Re: Shouldn't he have known?

2009-04-07 Thread Albert
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The benefit of hindsight? David Friedman wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv Here's part of an article from Baha'i Library about whether the Guardianship is anticipated in the Aqdas: Although there is no explicit reference to the Guardianship in the "Kitab-i-Aqda

Re: Shouldn't he have known?

2009-04-07 Thread Albert
The Baha'i Studies Listserv God Passes By written in 1940. Published 1945 David Friedman wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv Here's part of an article from Baha'i Library about whether the Guardianship is anticipated in the Aqdas: Although there is no explicit reference to the Guardianship

Re: Heaven

2008-10-02 Thread Albert
lieve with certitude in His signs. These two groups sail upon two seas: the sea of affirmation and the sea of negation. (The Bab, Selections from the Writings of the Bab, p. 146) Heaven and Hell are references to those with the ability to affirm or reject the Manifestation of God. Regards, Alber

Re: Shoghi Effendi quote?

2008-10-01 Thread Albert
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The question is 'would anyone write on behalf of the Guardian without him approving it'. I don't think so. Thus it is a mute point who wrote it. Regards, Albert Verbrugh Don Calkins wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv In the compilation

Re: Shoghi Effendi quote?

2008-09-11 Thread Albert
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I Have no answer to your question. Why does it matter who wrote what if his seal is on the message so to speak? Best regards, Albert Verbrugh 'Not everything that a man knoweth can be disclose

Re: 'Abdul-Baha teaching how to pray

2008-04-20 Thread Albert Verbrugh
Tim Nolan wrote: Have you looked in Portals to Freedom? Tim Portals to freedom is in Ocean The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") and is intended to be confidential and for the use of

Re: UN Adopts Historic Statement on Native Rights

2007-09-25 Thread Albert Verbrugh
Thank you so much Sandra, I really needed that quotation. Regards, Albert Verbrugh The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") and is intended to be confidential and for

Re: UN Adopts Historic Statement on Native Rights

2007-09-19 Thread Albert Verbrugh
Albert, How do you defien "indigenous peoples"? People whose ancestors inhabited a place or country when persons from another culture or ethnic background arrived on the scene and dominated them through conquest, settlement, or other means and who today live more in conformity with

Re: UN Adopts Historic Statement on Native Rights

2007-09-19 Thread Albert Verbrugh
ight I suggest you sent your pennies to the present landholder who has been maintaining it since your birth. Regards, Albert The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") and

Re: UN Adopts Historic Statement on Native Rights

2007-09-19 Thread Albert Verbrugh
ave the satisfaction they are recognized in International Law as having "Rights". It only took 300 years. Ursus Maximus wrote: I do not understand what is significant about this. Reading the extract you quote, Albert, it says that indigenous people (which is an undefined term, where I

Re: UN Adopts Historic Statement on Native Rights

2007-09-19 Thread Albert Verbrugh
ralia, New Zealand and the United States is surprising. Be as it may the UN has enshrined in its Constitution that Indigenous peoples Rights "are" Human rights. Albert "The fundamental principle of the oneness of mankind, and the aim of the Faith to promote unity in diver

Re: UN Adopts Historic Statement on Native Rights

2007-09-19 Thread Albert Verbrugh
list masters t Bahai_Community rejected the article because they could not see how it related to the Baha'i faith. Regards, Albert Richard H. Gravelly wrote: That is an enormous step for the world to take. Congratulations! The fresh green shoots in the garden that the earth will become are

UN Adopts Historic Statement on Native Rights

2007-09-19 Thread Albert Verbrugh
Thu Sep 13, 10:05 PM ET UNITED NATIONS, Sep 13 (OneWorld) - Despite strong objections from the United States and some of its allies, the UN General Assembly adopted a resolution Thursday calling for the recognition of the world's 370 million indigenous peoples' right to self-determination and

Re: Short Obligatory Prayer

2007-04-27 Thread Albert
Rich Ater wrote: Larry Marquardt wrote: Dear Friends, In regards to the Short Obligatory prayer, I bear witness O my God... Can anyone offer their understanding why the invocation 'O My God' is written at the beginning of the Short Obligatory prayer in Arabic but is written after 'I bear wi

Re: Participation of non-Baha'is in core activities

2007-02-13 Thread Albert
David Friedman wrote: Just wondering, are non-Baha'is allowed to be Ruhi tutors and be youth animators? Regards, David A daft question, David. Albert The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community

Re: Passing of our brother Phil Lucas

2007-02-05 Thread Albert
Brent Poirier Attorney at Law wrote: I have learned that following triple bypass surgery, Phil Lucas died earlier today. God reward him for his services. Brent Oh, my God, The memories are flooding back. Albert. The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (&q

Re: Status of Promulgation

2007-01-24 Thread Albert
ture. This does not mean that the unauthenticated talks will have to cease to be used -- merely that the degree of authenticity of every document will have to be known and understood. (23 March 1987)" Memo from the Research Department quoting a letter written on behalf of the House http://ba

Re: The Baha'i Writings say...

2007-01-23 Thread Albert
Loïc ROYER wrote: What I understood (I read it in the "Kitab-i-Hearsay"!) is that we, bahai people, have been deeply invited to make our own searchs and discovers about God... Developping this knowledge takes a lot of time and energy, so we all first believe what we learn from others, but we s

Re: "scientific in its method"

2007-01-18 Thread Albert
Richard H. Gravelly wrote: *Perhaps logic is the essence. Unfortunately, logic can take one into error.* ** *"Therefore, it is evident that the method of reason is not perfect, for the differences of the ancient philosophers, the want of stability and the variations of their opinions, prove

Re: The Baha'i Writings say...

2007-01-15 Thread Albert
ucceed in establishing it." (June 1933, from a letter written by Shoghi Effendi to the High Commissioner for Palestine) (The Universal House of Justice,1997 Aug 13, Science and Religion, p. 2) Here is a source you might except Prema. Regards, Albert Prema wrote: This reminds me of a joke w

Re: Sale of cigarettes

2006-10-13 Thread Albert
o attract your minds, and cleanse your souls, and console your eyes." (Abdu'l-Baha, Selections from the Writings of Abdu'l-Baha, p. 186) Albert The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community Colleg

Re: Spirituality

2006-10-06 Thread Albert
r education, creating the UN. A reaction to the horrors of WWII. Our generation has its virtues, but so do the others. Ours just fit like an old sweater and seem more comfortable to us. I was a teenager in the early sixties. Albert Brent The information contained in this e-mail a

Re: Interesting article on Evangelical Teens

2006-10-05 Thread Albert
One can only hope those teenagers are looking for what we were looking for 4 decades ago. Meaning! Genuine spirituality. A sense of the mystic. None of which is really to be found in the world our generation has build. Albert Dick Detweiler wrote: In the NY Times: http://tinyurl.com/pn5nj

The Most challanging Issue

2006-09-08 Thread Albert
all-too- familiar blights of century's end. The task of freeing humanity from an error so fundamental and pervasive will call into question some of the twentieth century's most deeply entrenched assumptions about right and wrong." (Who is Writing the Future) Shall we

Re: Why 'Abdu'l-Baha doesn't qualify to be a Prophet

2006-08-04 Thread Albert
Selected Letters", p. 134) (Compilations, The Compilation of Compilations vol. I, p. 117) This is Shoghi Effendi's interpretation ". . . while it does not by any means justify us to assign to Him the station of Prophethood. . ." For a Baha'i the matter largely ends h

Re: Is there self examination in Islamic societies

2006-07-28 Thread Albert
Albert wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Albert, If you follow Al-Jazeera you will find there is plenty of self- criticism in the Arabic world. warmest, Susan References? Regards, Albert And here is an other one. http://tinyurl.com/r4xqs Regards, Albert The information

Re: Is there self examination in Islamic societies

2006-07-24 Thread Albert
Ian Kluge wrote: RE "The Trouble With Islam Today" by Irshad Manji, recommended by Albert: I also highly recommend this book. Manji asks the tough, unavoidable questions that need to be dealt with both within contemporary Islam and outside of it. Her advantage is that she is a

Re: Lincoln's Statement

2006-07-23 Thread Albert
fa. We have shrines. Why would Mr. Lincoln refer to the "temple"? "Hizbullah would think it pretty neat if they destroyed our temple," said Albert Lincoln, secretary-general of the Baha'i International Community in Haifa, said Thursday. http://tinyurl.com/zxgdm

Re: Is there self examination in Islamic societies

2006-07-23 Thread Albert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Albert, If you follow Al-Jazeera you will find there is plenty of self- criticism in the Arabic world. warmest, Susan References? Regards, Albert The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by t

Grave peril

2006-07-22 Thread Albert
and one this is a comprehensive statement. I would feel much more hopeful about the immediate future of the world than the disaster shadowing our immediate future. Albert The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson Co

Is there self examination in Islamic societies

2006-07-22 Thread Albert
why Baha’is and Moslems on this News group did not tackle this issue, although our Moslem friends are quick to point out to us the superiority of Islam as a force of Justice in the world. Albert. "The Trouble with Islam Today is an open letter from me, a Muslim voice of reform, to conc

Re: Lincoln's Statement

2006-07-21 Thread Albert
Dean Betts wrote: The Baha'is do not have a temple in Haifa. We have shrines. Why would Mr. Lincoln refer to the "temple"? In Israel that is how they refer to the Baha'i shrines. Mr Lincoln was just using the language they are familiar with. Wise man that Mr. Alb

Re: Unity and Truth

2006-07-19 Thread Albert
For one to entertain the Manifestation of God to make errors must somehow believe their knowledge supersedes Theirs. If you think that I would be worried about about your ego. Albert Scott Saylors wrote: We've gone over Hikmat before. What the Manifestations do is what God instructs

Re: Unhelpful response from UHJ

2006-06-04 Thread Albert
life. Than you leave your hart in Haifa and the longing never goes away. Regards, Albert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Six days a week with 1 or 2 long weekends a year as I recall. It was a big adjustment for me. Dear Albert, I didn't know you used to work at the World Centre. warmest,

Re: Unhelpful response from UHJ

2006-06-04 Thread Albert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear David: If you had any idea how hard the friends who serve in Haifa work, Warm regards, Shirley Macias Six days a week with 1 or 2 long weekends a year as I recall. It was a big adjustment for me. Regards, Albert The information contained in this e

Out of the Domai of the Sun.

2006-05-24 Thread Albert
mething like 40,000 years." Sure makes me feel small. Albert The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the indivi

Re: Unhelpful response from UHJ

2006-05-24 Thread Albert
David Friedman wrote: A while ago on this list I asked about the requirements for looking for a marriage partner, since what I had seen in translated passages was slim. I recently wrote to the House asking for further information. I was disappointed that I didn't receive the response I was ho

Re: question about Islam

2006-05-07 Thread Albert
said before. A believer is a lover. Not being able to recognize the language of love is a proof of no longer being a lover."Be thou assured in thyself that verily, he who turns away from this Beauty hath also turned away from the Messengers of the past and showeth pride towards god from all

Re: Science and Religion

2006-04-13 Thread Albert
upon them, and should anyone deviate therefrom, even to the extent of a hair's breadth, his work would be brought to naught." [1 cf. Qur'án 21:23.] (Baha'u'llah, Tablets of Baha'u'llah, p. 108) Albert The information contained in this e-mail and any att

Re: Science and Religion

2006-04-12 Thread Albert
, Albert The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected b

Re: Baha'i double standards re: science and religion - ?

2006-04-09 Thread Albert
if" not in evidence, and all conclusions will be likely to be faulty. O yea, evidence. the kind you're not supplying. Albert The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College (&q

Re: Science and Religion

2006-04-08 Thread Albert
ake a factual mistake; and no amount of evvidence will ever change such a person's mind. Name a Baha'i, even one would do. But, though such beliefs be held by those of highest rank, they are still wrong and ultimately lead to most gievous kind asof mischief. I think reckless, in

Re: Baha'i double standards re: science and religion - ?

2006-03-29 Thread Albert
seeking and not those who have claimed to have found Him. There will be a judgement day for all of us where we may try to answer the question what we did to further His Cause in the spirit of its Central Theme. Regards, Albert The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments t

Re: Baha'i double standards re: science and religion - ?

2006-03-28 Thread Albert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "It (still) is a sign of a dynamic field of inquiry." In other words it's still in the gelatin stage. Dear Albert, You're missing both the point of this article and misundersanding the very nature of mdoern science which is *always* dyna

Re: Baha'i double standards re: science and religion - ?

2006-03-27 Thread Albert
eak of a "standard" is a might premature, in the physical realm. So we are talking about a whole lot of suppositions which have yet to be scientifically proven. Albert The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Joh