RE: Gay Marriage

2004-02-10 Thread Max Jasper
Dear friends, Some comments on the following article is appreciated very much: Selling Homosexuality to America http://www.regent.edu/acad/schlaw/lawreview/articles/14_2Rondeau.PDF Regards, Max. __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:

RE: Teaching: 200 year priority

2004-03-06 Thread Max Jasper
Teaching the Cause of God for the Next 200 Years: http://www3.telus.net/studycircle/Teaching_Next_200_Years.emf __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i

RE: Baha'i Burial

2004-03-17 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message It appears that early believers also were not clear on this matter and repeated their question to Baha'u'llah, and His answer never changed: "use of five cloths", or "use of one cloth" when a person is devoid of means. As Baha'u'llah has stressed on this short answer itself i

Supreme Tribunal: How Did BahÃ'u'llÃh Establish It?

2004-05-14 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message Dear Scholars,   In His tablet to the Hague, Abdu'l-Baha wrote about BahÃ'u'llÃh's establishing the Supreme Tribunal:   "...the question of universal peace, about which BahÃ'u'llÃh says that the Supreme Tribunal must be established: although the League of Nations has been bro

Supreme Tribunal: How Did BahÃ'u'llÃh Establish It?

2004-05-14 Thread Max Jasper
Dear Scholars, In His tablet to the Hague, Abdu'l-Baha wrote about BahÃ'u'llÃh's establishing the Supreme Tribunal: "...the question of universal peace, about which BahÃ'u'llÃh says that the Supreme Tribunal must be established: although the League of Nations has been brought into existence, y

RE: Supreme Tribunal: How Did Baha'u'llah Establish It?

2004-05-14 Thread Max Jasper
Dear Iskandar and Ahang, Many thanks for your comments on Supreme Tribunal and the references. It appears that Kathy Lee has done a wonderful research on Lesser Peace and I find her connecting of the "retributive calamity" to the formation of "Supreme Tribunal" and materialization of the "Lesser P

RE: Supreme Tribunal: How Did Baha'u'llah Establish It?

2004-05-14 Thread Max Jasper
Dear Ahang, For sure, she acknowledges her book to be based on Mr Nakhjavani's comments and encouragement. This I missed when I was rushing to get to the topic I was looking for. Many thanks again. Max. |> It |> appears that Kathy Lee has done a wonderful research on Lesser Peace |> and |I |> f

RE: Supreme Tribunal: How Did Baha'u'llah Establish It?

2004-05-14 Thread Max Jasper
Mark, That argument is not hers, but rather it is firmly specified by the Guardian in several communications from him. Max. | |For what it's worth, I thought that was the weakest part of |her argument. | |Mark A. Foster * http://markfoster.net _

British Major: Wellesley Tudor-Pole

2004-05-24 Thread Max Jasper
The story from the side of Haifa is told by Major Tudor-Pole, V.C. "It must have been in the early spring of 1918 that I began to feel acute anxiety for 'Abdu'l-Baha's safety at Haifa, and that of His family and followers there. I came out of the line in December 1917 during the attack on Jerusal

RE: Alternative Study Circle Model

2004-09-02 Thread Max Jasper
My understanding is that design of such alternative courses to Ruhi, or even much more developments in this regard should be undertaken either by the Institute Boards or under their direction, not by individual believers independently. This will guarantee "systematization" required by the UHJ. --M

RE: Day of Covenant beginnings

2004-11-25 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message "In response to your letter of 2 December 1984 asking a question about the event commemorated on the Day of the Covenant, the Universal House of Justice has directed us to send you the following extract from a letter written on behalf of the beloved guardian on this subject: 'T

RE: changing email address

2004-11-27 Thread Max Jasper
Login & modify at: http://list.jccc.net/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=bahai-st | |I have been trying to change the email address at |which I receive mail from this group. My many |attempts have been unsuccessful. Can anyone help? | |Thank you! |Dave Lambert ___

RE: To Brent: one point

2004-12-09 Thread Max Jasper
|Depending on the dictionary. However, don't you think that is |different from simply recommending against their use in general? | |I will stick with my analogy to some of the fundamentalist |Christian groups I have encountered. IMO, Ruhi comes pretty close |(in several respects). | Please cons

There is NO "Ruhi Method"

2004-12-09 Thread Max Jasper
* Participant 4: 1 went to a very stimulating course for training tutors of Rook I. For the first few hours we played games to get to know each other and trust each other. Then someone suggested that we empty' ourselves so we spent an after noon talking about whatever was on our minds. I thought

Not be referred to as the "Ruhi method"

2004-12-09 Thread Max Jasper
This tips focuses on the question and answer study process introduced in Book 1, Unit 1. Tutors should not be rigid about this process, but bear in mind that it is helpful to have a technique for study - in other words, "a systematic procedure by which a task is accomplished". It should not be refe

No "Personal Opinions" in Ruhi

2004-12-09 Thread Max Jasper
In studying any course of the Ruhi Institute, participants are expected to achieve three levels of comprehension. The first is a basic understanding of the meaning of words and sentences. Thus, for example, after reading the quotation, “The betterment of the world can be accomplished through pure

Ruhi, Prolonged Discussions

2004-12-09 Thread Max Jasper
Many years of experience with the courses of the Ruhi Institute have shown that examining ideas at these three levels of understanding helps collaborators create the conscious basis of a life of service to the Cause. But what may surprise someone who is unfamiliar with this experience is that ef

Ruhi, Tutor's Role

2004-12-09 Thread Max Jasper
In general, this course is not complex, and like all Ruhi Institute courses, it is conducted tutorially. This is best done by dividing the participants into small groups and allowing each group to move along at its own pace and according to its own rhythm. This point is extremely important, because

Ruhi, Tutor's Role

2004-12-09 Thread Max Jasper
Small groups of participants, working with the assistance of a tutor, meet together in an atmosphere of joy, calm and meditative serenity to engage in close study of the course materials. The tutor's role is that of a facilitator of learning, and seldom that of a lecturer. The responsibility for le

Ruhi, Participation, Political Manipulation

2004-12-09 Thread Max Jasper
The Ruhi Institute, following the ideas presented in the previous paragraphs, asserts that effective participation which will not easily degenerate into political manipulation requires a systematic learning process within each community and region so that the community itself experiments with new i

Ruhi, Transitory Motivation, An Example

2004-12-09 Thread Max Jasper
I would like to invite you to join a study circle we have recently established in our community. There are already twelve people in our group, and I am sure you will like every one of them. We have a great deal of fun together. We study twice a week for a couple of hours but also engage in other ac

Ruhi, Tutor's Intention

2004-12-09 Thread Max Jasper
1. Do you think the students can sense the purity of the tutor's intentions? _ 2. How would the motivation of the students be affected if they sensed that their tutor felt superior to them?

Ruhi, Beyond Words

2004-12-09 Thread Max Jasper
Your ability to foster and assess understanding will require you to continually develop such attributes as sensitivity, detachment and generosity and draw on your powers of perception and intuition. You will need to listen everyone carefully. Often an individual does not have sufficient words to ex

Ruhi, Inappropriate Tutor's Manners

2004-12-09 Thread Max Jasper
Now turn to the question of your study circles. It is hard to imagine that the ugly behavior mentioned above would ever be displayed in that setting. But you will have to watch for more subtle forms of conduct that could undermine the atmosphere of loving-kindness. Here are, for example, some diffi

Ruhi, Flexibility

2004-12-09 Thread Max Jasper
If there is one concept that we hope characterizes the approach of the Ruhi Institute, it is flexibility. However, protecting a system from rigidity is not an easy task, especially when it becomes widely used in diverse circumstances around the world. There is a tendency in most of us to introduce

Ruhi, "Ruhi Method" Rigidity

2004-12-09 Thread Max Jasper
* Participant 4: 1 went to a very stimulating course for training tutors of Rook I. For the first few hours we played games to get to know each other and trust each other. Then someone suggested that we empty' ourselves so we spent an after noon talking about whatever was on our minds. I thought th

Ruhi, Beyond Ruhi

2004-12-09 Thread Max Jasper
The above describes one way in which an institute program for the development of human resources for the expansion and consolidation of the Faith may unfold. What is important for you to realize is that the program will not be the same for every institute that has chosen to use the Ruhi Institute m

Ruhi, No Need for Rituals

2004-12-09 Thread Max Jasper
Whatever activities a study circle undertakes, it is important that no feelings of exclusivity ever be allowed to develop among its members. Their activities should serve to bind the group together in fellowship and at the same time attract others to their mode of learning. The meetings of the stud

Ruhi, Dictinary or No Dictionary!

2004-12-09 Thread Max Jasper
* Participants in the courses of the Ruhi Institute are expected to achieve three levels of comprehension of the quotations they study: to understand the meaning of the words and sentences from the Writings, to see how concepts in the Writings apply to one's daily life, and to grasp some of the imp

Ruhi, Not Possible when Tutor is Arrogant

2004-12-09 Thread Max Jasper
The reflections in the previous section on the dynamics of a study circle, dynamics which are generated by its purpose to contribute to the spiritual and moral empowerment of the participants, must have reaffirmed your conviction that to become an effective tutor, one must learn to nurture others.

RE: Progressive Revelation

2004-12-21 Thread Max Jasper
|Do you have a specific definition of Progressive Revelation |that one can refer to? Because looking at the passage you |quote in the Quran: Sure, here it is: http://studycircle.angeltowns.com/progressive.htm __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studi

RE: Men and Women equal?

2004-12-23 Thread Max Jasper
The correct wording of this is as follows: "According to the ordinances of the Faith of God, women are the equals of men in all rights save only that of membership on the Universal House of Justice, for, as hath been stated in the text of the Book, both the Head and the members of the House of Jus

Mona with the Children

2004-12-26 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message   one of my friends recently returned from the SED conference in Florida,and he forwarded me the following bit of news which was shared with the participants. thought it would be of interest to you all as well. lots of love, me   Hi my friends, I wish you could all have been

Help Needed in London: HIV/AIDS Education: Baha'i View

2004-12-26 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message The charts that are presented here speak much louder than the articles that frequently reach me on this subject. I am a community college English professor and I am looking for community awareness opportunities for twenty students I am bringing to London March 19-24. Are you

Renewed Attack

2004-12-30 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message Renewed Attack: http://www.baztab.com/news/19656.php __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st

Two Baha'is Deported from Iran

2005-01-12 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message Two Baha'is Deported from Iran http://www.farsnews.com/NewsVm.asp?ID=122492 __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, u

RE: The Bab's wife

2005-01-26 Thread Max Jasper
I remember Abdu'l-Baha mentioned that women reach maturity at the age 20. | |It would seem that this quote is pertinent to this |discussionat least |the parts of the discussion that are discussing the age of the women. | |"marriage is therefore conditional upon |reaching the age of maturity,

RE: The Bab's wife

2005-01-26 Thread Max Jasper
Reference added: I remember Abdu'l-Baha mentioned that women reach maturity at the age 20. [--SW #7 p 142] __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To

RE: How to pick a prophet? Re: Arson

2005-01-27 Thread Max Jasper
And further, it is an allegorical indication that man can never reach the station of God. | |> I think this is a big challenge Baha'u'llah is inviting people to |> produce a verse like what He is revealing. | |The verse in the Tablet of Ahmad doesn't appear to me to be an |invitation to produce m

RE: "tree"

2005-02-15 Thread Max Jasper
Qur'an 53:16 Lote-tree is Sidrat Sidrat is distinguished from Shajar in that Shajar is a general word for tree, while Sidrat is a strong tree whose hight reaches 40 meters and its life span can be up to 3000 years, and is also called Soloman Tree. |What is the Arabic word for "tree" in the followi

RE: 2000 Years of suffering

2005-08-29 Thread Max Jasper
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Golgashti Dar Quran-I-Majid

2005-08-30 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message Golgashti Dar Quran-I-Majidگلگشتی در قرآن مجید Author: Ehsan, Shahin & Parviz Rawhani, مترجم: شهین – احسا, larger image larger image $8.00CAD  $6.00CADSave: 25% off ISBN: ABS008SFormat: Subject:

RE: Devastating stampede

2005-08-31 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message It appears that such events are part of a much greater calamities on Muslims due to their own actions: http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/se/PDC/pdc-23.html |Subject: Devastating stampede|||I just heard the awful saddening news of a stampede in Iraq|today in which some 700 (mos

RE: Devastating stampede

2005-08-31 Thread Max Jasper
You forgot to add : "in my limited understanding of the Baha'i Holy Writings". | |Say what?! |Are you making a sick joke or what? Shoghi Effendi is talking |about the actions of the Shi`ah **"ecclesiastical order"** and |the wave of secularization in Persia then. | | The information containe

RE: Devastating stampede

2005-09-02 Thread Max Jasper
Please notice that I never suggested that notion. Someone assumed I had meant so and heaped some abusive words on that notion. Very customary in discussions among North Americans. | |So when you expressed shock at Max for suggesting that the |deaths of the Muslim women and children were due to som

RE: Devastating stampede

2005-09-02 Thread Max Jasper
Simply I meant: the abasement and humiliation descending upon Muslims, which of course are getting momentum and escalate as time passes, is a direct result of their own actions by rejecting the new teachings of God, insisting to implement obsolete doctrines, and distancing themselves from the true

RE: Devastating stampede

2005-09-03 Thread Max Jasper
We have but to turn our gaze to humanity's blood-stained history to realize that nothing short of intense mental as well as physical agony has been able to precipitate those epoch-making changes that constitute the greatest landmarks in the history of human civilization. (Shoghi Effendi, T

RE: Self-Definition

2005-09-04 Thread Max Jasper
They do not believe in the COVENANT defined by the chain of Successors, hence, they cannot be considered Baha'is. Belief in Baha'u'llah requires belief in His Covenant part of which is defined and end up with the profound belief to the Successorship of the Twin Institutions of {Guardianship}+{Uinve

RE: Self-Definition

2005-09-04 Thread Max Jasper
"Bahá'í" is attributed to an individual based on the definitions of the Bahá'í Institutions, not based on person's claim. To eradicate any confusion from the Assembly members & Institutions, it appears that now "Bahá'í in good standing" is added to distinguish whether a person is self-defined Bahá'

RE: Self-Definition

2005-09-04 Thread Max Jasper
Using the same reasoning you use, then, we have to accept, for example, as "sociologist" any person who claims to be one, even when he has no education, no experience, neither any knowledge whatsoever of sociology, and not even a member of Association of Sociologists, but just based on your theory

RE: Self-Definition

2005-09-04 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message Excellent! So we conclude that in order to see who is a real Muslim we have to have a reference point, i.e., a criteria which is infallible or divinely guided. We have to turn to God Himself then to see who is a Muslim.For that purpose "self-definition" is insufficient cri

RE: Self-Definition

2005-09-04 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message A Bahá'í is a "Quickener of Mankind" according to the Holy Word. He is far greater in station and responsibility than a sociologist ! And yet theory of "self-definition" applies to Bahá'í but not to sociologist?   Max.     The information contained in this e-mail and a

RE: Self-Definition

2005-09-04 Thread Max Jasper
ne thing. Self-identification of an academic or professional practice is an altogether different thing. No one would go to a sel-identified physician for treatment if he KNEW the individual had no professional status whatsoever. To compare the two and call it

RE: Self-Definition

2005-09-04 Thread Max Jasper
Offensive! Yes offensive. It was offensive to Jews the Words of a young man of 30 that's why they killed Him (Jesus). And Imam Husayn's Words were offensive to most people who killed Him. Most Manifestations of God are offensive to ignorant masses. Max. |I think those sorts of definitions would s

RE: Devastating stampede

2005-09-17 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message "On the appearance of fearful natural events call ye to mind the might and majesty of your Lord, He Who heareth and seeth all, and say, 'Dominion is God's, the Lord of the seen and the unseen, the Lord of creation' ."   -- Bahá'u'lláh      The information contained in

RE: How to get MS Word to display the word Baha'i correctly

2005-09-18 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message In MS Word menus: Tools > Autocorrect Options> type at left pane : Baha'i type at right pane: Bahá'í   again; type at left pane: Bahai type at right pane: Bahá'í   á = hold Alt+160 (160 must be typed on numerical keypad) í = hold Alt+161     The information contai

RE: The Greatest Name

2005-09-25 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message One possible explanations is: that is exactly the Word revealed to His Manifestation in its revealed language. Next Manifestation might use "God is Most Glorious" instead if He is chosen from among Yankees!     The information contained in this e-mail and any attachmen

RE: Challenging Writing from Abdu'l-Baha

2005-10-07 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message We may ask what the physical counterpart of the soul is in this world. It seems from the study of the Writings that it is the embryo growing in the womb of a mother. From a study of the latter, we can deduce some attributes and characteristics of the former. We can observe

RE: A couple of questions

2005-10-08 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message If such progress and self-improvement was possible within present context of Islam it was not necessary for God to appoint a new Manifestation. Islamic Fatvas against Jews, Baha'is and other religions and even cultures proves this point. The fundamental problem is due to l

RE: A couple of questions

2005-10-09 Thread Max Jasper
For a comprehensive response you are urged to study the concept of progressive revelation: http://studycircle.angeltowns.com/progressive.htm |I understand what you are saying but from my perspective it |seems like there is a contradiction which you aren't |addressing. If Muslims believe that certa

RE: A couple of questions

2005-10-09 Thread Max Jasper
Baha'u'llah in Iqan reveals & elucidates that after advent of a Manifestation of God all those who believe in Him are believers, and the rest of mankind are, in the estimation of God: "Kafir". He explains the view point of God! For instance, He explains that when Prophet Muhammad declared His Proph

RE: A couple of questions

2005-10-09 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message In Iqan paragraph 42, Baha'u'llah attributes "waywardness and misbelief" to those who refused accepting next Manifestation of God. His original Words are: "Kufr va zillalat", and hence, it can be concluded that "Kafir" is defined categorically in Iqan as anyone who does no

RE: A couple of questions

2005-10-09 Thread Max Jasper
A research of Persian & English versions of Iqan reveals that words "infidel", "kafir", "non-believer", or "kufr", "misbelief" are interchangable as recorded in the following paragraphs of English & Persian Iqan: Infidel= #12 anfus-i-mushrikih = misbelievers #27 takfir, kufr #57 kafir

RE: A couple of questions

2005-10-10 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message Meaning of Perverting the Holy Text  This is one of the instances that have been referred to. Verily by "perverting" the text is not meant that which these foolish and abject souls have fancied, even as some maintain that Jewish and Christian divines have effaced from the

RE: A couple of questions

2005-10-11 Thread Max Jasper
The whole NT contains ONLY 2 social laws: divorce, Sabbath. The rest of it are all spiritual laws and teachings which are common in all revelations. It was so because Christ Dispensation was concentrated on building character of the individual. Muhammad's Dispensation was destined to be nation bu

RE: A couple of questions

2005-10-11 Thread Max Jasper
The cause of Christ was wholly spiritual. He changed nothing save the Sabbath day, certain laws of conduct and the law of divorce. (Abdu'l-Baha, Divine Philosophy, p. 150) | |Divorce is not prohibited in the NT. Paul allowed it in cases | |Similarly, Shabbos (the Jewish Sabbath) is not cl

RE: A couple of questions

2005-10-11 Thread Max Jasper
Thus it was that Christ broke the Sabbath and forbade divorce. (Abdu'l-Baha, Some Answered Questions, p. 93) |Divorce is not prohibited in the NT. Paul allowed it in cases |of adultery. (The idea that Christ forbade divorce is a |Baha'i, not a NT, teaching.) The information contain

RE: A couple of questions

2005-10-11 Thread Max Jasper
Thus, in the entire New Testament, there appeareth naught but the prohibition of divorce and the allusion to the abrogation of the Sabbath (The Universal House of Justice, 2001 Apr 18, Clarification of Various Issues Raised by Provisional Translations, p. 2) |Divorce is not prohibited in

RE: A couple of questions

2005-10-11 Thread Max Jasper
'The disciples might accept Jesus' abrogation of the law of the Sabbath and his prohibition of divorce, but they could not accept the principle on which these changes depended. 'They could not apply it to other parts of the Mosaic tradition. When Jesus was no longer with them in the flesh to give d

RE: A couple of questions

2005-10-12 Thread Max Jasper
| |Until Muhammad, most religious scriptures were basically human |records, sometimes fictionalized, of the words and actions of |the Prophets and Their followers. In a Baha'i context, they |would be similar to a pilgrim's notes. | This view seems to be opposite to the Baha'I Writings that confirm

RE: Interesting thread

2005-10-12 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message "There is so much misunderstanding about Islam in the West in general that you have to dispel. Your task is rather difficult and requires a good deal of erudition. Your chief task is to acquaint the friends with the pure teaching of the Prophet as recorded in the Qur'án, an

RE: The Sanctified Imam Rid.a [the 8th Imam quotes the Bible]

2005-10-14 Thread Max Jasper
Incorrect personal conclusion from the so-called Baha'I Writings: |I don't see what you are trying to prove exactly. The Bahai |writings are very clear that the Bible is NOT wholly authentic |and has certain problems in it. The difference between what |I'm saying about the Bible and what the Bahai

RE: Every NSA gets the same number of votes

2005-10-16 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message In the next stages of development of the Universal House of Justice, its membership will increase by 9 as Abdu'l-Baha explained. So we might see in near future a House with 81 members.   Hence, membership of the House is not limited to 9.   Also, developments in worldwide

No CC Please

2005-10-16 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message I am receiving duplicate messages as cc email. Please remove me in your responses cc before posting to Baha'i Studies Forum. Thanks.     The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCC

RE: Interesting thread

2005-10-18 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message 'Abdu'l-Bahá then shared some humorous stories and laughingly stated that: Once there were three passengers on a ship: a Muslim, a Christian and a Jew. The Muslim prayed, 'O God, take the life of this Christian!' The Christian prayed, 'Lord, slay this Muslim.' Then they

RE: Sources for "Tablets of Baha'u'llah - Revealed after the Aqdas"

2005-10-19 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message In the Persian/Arabic version of that same book.     The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or enti

RE: Fwd: Interesting thread

2005-10-19 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message I am relatively sure he would claim this refers to Baha'is, and they must be killed as the Prophet instructed.     The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") and is intended to

Contemporary Islamic Fatva regarding Baha'is

2005-10-20 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message Contemporary Islamic Fatva regarding Baha'is:   http://www.wilayah.ir/pr/library/ajvabe/files/page21.php     The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") and is intended to be con

Israel according to Qur'an

2005-10-20 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message Islam/Commentary: WHAT THE QUR'AN REALLY SAYS by Shaykh Prof. Abdul Hadi Palazzi THE QUR'AN SAYS THAT ALLAH GAVE THE LAND OF ISRAEL TO THE JEWS AND WILL RESTORE THEM TO IT AT THE END OF DAYShttp://www.templemount.org/quranland.html      The information containe

RE: Sources for "Tablets of Baha'u'llah - Revealed after the Aqdas"

2005-10-20 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message Some info I found is as follows: (pages refer to English edition of Tablets of Baha'u'llah revealed after Kitab-i-Aqdas)   p231 Tablet to Siyyid Mirza Afnan 8-Muharram-1299 (30-Nov-1881) p233 Tablet to Haji Siyyid Mirza Rabiu'l-Avval-1292 (April-May 1875) p23

RE: Abdul-Baha and savages

2005-10-20 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message "If man himself is left in his natural state, he will become lower than the animal and continue to grow more ignorant and imperfect. The savage tribes of central Africa are evidences of this. Left in their natural condition, they have sunk to the lowest depths and degrees

What did Abdu'l-Bahá Know: An Historical Document

2005-10-20 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message What did Abdu'l-Bahá Know: An Historical Document http://studycircle.angeltowns.com/images/sur132.gif http://studycircle.angeltowns.com/images/sur133.gif       The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County

RE: Fwd: Interesting thread

2005-10-22 Thread Max Jasper
When God punishes man for his perversity, that is not called "genocide". "genocide" is done by man to man. | |I would say that genocide is always wrong, but some Bahais (like some |Christians) have argued that some genocides (like those |attributed to God in the OT) are ok. | The information

RE: Fwd: Interesting thread

2005-10-24 Thread Max Jasper
Such orders are present in many Holy Books of God, including Qur'an, and the *context* in which such instructions were given usually warrant God's reason for order them. | |I agree. I wasn't refering to the cases of fire and brimstone |raining down on folks from heaven or heavenly plagues. I was |

RE: Israel according to Qur'an

2005-10-26 Thread Max Jasper
No worries at all! Iran said, today, it is going to wipe out Israel in no time! |in order for Israel to maintain its character as a |Jewish state it has to deprive the native population of their |rights, and enforce a racist immigration policy. The information contained in this e-mail and an

RE: Marriage and heaven

2005-10-26 Thread Max Jasper
This question is asked from Jesus, and He gives a relatively comprehensive response. See NT. | |It says in the Writings that those married will be united |together while in |heaven. I was just wondering what would happen in the |following situation: |One spouse dies, and the other spouse remarrie

RE: John Hatcher

2005-10-27 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message [EMAIL PROTECTED] hope it works!     The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above.

RE: banu qurayzah: Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-27 Thread Max Jasper
Contradictory Information regarding the Events with Banu Qurayzah... http://www.understanding-islam.com/related/text.asp?type=discussion&did=356 The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") and is int

RE: banu qurayzah: Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-27 Thread Max Jasper
I know one here in our campus.! |wasn't wiped out. Wasn't wiped out, my foot. Just show me one |person. One. Only one, and one person only. | The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") and is intend

British Banks Ban Offensive 'Piggy' Banks

2005-10-28 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message British Banks Ban Offensive ‘Piggy’ Banks British banks are prohibiting piggy banks because they may offend some Muslims. The United Kingdom's Halifax and NatWest banks have banned the ubiquitous time-honored symbol of saving from being given to children or used in their ad

RE: Arguers Annonymous

2005-10-28 Thread Max Jasper
Please notice that God himself abrogated Qur'an in 1844 and replaced it with His new Dispensation. So Qur'an is obsolete as far as we Baha'is are concern. |Ok, you are an intelligent person with an MD. I don't know how |many times you've heard me try to say that I believe that |there should be som

Not so Interesting thread

2005-10-28 Thread Max Jasper
Or simply we can change the header! |I think it is fine to drop the thread. I've basically said my |peace for a while. | The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") and is intended to be confidential

RE: What's a good definition of Baha`i studies?

2005-10-28 Thread Max Jasper
This simply means participants in Baha'I discussions on this list must be academic. If you are not an academic, you have the choice of either not posting or getting a PhD as soon as possible. P.S. PhD's obtained through "distant learning" are *not* considered academic in this list. |Our own defin

RE: What's a good definition of Baha`i studies?

2005-10-28 Thread Max Jasper
And if non-academics express a view in variance to that of the academics, then they are given warning to refrain from attacking the academics. | |No, not really. That's what Bridges is for. Baha'i Studies is |intended to be a forum for dialogue between academics and |non-academics on Baha'i schola

RE: Men and Women in the same room

2005-10-29 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message |I've never ever seen a text which says that there is anything|wrong with talking (in public) to a person of the opposite|gender who isn't related to you. And I would suggest that if|you find people who declare things like that, it is more of a|cultural imperative.|Some in

RE: Men and Women in the same room

2005-10-29 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message "The pilgrim's note reports the Master as saying:     The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or ent

RE: Men and Women in the same room

2005-10-29 Thread Max Jasper
Your confusion is not limited to this issue only. |This is rather confusing. You've got two dates for the same |letter. My recollection is that it was addressed to John |Cornell who use to post here regularly before his sudden |passing, not to an NSA. The information contained in this e-mail

RE: Voted with their feet

2005-11-10 Thread Max Jasper
People all over the world are saying yes to what the Bahá'ís, with the North American Bahá'ís in the lead, have been doing. Some examples are: o SED projects all over the world, especially in India, Africa, Latin America. o The Ruhi Institute, born in Columbia, gives us an instrument which makes it

RE: Voted with their feet

2005-11-10 Thread Max Jasper
Title: Message |The quotation I'm looking for says|specifically that the Universal House of Justice did not|impose Ruhi from above, but that the Baha'is voted for it with|their feet.That is the Text of at least a letter of the UHJ. The UHJ created the "institute process", and what materia

RE: Voted with their feet

2005-11-10 Thread Max Jasper
To understand what could happen had the UHJ asked NSAs in North America to develop some systematic deepening course materials, we can just take a look at something similar called "Baha'i Encyclopedia" which Baha'i scholars began some 20 years ago and then they started to argue, then fights broke ou

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