[Newbies] Re: Making a wonderland actor respond to keystrokes, not mouseclicks? (was: Beginners questions)

2006-11-08 Thread Jeff
I sent Matthias an email already thanking him for his assistance but I wanted to email the list too, so that people reading here wouldn't think that telling me how to make the copter turn when I click on it actually answered my question. What I'm really trying to do is make it reply to the arrow

Re: [Newbies] Disappointed

2006-11-08 Thread Matthias Berth
Hi Jeff,sorry, in the enthusiasm over having found out something, I totally forgot that you were asking about reactions to key strokes, not mouse clicks :-)Let me give you my 2 cents about your frustrations. Again, I'm just trying to help, so please don't take it personally. - Ask early. I would

Re: [Newbies] Re: Making a wonderland actor respond to keystrokes, not mouseclicks? (was: Beginners questions)

2006-11-08 Thread Roel Wuyts
Hello, I understand the situation from your point of view: you post a question, get an answer which does not exactly solve your problem, and get no more answers after that). It happened to me in the past as well, on other mailinglists. I see two solutions to overcome this problem in the

Re: [Newbies] Re: Making a wonderland actor respond to keystrokes, not mouseclicks? (was: Beginners questions)

2006-11-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Also, in particular when posting over in the experts list (squeak- dev), take this document to heart: http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html - Bert - Am 08.11.2006 um 11:17 schrieb Roel Wuyts: Hello, I understand the situation from your point of view: you post a question,

[Newbies] squeak and the jvm

2006-11-08 Thread Michael Kohout
I suppose this is more of a pie in the sky type question, but with the changes coming to the Java virtual machine in version 7, where the jvm itself provides a more message oriented opcode, has any consideration gone into perhaps porting squeak to run on the jvm? I'm aware of talks2 but it seems

[Newbies] KeyPress On World of Squeak Wonderland (was: Disappointed)

2006-11-08 Thread Ron Teitelbaum
Hi Jeff, Welcome to the beginners list! I appreciate the fact that you are sticking with the problem. That in my opinion is the best way to learn. I didnt answer your question because I do not feel that I am an expert in Wonderland. If the question was something like how can I map a

RE: [Newbies] squeak and the jvm

2006-11-08 Thread Ron Teitelbaum
Hi Michael, There are some really talented people doing some of this now. See: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2006-September/108634 .html But what is even more exciting to me is the Strongtalk VM. The guys that wrote the Java VM first wrote Strongtalk. Sun shelved

[Newbies] Re: squeak and the jvm

2006-11-08 Thread Klaus D. Witzel
Hi Mike, if by more message oriented opcode you mean Gilad Bracha's Invokedynamic opcode - http://www.google.com/search?q=jvm+Invokedynamic this is not sufficient for full Smalltalk/Squeak. Though it may be sufficient for scripting languages (languages in which, usually, types are

Re: [Newbies] squeak and the jvm

2006-11-08 Thread Michael Kohout
Sweet. I've heard of Strongtalk, don't know much about it, but great. But in my humble opinion, if running on the jvm will allow people to use the java libs and allow plugins written in java(thus lowering the barrier of entry for people like me, since we'd no longer have to rebuild the whole

Re: Re: [Newbies] Re: squeak and the jvm

2006-11-08 Thread Michael Haupt
Hi Mike, On 11/8/06, Michael Kohout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, this is what I was referring to. Hotswapping is sort of there for the jvm. When I use Eclipse, it tries to hotswap. Sometimes it fails. Sometimes it doesn't. the HotSwap features of the JVM are fairly constrained when

[Newbies] Re: squeak and the jvm

2006-11-08 Thread Klaus D. Witzel
Hi Mike, on Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:13:17 +0100, you wrote: Yes, this is what I was referring to. Hotswapping is sort of there for the jvm. When I use Eclipse, it tries to hotswap. Sometimes it fails. Sometimes it doesn't. But, referring the criteria in my reply to Ron's email, would loosing

Re: [Newbies] Re: squeak and the jvm

2006-11-08 Thread Michael Kohout
Thanks Klaus. Sodoes #become change the address of what 'after' points to, so these two references now point to the same location in memory, or does it clone what 'before' references and point 'after' to it? Or does it do something more complex? On 11/8/06, Klaus D. Witzel [EMAIL

[Newbies] Re: squeak and the jvm

2006-11-08 Thread Klaus D. Witzel
On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:07:40 +0100, Michael Kohout wrote: Thanks Klaus. Sodoes #become change the address of what 'after' points to, Yes, and vice versa, simultaneously. so these two references now point to the same location in memory, No, but there is a variant of #become: which can

Re: [Newbies] Beginners questions

2006-11-08 Thread Jeff
I've noticed on the list my mailings don't seem to parse correctly. I don't know why that is, but I can't blame you for not being tempted to wade through them. I wouldn't be either. If anyone can tall me how to solve this, I'd appreciate it.Thanks,Jeff --- On Wed 11/08, lanas [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Newbies] Re: Beginners questions

2006-11-08 Thread Klaus D. Witzel
Hi Jeff, this is because you post in the HTML format, in which your messages appears quite nice - http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.beginners/1368 But all these mailing lists are run in plain text mode. So perhaps you switch your mail client to plain text

[Newbies] RE: KeyPress On World of Squeak Wonderland (was: Disappointed)

2006-11-08 Thread Jeff
Thanks Ron,There's some good info. in there. Unfortunately, scene doesn't have respondWith: to: method, but I might be able to find a workaround. One method I was trying to use in the past was to create a script from tiles, and have that script always ticking and just send the helicopter the

Re: [Newbies] Re: squeak and the jvm

2006-11-08 Thread Benjamin Schroeder
On Nov 8, 2006, at 12:43 PM, Klaus D. Witzel wrote: Hi Mike, on Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:13:17 +0100, you wrote: Yes, this is what I was referring to. Hotswapping is sort of there for the jvm. When I use Eclipse, it tries to hotswap. Sometimes it fails. Sometimes it doesn't. But, referring

Re: [Newbies] Beginners questions

2006-11-08 Thread Ned Konz
Jeff wrote: Hello group! I'm hoping that this beginners list is a good place for a beginner to get answers to... well, beginner's questions. And so, with that in mind, I'll ask a few questions. But first, experience has taught me that I should be a little more clear in what I'm looking for

Re: [Newbies] Re: Beginners questions

2006-11-08 Thread Giovanni Corriga
Il giorno mer, 08/11/2006 alle 19.30 +0100, Klaus D. Witzel ha scritto: Hi Jeff, this is because you post in the HTML format, in which your messages appears quite nice - http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.beginners/1368 But all these mailing lists are run