wrote:
>>Right now it appears that their hostility against Baha'u'llah is still pretty
>>strong.<<
If, so, don't you think, at this point, it might be more accurate to call them
external enemies?
Mark A. Foster * http://markfoster.net
"Sacred cows make the be
> >>I don't know I agree. So you're saying Azali's who have never heard of
Baha'u'llah wouldn't classify as Covenant-breakers?<<
Dear Mark,
I didn't write the above.
>
> I would suggest that Azalis (Bayanis) not among the followers of Mirza
Yahya who rejected Baha'u'llah would not be Covenant-b
Susan,
At 02:05 AM 5/24/2004, you wrote:
>>I don't know I agree. So you're saying Azali's who have never heard of Baha'u'llah
>>wouldn't classify as Covenant-breakers?<<
I would suggest that Azalis (Bayanis) not among the followers of Mirza Yahya who
rejected Baha'u'llah would not be Covenant
Hi, Patti,
At 01:37 AM 5/24/2004, you wrote:
>>There is an interesting fictional story about the afterlife written by Captain Tudor
>>Pole.<<
Jonah's site places _Private Dowding_ under the fiction category. However, I am not
sure that Tudor Pole regarded it as such. He had a strong interest i
> I don't know I agree. So you're saying Azali's who have never heard of
> Baha'u'llah wouldn't classify as Covenant-breakers?
Dear David,
That is *highly* unlikely. Anti-Baha'i propaganda is too much a part of
their group.
warmest, Susan
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You
Dear Dean,
> According to Baha'i belief, though, this woman apparently became a
> Covenant-breaker and got a spiritual disease on her acceptance of the
Bab
> and becoming a Babi.
The woman could not possibly be a Covenant-breaker if she had never heard
of
Baha'u'llah. After all, it's Baha'u'lla
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