Many thanks Kazeh! The scholar who used the two terms with reference to the
Bab's utterance Verily, Verily I am God; There is no God but Him it seems
to me, has been most reverently precise and helpful.
Richard.
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gilberto,
i don;t think they are stupid or silly.
ur point seems to be, if i am getting it, is that religion is somehow different
from other social sets.
i have difficulty seeing how.
matters of beleif ...sure... verry grey area.
if freind x tells me they have many ideas similar to those
On 9/9/05, firestorm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
gilberto,
i don;t think they are stupid or silly.
ur point seems to be, if i am getting it, is that religion is somehow
different from other social sets.
No, the point is that many social sets (including religion) are very
different from
You always have choices, Mark. Your's has been to define yourself as
an academic and to toe that line. Yhat's ok, but be honest with
yourself, you have chosen. Ian Semple, in a talk on obedience, discussed
the collaborater who says he had no choice but to betray others, or he
would have been
I believe the responses on this list should reflect a
Baha'i perspective first as its purpose is to explore the Faith, not
academias view of the Faith.
Dear Rich,
That is not the case. The purpose of this list is for academics and
non-academics to examine the Baha'i Faith from an academic
Hi, folks,
I just received this email. eScribe is apparently not dead It is not entirely
clear from the below when it will be back online - but perhaps by tomomrrow:
Dead power supply, second one not powerful enough, buying biggest I can find
tonight. I'm the last surviving volunteer on the
All,
Below are a few other verses ofthe New Testament that directly mention "the Glory of God". Since therevised versions of the Arabic Bible are readily available on the internet, I did verify that theycurrently use the wordMajd'u'llah. I assume the 1933 versions of the Bible used
On 9/4/05, Brent Poirier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let's think through the question of whether Baha'u'llah chose His Name
because it was mentioned in the Revelation of John explicitly.
He assumed this name when He lived in Iraq; or was He still living in Iran?
Both countries 90% Muslim.
Awell organized website that reviews factors that make the Baha'i Faith the fulfillment of Islam's mission, and defines purpose of the Seal of the Prophets, the Prophet Muhammad. See http://bci.org/islam-bahai/
* Promise #1. Islam's Goal:
"This day have I perfected for you your religion
--[Why did Mirza Husayn-Ali Nuri use the title "Baha'u'llah"?]There are about two billion Christians in the world.There are over a billion Muslims. I'm NOT trying to accuse anyone ofthe Bahai figures of being cynical or dishonest but if I were going tomake a popular world religion I
Mark A. Foster wrote:
Rich,
At 05:02 PM 9/5/2005, you wrote:
We're not sociologists, we're Baha'is and we go by the Baha'i definitions of Covenent Breakers and their followers.
Not everyone on this list is a Baha'i. This is also not a "Baha'i" list. It
Mark A. Foster wrote:
I define myself differently in different contexts. Why are you being so judgmental? I don't recall you ever having expressed yourself in this way.
I guess I don't. When I'm treating patients, I'm a Baha'i.
Ian Semple, in a talk on
Susan Maneck wrote:
I guess from a Baha'i perspective we wouldn't see this as splinter
Baha'i groups, because from our point of view they stopped being Baha'is
at the moment they broke off from any point of the administrative order.
Dear Rich,
I'm not sure that is true. In recent years the
On 9/9/05, Rich Ater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My point was that the Gilberto made a statement about how Baha'is react
to or regard covenant breakers. While I can respect your methodology, I
think in the case given I think it muddied the picture rather than making it
clearer.
I don't
Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 9/9/05, Rich Ater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My point was that the Gilberto made a statement about how Baha'is react
to or regard covenant breakers. While I can respect your methodology, I
think in the case given I think it muddied the picture
Rich Ater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rich,
Could you wrap your text? Your posts have become very hard to read since they have LOOONG lines of text, way tooo long.
Thanks, Scott
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Rich Ater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Susan Maneck wrote:"I guess from a Baha'i perspective we wouldn't see this as splinterBaha'i groups, because from our point of view they stopped being Baha'isat the moment they broke off from any point of the administrative order."Dear Rich,I'm not sure that is
I'm not sure that is true. In recent years the Universal House of Justicehas chosen to remove some people from the rolls rather than declare themCovenant breakers. The rationale was that they had determined they weren'treally Baha'is and thus bound by the Covennat.warmest, Susan Susan,But
Another message from Scott at eScribe:
I can almost promise you it will be back. I depend on it for my own mailing
lists too. Just a matter of time. I'm just hoping it doesn't require a brand
new server, but even that won't stop it.
Thanks for the support!
Via moderna, Mark A. Foster .
Dear Mark,
If it does come back, I wonder if there isn't some way to do a back up, so we don't lose the archives if it ever goes down again?
warmest, Susan -Original Message-From: Mark A. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.eduSent: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 21:54:39
" Non Baha'is on the list, at least to me, seem to be asking for Baha'i responses not academic responses. While I believe that scholarship can indeed help the Faith, it's job is to help us understand the teachings, not relace them."
Dear Rich,
There are other lists such as
Rich,
At 08:03 PM 9/9/2005, you wrote:
My point was that the Gilberto made a statement about how Baha'is react to or
regard covenant breakers. While I can respect your methodology, I think in
the case given I think it muddied the picture rather than making it clearer.
It is clear that Baha'is,
Rich,
At 08:11 PM 9/9/2005, you wrote:
I guess I don't. When I'm treating patients, I'm a Baha'i.
I am always a Baha'i, always a sociologist, and always an individual. I have no
problem simultaneously seeing an issue from various perspectives associated
with each of these statuses.
Only in
Susan,
At 09:59 PM 9/9/2005, you wrote:
If it does come back, I wonder if there isn't some way to do a back up, so we
don't lose the archives if it ever goes down again?
Unfortunately, they say on the site *not* to do that. Obviously, they are
concerned about the strain on the server.
Via
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