I second Rob's comment. Thanks Ernst!
Arto
On 3.5.2020 12.31, Rob MacKillop wrote:
>Your Scribd page has amazing treasures, Ernst!
>Rob MacKillop
>
>On Sun, 3 May 2020 at 10:19, <[1]fischer...@aon.at> wrote:
>
> Dear lute friends,
> As you most probably know, the
Dear Mimmo,
if you decide to make the loaded nylgut strings (CD) less elastic, I
hope (and wish and urge ;-) ) that you keep also the original elastic
version in your repertoire! They work exceptionally well on my Harz
arclute, great stuff.
And big thanks for your invaluable work!
Arto
On
Hi
My first impressions of the Aquila loaded nylgut strings are very good
(archlute cc, G and F; 2x5th, 6th and 7th).
My 1st check:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7boXtpffL0=youtu.be
And 3 recorded real pieces:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV7q2jxMK3Q=youtu.be
Hi Robin,
I have 3 of them. Here are my very first tests of them, just when I got
them home:
Hoffmann 11-courser (28.10.2011)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJogB6wxB3U
Venere 7-courser (23.3.2012)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5lzPnVZl_ofeature=youtu.be
Dieffopruchar 10-courser
Hi lutenists,
after having read the great book by J. Hasek, The Good Soldier Svejk,
I had to play some Czech music... ;-)
The Sonata is just 3 pieces on consecutive pages in the Czech
manuscript Podebrady Jelinik (CZ-PnmE36), p. 48-51. The only real
connection to the Svejk by J.
Corrected link to the written music:
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/11_courseLute/SvejkSuite.pdf
On 03/06/14 00:24, Arto Wikla wrote:
Hi lutenists,
after having read the great book by J. Hasek, The Good Soldier Svejk,
I had to play some Czech music... ;-)
The Sonata
(11course):
http://polyhymnion.org/swv/music/finn/niin.mp3
http://polyhymnion.org/swv/music/finn/niin.pdf
Thanks to Arto Wikla for the tune!
Enjoy!
Amities,
RT
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Hi lutenists,
I happened to find a nice example of a chain of secondary dominants long
before they were invented. I've seen them also in other pieces of the
period, but this one is very clear in one Courante by Valentin Strobel
in the ms. PL-Kj40620:
Nice idea Danny! :)
Here is my try
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeNtCLv5cqofeature=youtu.be
recorded in 15.2.2013
Arto
On 19/11/13 23:30, DANIEL SHOSKES wrote:
Dear all: as brought to my attention by Cathy Liddell, a new comet is rounding
the sun and heading for earth's orbit. If it
Thanks to everyone who suggested the best maker of an 11-courser!
All the answers were private, which is very ok.
And here is the list of the suggested makers in alphabetical order:
Karl Kichmeyr
Dan Larson
Renatus Lechner
Ivo Magherini
Stephen Murphy
Renzo Salvador
Michael Schreiner
Clive
Dear baroque lutenists,
who do you regard as the best maker of 11-course lutes? I suppose my
question is only theoretical, because her/his instruments are probably
priced above my economical possibilites, though... ;-)
Anyhow, 11-courser is very addictive; much more than I could imagine
In case someone wants to play these pieces, here is my practical
performance facsimile:
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/11_courseLute/LeslieSuite/
Best,
Arto
On 30/08/13 22:17, Arto Wikla wrote:
Dear baroque lutenists,
Master Leslie or Mr. Leslie wrote only 5 pieces
Dear baroque lutenists,
Master Leslie or Mr. Leslie wrote only 5 pieces to the Scottish
manuscript Balcarres in the normal baroque tuning in d-minor - there
are some more pieces in the D-major tuning and also in some other
tuning...
Anyhow, I just tubed those 5, and then glued
Dear lutenists, b- and r-,
I happened to find an exceptionally good melody in the baroque lute
manuscript RA-BAn, Ms. 236.R-13769, Buenos Aires, Biblioteca Nacional.
It is a Sarabande with its (quite interestingly made) Double. The
composer is not known thus far today, but I strongly suppose,
Dear lutenists, b- and r-,
someone told me that it is something special, when you reach your 400th
playing to y-tube. Perhaps it is, perhaps not. Anyhow, I started by
several normal pocket digital cameras with their very lousy sound
quality, did also some (bad) video editing in
Dear baroque lutenists,
today I happened to find an interesting song setting to lute solo, quite
well made, in the D-LEm ms. II.6.24, Leipzig, Städtische Bibliotheken,
Musikbibliothek. The piece is also named interestingly: Die weil ich
nun Kein Weib nicht habe u. auch noch keines haben will.
Dear lutenists, baroque and not baroque,
my tiny project of playing a small lute suite of early music as seen
in the 1720's is now kind of completed. The pieces are quite good - I
guess better than my playing? - and not too difficult. Below you'll find
links that perhaps are useful to you;
Dear lutenists,
The ms. RA-BAn Ms. 236.R-13769, Buenos Aires, Biblioteca nacional, the
the so called Kalivoda Ms., contains mainly music of the Weiss' times,
Weiss included. But strangely enough, it seems to have also some early
music as seen in 1720's.
My second try in this is a Sarabande
Dear baroque lute friends (cc to the main list)
I happened to find something interesting: A Courante by Pierre Gaultier
in a ms. of much later times,
The Courante comes from ms. RA-BAn Ms. 236.R-13769, Buenos Aires,
Biblioteca nacional, fol. 109v. The composer, Pierre Gaultier, was
active
Dear baroque lutenists (and cc to the main Lute list, because the
baroque list is so silent nowadays...)
As we all know, very many pieces by Lully were transcribed to lutes and
theorbo all around the lute playing Europe in those days. I happened
to meet - once again - one in the
by Notator B)!
All the best,
Andreas
Am 19.03.2013 um 21:30 schrieb Arto Wikla:
Dear baroque lutenists,
does anyone know, whether there is an on-line version of the facsimile of the
Rhetorique des Dieux by Denis Gaultier? The pictures of the ms. are in the Net,
but what about the tabulature
In the Rhetorique des Dieux: Artemise ou l'Oraison funebre,
in the ms.ETGoessII C(ourante) G(aultier) sur L'entree de La Reine de
Suede dans Paris:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN7ui491_7Ifeature=youtu.be
http://vimeo.com/61828222
best,
Arto
On 12/03/13 22:49, Arto Wikla wrote
Dear baroque lutenists,
when I started to study the baroque lute 3 years and some months ago,
one of my first tries was one at least historically interesting piece -
and at least to us Finns, Swedes and probably also Russians:
This anonymous lute arrangement of of a marche by Anders von
Hi b-lutenists,
I just made my 2nd pathetic try on La Comete, Chaconne du V.Gallot
into the tubes:
[1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeNtCLv5cqofeature=youtu.be
[2]http://vimeo.com/59757771
Very far from perfect performance, but today it was the most perfect
day to play an
.. just in (the rare) case someone is interested:
Rondaut Comte d'Logy (US-NYpMYO, f.33v-34r)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZsNLTeD7iofeature=youtu.be
http://vimeo.com/57699391
Arto
On 16/01/13 21:51, Arto Wikla wrote:
Dear baroque lutenists,
I happened to find a Courante by Losy
Dear baroque lutenists,
I happened to find a Courante by Losy that starts very French way, but
in the B section goes to some kind of Sturm und Drang. Perhaps Losy is
an interesting case, anyhow... ;-)
Courante Comte d'Logy (US-NYpMYO, f.31v-32r):
Message - From: Arto Wikla wi...@cs.helsinki.fi
To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 3:29 PM
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: La prima sera in NYp-MYO: composer and
structure?
In case someone wants to investigate the original title, you can see it
here:
http
Dear baroque musicians,
in case my direct, unedited, not echo-boosted home recordings insult
you, please delete this mail immediately! ;-)
If you did not:
I just tubed an Endre (Entree) and an Aria in A-major from
US-NYpMYO. They are kind of simply pieces, the Endre perhaps even sounds
Hi lutenists,
An Aria with a mini Prelude:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0WWgw-wJ2ofeature=youtu.be
http://vimeo.com/56928250
Anyone recognises this Aria? it is probably an Italian opera aria that
was known in Vienna sometime around 1700.
Arto
On 29/12/12 22:25, Arto Wikla wrote
ex B
g-moll- D-B40627 / 63v
Best regards
Markus
Am 07.01.2013 20:30, schrieb Arto Wikla:
Hi lutenists,
An Aria with a mini Prelude:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0WWgw-wJ2ofeature=youtu.be
http://vimeo.com/56928250
Anyone recognises this Aria? it is probably an Italian opera aria
Dear baroque lutenists,
I happened to find an unknown Aria by an unknown composer in ms.
US-NYpMYO, fol. 13v. The piece sounds irritatingly familiar, though. If
somebody happens to know the piece or the composer, please let me know!
Dear baroque lutenists,
a tiny Preludium and an Allamande in the US-NYpMYO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=293ITxEklvQfeature=youtu.be
http://vimeo.com/56162661
Not very difficult pieces at all!
But I really do like the often very economic style of the early and
middle baroque -
... ;-)
Best,
Arto
On 07/12/12 21:57, Arto Wikla wrote:
Just in case someone is interested, I played today a Sarabande in F
major by de Visee. Could be played cleaner, but the piece is quite
intersting:
[3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHCOlVzffxkfeature=youtu.be
[4
version, and only to the d-minor
tuned lute?
best,
Arto
On 16/11/12 22:02, Arto Wikla wrote:
Dear lutenists of every type and baroque guitarists,
I find it quite interesting that monsieur de Visee made some
arrangements of some of the most famous composers of his time. I tried
Sorry, it is in A MAJOR
On 15/11/12 20:04, Arto Wikla wrote:
Dear Jean-Marie,
in GB-Ob ms. G.617 there seems to be one Prelude de Gautier de P, p.
120-121, in A minor. Peter S's pages say it is V. Gaultier. Isn't the
P for Paris?
All the best,
Arto
On 15/11/12 12:44, Jean-Marie
Hi again dear pluckers,
I just tried to play my version ofthe famous Chaconne to theorbo
arranged to baroque lute. Possibly by the composer himself? Or not by
him? Who knows...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqHHPeLMNYUfeature=youtu.be
http://vimeo.com/53172045
I know the theorbo
... and then F# minor again:
Robert de Visee: Gavotte in F# minor
[1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VlBbuW22zYfeature=youtu.be
[2]http://vimeo.com/52292492
best,
Arto
On 25/10/12 23:03, Arto Wikla wrote:
... and then my 2nd try of La Montfermeil
Beautiful!
Thank you Bernhard!
Arto
PS What is Peter Steur's code for this ms.?
PS2 Can the pdf be found somewhere?
On 24/10/12 11:49, Bernhard Fischer wrote:
Dear lute friends,
The Austrian National Library owns a baroque lute manuscript
hand-written by the composer Johann
... and then my 2nd try of La Montfermeil, Rondeau by de Visee:
[1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZpGmZaP1u8feature=youtu.be
[2]http://vimeo.com/52176020
best,
Arto
On 20/10/12 22:50, Arto Wikla wrote:
Dear baroque lutenists,
after having played some
.. I could not resist --- as I told, addictive it is ... ;-)
Devo's gige, by mr. Beck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81ohrvaneF4feature=youtu.be
http://vimeo.com/51355922
All the best,
Arto
Dear lutenists,
I already decided to come back to the Continental lute repertoire, but
couldn't
/12 22:30, Arto Wikla wrote:
.. I could not resist --- as I told, addictive it is ... ;-)
Devo's gige, by mr. Beck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81ohrvaneF4feature=youtu.be
http://vimeo.com/51355922
All the best,
Arto
Dear lutenists,
I already decided to come back to the Continental lute
Dear lutenists,
I already decided to come back to the Continental lute repertoire, but
couldn't yet... ;)
In many years I tried to understand the Scottish lute music, but could
not - it just looked like some aleatoric computer generated random
stuff. But for some reason or another I
is in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ2hXggEt88feature=youtu.be
http://vimeo.com/50845390
All the best,
Arto
On 03/10/12 22:15, Arto Wikla wrote:
On 01/10/12 21:55, Arto Wikla wrote:
Hi all,
After the Paunges of a desperate lover, Mr. McLaughland's way, by mr.
Beck (ms. Balcarres 187
On 01/10/12 21:55, Arto Wikla wrote:
Hi all,
After the Paunges of a desperate lover, Mr. McLaughland's way, by mr.
Beck (ms. Balcarres 187)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PO3whJQX6gfeature=youtu.be
http://vimeo.com/50701736
Does this paunges mean pangs? So some kind of pains or sorrows
Dear lutenists,
as my subject says, there really is something unique in the way the
Scots adopted the lute. Already in the times of the vieil accord, the
renaissance tuning, the Scots used the lute in playing their own songs
and melodies - in modern terms playing the folk music. And that
Dear lutenists,
I end my tiny project of trying to understand David Grieve (of the ms.
Balcarres) by Grieve's version of the most famous Bergamasca jam session
chord progression of the renaissance and baroque. The man clearly seems
to have his own style among the musicians/composers of the
Sorry for flooding, ..., but it just is so inspiring to try to
understand a style that is new to you... This time I tried an Amarillis
by an anonymous composer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGyKh1GV5SIfeature=youtu.be
http://vimeo.com/50013553
Arto
On 22/09/12 21:23, Arto Wikla
, Arto Wikla wrote:
Well, in case there is some interest ... ;-)
Also David Grieve wrote his Tastar de corde:
The touching of the strings, David Grieve's way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro0mY_wUwwAfeature=youtu.be
http://vimeo.com/49927107
Best,
Arro
On 19/09/12 21:23, Arto Wikla wrote
Just in case someone is interested...
The Lady Errols delight, the 2nd way, by David Grieve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d-KkdCwOSgfeature=youtu.be
http://vimeo.com/49778004
Best,
Arto
On 14/09/12 20:50, Arto Wikla wrote:
Dear lutenists,
if my flooding hurts, just delete
Well, I tried one much more well behaving Balcarres piece:
;-)
From the fair Lavinion shoar, David Grieve's way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdIYivEF5E8feature=youtu.be
http://vimeo.com/49398999
Arto
On 08/09/12 21:50, Arto Wikla wrote:
Dear lutenists of both Lists,
I have been trying
. Fruitful mixture!
Best,
Arto
On 31/08/12 22:05, Arto Wikla wrote:
Hi all
I tried to play a piece of the ms. Balcarres, the Joy to the Person of
my love, mr. Beck's way:
[1][3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h3B6kimdNIfeature=youtu.be
[2][4]http://vimeo.com/48612640
.. another Dubut, a Sarabande:;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2oxieqoM6Ifeature=youtu.be
http://vimeo.com/45257093
Seems to be interesting composer!
Arto
On 04/07/12 20:26, Arto Wikla wrote:
Dear b-lutenists,
my first try to Pierre Dubut's (fils?) music is Gavotte(?) La
Is the ms. Denby the same as the ms. Danby? See Crawford's page
http://www.doc.gold.ac.uk/~mas01tc/web/ttc/Danby.html
Arto
On 03/06/12 23:02, Daniel Shoskes wrote:
The D-B Ms SA4060 Ms is turning out to be a very entertaining source of music.
I found a courante by Logy that has a
.. a couple of tiny little Kremsmunsterian pieces (Gavotte and Menuet,
perhaps?):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsBYVNfQzfUfeature=youtu.be
Happy key,
Arto
On 31/05/12 23:19, Arto Wikla wrote:
Dear b-lutenists,
remember, delete is easy, if this kind of mails hurt... ;-)
I just
...? ;-))
So, this is perhaps an Allemande:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRpdYIiB_pAfeature=youtu.be
Best,
Arto
On 30/05/12 20:28, Arto Wikla wrote:
Dear lutenists,
I happened to find a possible source of this famous Christmas carol in
a baroque lute ms. The B-part of the piece is very near
Dear lutenists,
I happened to find a possible source of this famous Christmas carol in a
baroque lute ms. The B-part of the piece is very near...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSd3TmSgM-Mfeature=youtu.be
yes, yes, I now the Christmas is not near... ;-)
Arto
To get on or off this list
Dear lutenists,
I perhaps should not shamelessly self promote(?), but this kind of
mails are anyhow so easily deleted... ;-)
So, I am still advertising the lute music after Dowland and before
Weiss. There is lots of that!!
Now I have a tiny project of getting to know the Austrian (=Imperial)
Dear Bill and the List,
I recommend Mimmo's Aquila's D's to the basses, for which there still
are no NNG's/NGE's. Wound on NNG, I guess. But much, very much better
than the old Pyramid type wound strings. And if I have understood it
right, Mimmo is developing a better solution: loaded
And Bill, I actually just replaced the old, very old - 1980's! -
Pyramid basses of my 10-courser to Aquila's D's. Great improvement!
Some examples of those D's (and also mainly NNG's):
Entree de Luth - Branle de Village 1 - Branle de Village 3.
Something wrong with the first link!? This should work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4vgNR9GipAfeature=youtu.be
Arto
On 23/05/12 23:40, Arto Wikla wrote:
And Bill, I actually just replaced the old, very old - 1980's! -
Pyramid basses of my 10-courser to Aquila's D's. Great
Dear lutenists,
I happened to find a simple but also quite beautiful little piece to
baroque lute. It is in one of the Kremsmunster mss., A-KR L83b, fol.
25r, piece number 248.There is no name of the piece, neither of the
composer, but somehow this piece sounds so familiar!
The piece is so
On 19/05/12 22:18, Arto Wikla wrote:
Now also in Vimeo: http://vimeo.com/42462352
Dear lutenists,
I happened to find a simple but also quite beautiful little piece to
baroque lute. It is in one of the Kremsmunster mss., A-KR L83b, fol.
25r, piece number 248.There is no name of the piece
Thanks Roman,
the 1945 history is now somehow cleared, and also Wikipedia tells much
of the Singakademie.
But who copied - penned - the ms. D-Bsa4060? The style of writing the
tabulature and also the line of the pen is something that I have not
found in the genuine 17th century mss. As I
Dear baroque lutenists and guitarists,
I played a tiny Prelude by Mouton from his printed book Pieces de Luth,
page 1. Here Mouton uses his unique(?) technique of playing first only
the low octave of a bass course and only after some higher strings the
upper octave of the same bass
Thank you Mathias and Stewart!
Interesting discussion!
There is an intersting comment by Gallot to the way Stewart wrote:.
A baroque trill consists of three elements:
1) An appoggiatura, i.e. play the note above the written note first
(b2).
2) A trill with as many turns as you can sensibly
Dear baroque musicians,
just a thought, no tubings! ;-)
Those unmeasured preludes of French baroque are interesting, demanding,
crazy and wonderful. You have to put your fingers so many times to the
strings to get any idea, what really is there. It is somehow like trying
to solve a puzzle or
Dear baroque lutenists,
in the ms. Barbe there is an interesting piece Le Perier de Mouton (p.
224-225). Does anyone have some information of that piece? Do you think
it is a (strange) Chaconne? What could be the reference Le Perier?
Some person or incident?
According to Peter's (wonderful)
Dear Anthony, Mathias and the List
Some personal aesthetic views of French style and Weiss et co:
I am not talking of some music being better or worse than some other
music. Actually my opinion is also generally that no style of music is
better or worse than any other style. Of course
Losy seems to be different. For ex. he uses here and there jumps (leaps)
of third and continues to the same direction, not filling the gap after
the jump.
Just made an Allemande that has this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrO0YxK-vOQ
http://vimeo.com/37255747
Similiar features in
Dear all,
this list is wonderful! (Thanks Wayne!)
And thanks to Mathias, Danny and Chris:
Mathias Rösel wrote:
why not consider the French edition:
http://www.sf-luth.org/index.php?Partitions/Le_Secret_des_Muses
Volume 29 : 31 duos français du XVIIe siècle, pour luths baroques onze
choeurs.
your system take care that everyone
gets only one message? Often the messages belong to two or more Lists...]
Best,
Arto
Original Message
Subject: [LUTE] Charles Mouton and Robert Johnson
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:35:38 +0200
From: Arto Wikla wi...@cs.helsinki.fi
To: lute
Beautiful, Mathias!
You play by your new 12 course lute?
Also I happened to play to the tube those first 3 pieces by my old
10-courser just a month ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDnThfm-uCQ
All the best,
Arto
Mathias Rösel wrote:
Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com schrieb:
Roman Turovsky wrote:
Part 2:
Andante con Variazioni for Torban and Orchestra.
http://torban.org/audio/torban-dumka.mp3
Beautiful piece, thanks. But a little bit more info wouldn't be bad. If
I had to analyze the piece wihout any info I would say it is ethnic
music, a modern arragement of a
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