[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Harp Sharp etc, on an 11c lute

[Rob MacKillop]

All you need is a pair of double-vision glasses...

Rob

> On 18 Oct 2017, at 19:27, howard posner  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 10:56 AM, Rob MacKillop  wrote:
>> 
>>  I don't think you ever will recover, Howard. Send me your shrink bills.
> 
> Not possible.  In SSTS (Single-Stringing Trauma Syndrome) cases she insists 
> on cash up front.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Harp Sharp etc, on an 11c lute

[howard posner]

> On Oct 18, 2017, at 10:56 AM, Rob MacKillop  wrote:
> 
>   I don't think you ever will recover, Howard. Send me your shrink bills.

Not possible.  In SSTS (Single-Stringing Trauma Syndrome) cases she insists on 
cash up front.




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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Harp Sharp etc, on an 11c lute

[Rob MacKillop]

   I don't think you ever will recover, Howard. Send me your shrink bills.
   I know what to do with them.
   Rob

   On 18 Oct 2017 18:51, "howard posner" <[1]howardpos...@ca.rr.com>
   wrote:

   > On Oct 18, 2017, at 1:15 AM, Rob MacKillop
   <[2]robmackil...@gmail.com> wrote:
   >
   >   There is nothing "authentic" about a single-strung 11c lute, I am
   the
   >first to admit. The truth is, the older I get the harder it
   becomes to
   >swap between instruments. These days I mainly play guitar and
   theorbo
   >(single strung) and to suddenly pick up an 11 or 13 c lute is more
   of a
   >challenge than it used to be. So, I decided to make life a little
   >easier for myself. I'm sure this will upset some people

 It certainly upset me.   I haven't been able to eat or sleep since I
 saw it.   Now I'm tired and skinny.   I'm hoping that with therapy I
 can get over it and resume a normal life.

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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Harp Sharp etc, on an 11c lute

[howard posner]

> On Oct 18, 2017, at 1:15 AM, Rob MacKillop  wrote:
> 
>  There is nothing "authentic" about a single-strung 11c lute, I am the
>   first to admit. The truth is, the older I get the harder it becomes to
>   swap between instruments. These days I mainly play guitar and theorbo
>   (single strung) and to suddenly pick up an 11 or 13 c lute is more of a
>   challenge than it used to be. So, I decided to make life a little
>   easier for myself. I'm sure this will upset some people

It certainly upset me.  I haven’t been able to eat or sleep since I saw it.  
Now I’m tired and skinny.  I’m hoping that with therapy I can get over it and 
resume a normal life.



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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Harp Sharp etc, on an 11c lute

[Rob MacKillop]

Good post, Luca. Well, I've been "maniacally hip" for almost 30 years, and have 
a wealth of experience in Early Music, but also elsewhere. Each decade seems to 
teach us more about the fashions of our own time than about (for example) the 
17th century. I've been through a lot of changes myself. To cut a long and 
fairly tedious story short, I'm now perfectly happy playing the way I do on 
this video. I know some people will like it, and some people won't. That's 
always the way of it, something I learned to accept many decades ago. 

Lang may yer lum reek! 

(Translation: Long may your chimney have smoke coming out of it! Something 
Wittgenstein forgot to add...)

Rob



> On 18 Oct 2017, at 11:37, Luca Manassero  wrote:
> 
> You're welcome, Rob.
> 
> And I tend to believe you're right. After 12 years of pretty intensive
> lute studies (renaissance in all its incarnations, baroque lute 11 and
> 13 course, theorbo) I'm still maniacally hip, BUT (and it's a big "but")
> I'm more and more fascinated by the music and its interpretation.
> 
> I'm not sure whether it's a good idea to start an easy flame on this
> list ;-) but I tend to believe that historically informed instruments
> helped us a lot to stop playing lute music as a sort of strange sounding
> Spanish guitar music. Once we learn it, then music is the real centrum.
> 
> You certainly already know what the Austrian philosopher Wittgenstein
> wrote (Umberto Eco ironically puts it in the mouth of Guglielmo da
> Baskerville in his "The name of the rose"): "[you] must, so to speak,
> throw away the ladder after [you have] climbed up it."
> 
> Therefore, I really like your video :-)
> 
> Luca
> 
> Il 2017-10-18 10:15 Rob MacKillop ha scritto:
> 
>> Thanks, Luca.
>> There is nothing "authentic" about a single-strung 11c lute, I am the
>> first to admit. The truth is, the older I get the harder it becomes to
>> swap between instruments. These days I mainly play guitar and theorbo
>> (single strung) and to suddenly pick up an 11 or 13 c lute is more of a
>> challenge than it used to be. So, I decided to make life a little
>> easier for myself. I'm sure this will upset some people, but all I want
>> to do is play beautiful music as best I can.
>> So, I hope people can just listen without making judgments over how
>> inauthentic I am being. I've been down the - shall we say - purist
>> road, and I love it when other people do that, as we all learn
>> something from it. I am still an "historically-informed performer",
>> though, and do my best to play with some sense of period style.
>> I hope people are open enough to just listen to the beautiful music.
>> And for what it's worth, I think the lute sounds beautiful too :-)
>> Rob MacKillop
>> 
>> On 18 October 2017 at 09:01, Luca Manassero <[1]l...@manassero.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm a bit wondering about the single strung lute, but the music is
>> really lovely.
>> Over here (near Venice) it's the "real" first Fall day (it was very
>> sunny 'til today) and this music just fits perfectly.
>> Thank you, Rob
>> Il 2017-10-18 01:09 Rob MacKillop ha scritto:
>>> Might be of interest to some here:
>>> [1][2]https://youtu.be/zvD4lwPoAks
>>> Rob MacKillop
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> References
>>> 
>>> 1. [3]https://youtu.be/zvD4lwPoAks
>>> 
>>> To get on or off this list see list information at
>>> [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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>> 
>> --
>> 
>> References
>> 
>> 1. mailto:l...@manassero.net
>> 2. https://youtu.be/zvD4lwPoAks
>> 3. https://youtu.be/zvD4lwPoAks
>> 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Harp Sharp etc, on an 11c lute

[Luca Manassero]

You're welcome, Rob.

And I tend to believe you're right. After 12 years of pretty intensive
lute studies (renaissance in all its incarnations, baroque lute 11 and
13 course, theorbo) I'm still maniacally hip, BUT (and it's a big "but")
I'm more and more fascinated by the music and its interpretation.

I'm not sure whether it's a good idea to start an easy flame on this
list ;-) but I tend to believe that historically informed instruments
helped us a lot to stop playing lute music as a sort of strange sounding
Spanish guitar music. Once we learn it, then music is the real centrum.

You certainly already know what the Austrian philosopher Wittgenstein
wrote (Umberto Eco ironically puts it in the mouth of Guglielmo da
Baskerville in his "The name of the rose"): "[you] must, so to speak,
throw away the ladder after [you have] climbed up it."

Therefore, I really like your video :-)

Luca

Il 2017-10-18 10:15 Rob MacKillop ha scritto:

> Thanks, Luca.
> There is nothing "authentic" about a single-strung 11c lute, I am the
> first to admit. The truth is, the older I get the harder it becomes to
> swap between instruments. These days I mainly play guitar and theorbo
> (single strung) and to suddenly pick up an 11 or 13 c lute is more of a
> challenge than it used to be. So, I decided to make life a little
> easier for myself. I'm sure this will upset some people, but all I want
> to do is play beautiful music as best I can.
> So, I hope people can just listen without making judgments over how
> inauthentic I am being. I've been down the - shall we say - purist
> road, and I love it when other people do that, as we all learn
> something from it. I am still an "historically-informed performer",
> though, and do my best to play with some sense of period style.
> I hope people are open enough to just listen to the beautiful music.
> And for what it's worth, I think the lute sounds beautiful too :-)
> Rob MacKillop
>
> On 18 October 2017 at 09:01, Luca Manassero <[1]l...@manassero.net>
> wrote:
>
> I'm a bit wondering about the single strung lute, but the music is
> really lovely.
> Over here (near Venice) it's the "real" first Fall day (it was very
> sunny 'til today) and this music just fits perfectly.
> Thank you, Rob
> Il 2017-10-18 01:09 Rob MacKillop ha scritto:
>> Might be of interest to some here:
>> [1][2]https://youtu.be/zvD4lwPoAks
>> Rob MacKillop
>>
>> --
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. [3]https://youtu.be/zvD4lwPoAks
>>
>> To get on or off this list see list information at
>> [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> --
>
> --
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:l...@manassero.net
> 2. https://youtu.be/zvD4lwPoAks
> 3. https://youtu.be/zvD4lwPoAks
> 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Harp Sharp etc, on an 11c lute

[Rob MacKillop]

   Thanks, Luca.
   There is nothing "authentic" about a single-strung 11c lute, I am the
   first to admit. The truth is, the older I get the harder it becomes to
   swap between instruments. These days I mainly play guitar and theorbo
   (single strung) and to suddenly pick up an 11 or 13 c lute is more of a
   challenge than it used to be. So, I decided to make life a little
   easier for myself. I'm sure this will upset some people, but all I want
   to do is play beautiful music as best I can.
   So, I hope people can just listen without making judgments over how
   inauthentic I am being. I've been down the - shall we say - purist
   road, and I love it when other people do that, as we all learn
   something from it. I am still an "historically-informed performer",
   though, and do my best to play with some sense of period style.
   I hope people are open enough to just listen to the beautiful music.
   And for what it's worth, I think the lute sounds beautiful too :-)
   Rob MacKillop

   On 18 October 2017 at 09:01, Luca Manassero <[1]l...@manassero.net>
   wrote:

 I'm a bit wondering about the single strung lute, but the music is
 really lovely.
 Over here (near Venice) it's the "real" first Fall day (it was very
 sunny 'til today) and this music just fits perfectly.
 Thank you, Rob
 Il 2017-10-18 01:09 Rob MacKillop ha scritto:
 > Might be of interest to some here:
 > [1][2]https://youtu.be/zvD4lwPoAks
 > Rob MacKillop
 >
 > --
 >
 > References
 >
 > 1. [3]https://youtu.be/zvD4lwPoAks
 >
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References

   1. mailto:l...@manassero.net
   2. https://youtu.be/zvD4lwPoAks
   3. https://youtu.be/zvD4lwPoAks
   4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Harp Sharp etc, on an 11c lute

[Luca Manassero]

I'm a bit wondering about the single strung lute, but the music is
really lovely.

Over here (near Venice) it's the "real" first Fall day (it was very
sunny 'til today) and this music just fits perfectly.

Thank you, Rob

Il 2017-10-18 01:09 Rob MacKillop ha scritto:

> Might be of interest to some here:
> [1]https://youtu.be/zvD4lwPoAks
> Rob MacKillop
>
> --
>
> References
>
> 1. https://youtu.be/zvD4lwPoAks
>
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