Re: Religion and Women

2010-11-04 Thread Sen Sonja
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On 4 Nov 2010 at 8:57, Naison Jones wrote: since perfection in two unequal parts comes through relative strengths in their most suitable roles then true equality comes through apparent inequality or distribution of roles. When you say such things, it appears to

Re: Religion and Women

2010-11-04 Thread Naison Jones
The Baha'i Studies Listserv They are equal in one sense. ie their value is the same they are both human beings. In another sense they are not equal. I have probably ranted too much though. __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as:

Re: Religion and Women

2010-11-04 Thread Gilberto Simpson
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I think putting it that way makes sense. In mathematical contexts I'm used to equal meaning the same in every way. So in other contexts, especially if you are dealing with controversial subjects (e.g. religion, politics) it is usually helpful to acknowledge that what

Re: Religion and Women

2010-11-04 Thread Stephen Gray
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The foucs on gender is what's sexist, both traditional and oppositional. Feminists would rather have us see individuals who are male and individuals who are female rather than men and women. Each individual in the world is equal. They are the same in potentials and

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2010-11-04 Thread Stephen Gray
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Not to get that much off topic, but several feminists have been critics of marriage as intrisically unequal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_marriage Gender inequality [edit] Feminists Some feminists seek the end of formal marriage - The institution of

Seven Dimensions of Religion

2010-11-04 Thread Stephen Gray
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Exeriential, Mythic, Doctrinal, Ethical, Ritual, Social, and Material. I got these out of my testbook on the study of world religions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups Judaism Experiential-knowing God through Kabbalah, Jeremiah's call to be a

Re: Religion and Women

2010-11-04 Thread Stephen Gray
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The foucs on gender is what's sexist, both traditional and oppositional. Feminists would rather have us see individuals who are male and individuals who are female rather than men and women. Each individual in the world is equal. They are the same in potentials and

Re: Religion and Women

2010-11-04 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Feminists would rather have us see individuals who are male and individuals who are female rather than men and women. And there is a difference between being male and men or being female or women? Each individual in the world is equal. They are the same in

Re: Religion and Women

2010-11-04 Thread Tim Nolan
The Baha'i Studies Listserv And there is a difference between being male and men or being female or women? To my mind, yes there is a difference.  I would use male and female to refer to horses or dogs or plants.  I would use man or woman to refer to  human beings.  Tim All good art is about

Re: Religion and Women

2010-11-04 Thread Matt Haase
The Baha'i Studies Listserv There are obvious physiological differences between male and female, but I would be cautious to set up definite, unchanging laws that dictate the sexes behaviors. Statements like this is what a man does, this is what a woman does, make me cringe, because we are all

Re: Religion and Women

2010-11-04 Thread Stephen Gray
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Different schools of psychology have different opinions: Freudian, Jungian, Behavoirist, Culturalist, Enviromentalist, Existential-Humanist. Social constructionists say thoses psychological differences are from the way we treat babies different based on gender. They

Re: Seven Dimensions of Religion

2010-11-04 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Chris Buck likes to play with these kinds of categories. I'll let him answer. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Stephen Gray skg_z...@yahoo.com wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv Exeriential, Mythic, Doctrinal, Ethical, Ritual, Social, and Material. I got these out

Re: Religion and Women

2010-11-04 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv And there is a difference between being male and men or being female or women? To my mind, yes there is a difference.  I would use male and female to refer to horses or dogs or plants.  I would use man or woman to refer to  human beings. Yes, and males and females

Re: Religion and Women

2010-11-04 Thread Gilberto Simpson
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv Feminists would rather have us see individuals who are male and individuals who are female rather than men and women. And there is a difference between being male and

Commentary on the House of Justice

2010-11-04 Thread Brent Poirier
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear friends: I have posted an article about the divine guidance flowing to the House of Justice during the enactment of legislation, and addressing the passage from Shoghi Effendi's Dispensation letter in which he speaks of the role of the Guardian in the process