at a given moment.
Best o' luck.
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a case for that functionality being added
to the version of rm included with core utilities on your system.
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On Tue, Jan 02, 2007 at 01:39:02PM +0700, Eko Budiharto wrote:
who said only GNU emacs is everything. Actually, there are other plain
text editors you can use.
I'm a big fan of Vim and SciTE (in that order).
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Of course, I'd only say that (mostly) in jest. I know GNU Emacs works
quite well for some people. For me, however, it falls short of my
needs, precisely because it tries to do everything.
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On Tue, Jan 02, 2007 at 02:32:52PM +, Matt Richards wrote:
OROSZI Balázs wrote:
Emacs and Vim are both braindead.
what do you use as your text editor then?
His bad attitude, I guess.
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but a given pattern, the best way to do it is
usually by using the !~ operator. Thus, if you have a pattern $foo,
this matches that pattern:
exit if $ans =~ m/$foo/i;
. . . while this matches anything but that pattern:
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, considering I just checked the tutorials at PerlMonks
and discovered that, according to split(), ' ' and /\s+/ are exactly the
same. Frankly, I find that a bit surprising.
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On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 08:51:26AM +, Igor Sutton wrote:
2006/12/28, Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
That makes sense, considering I just checked the tutorials at PerlMonks
and discovered that, according to split(), ' ' and /\s+/ are exactly the
same. Frankly, I find that a bit
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 02:01:54AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
Why doesn't perldoc -f split say anything about that? Never mind, I
guess that's a rhetorical question.
Igor just pointed out to me that it is, in fact, in perldoc -f split,
and I just managed to miss it when I looked through
the relevant passage in perldoc -f split after I sent that
message. Please, I know you're all trying to be helpful, but stop
sending me or the list emails quoting perldoc -f split to point out what
I missed the first couple times I checked it.
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) = split ' ', $ln, 2;
Ok, but why? Are they not the same?
No, they're not. ' ' is a literal space. /\s/ matches any whitespace.
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On Wed, Dec 27, 2006 at 07:42:59PM -0500, M. Lewis wrote:
John W. Krahn wrote:
M. Lewis wrote:
while (my $ln = DATA){
chomp $ln;
my ($prod, $flavor) = split /\s/, $ln, 2;
You probably should use ' ' instead
of the other features of the language are, that's really
saying something.
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On Tue, Dec 26, 2006 at 07:27:12PM -0800, Travis Thornhill wrote:
Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Tue, Dec 26, 2006 at 06:59:42PM
-0800, Travis Thornhill wrote:
Try this instead:
our $opt_h;
getopt('h);
That satisfies both the strict pragma and the desire to use a scalar
exactly how you need your file access to
fit into the program.
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Of course, if you're going to call out of the Perl script to the id
utility, you may as well skip the Perl script entirely and just enter
this at the shell prompt:
id -Gn username
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substitute
;
print $1 if `groups $ARGV[0] 2/dev/null` =~ /$ARGV[0]\s*:\s*(.+)/;
According to the manpage for groups on FreeBSD Release 6.1, it's
deprecated in favor of the id utility -- and with the -Gn switches, it
works identically to the groups command. Just thought I'd mention.
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/etc/group (but it won't be identified
as any different from the rest of them).
At least, that's how it works here.
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eliminate a \n in
a printed string by using the -l option in the shebang line. For your
example, though, I guess the \n just adds to the snoopy swearing
appearance that seems to be your aim.
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On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 11:23:15AM +0100, Dr.Ruud wrote:
Chad Perrin schreef:
Dr.Ruud:
TIMTOWTDI. On the shell machines of my provider (FreeBSD) the id
approach will work, and the /etc/group one won't.
I don't think that has anything to do with it being FreeBSD
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 08:08:07AM -0700, Tom Smith wrote:
Yeah, the smiley may have clarified the intentions a little...
. . . or it may have just looked like part of the Perl code.
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On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 03:06:38AM -0800, John W. Krahn wrote:
Chad Perrin wrote:
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 05:28:46PM -0800, John W. Krahn wrote:
Since you are only reading from /etc/group you are not picking up the
primary
group stored in /etc/passwd.
Singling out the primary
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 08:05:05AM -0700, Tom Smith wrote:
Dr.Ruud wrote:
Chad Perrin schreef:
Of course, if you're going to call out of the Perl script to the id
utility, you may as well skip the Perl script entirely and just enter
this at the shell prompt:
id -Gn username
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 10:23:57AM -0500, Robert Hicks wrote:
Chad Perrin wrote:
On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 09:08:11AM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
Learning Perl on Win32 Systems is still being published only because it
sells. It was based on the second edition of Learning Perl, which
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 01:25:01PM -0700, Tom Smith wrote:
Chad Perrin wrote:
That's why I said you may as well either just use the id utility from
the shell if you're not going to grab group memberships in an
idiomatically Perlish way -- the Perl code is likely to be more
portable
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 03:02:04PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
I'm sure that could be made prettier by someone with better Perl mojo
than I have at the moment, and it could be made a bit simpler if all you
want is the gid for each group rather than the group name.
I posted a gid version here
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 06:24:53PM -0800, John W. Krahn wrote:
Chad Perrin wrote:
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 03:02:04PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
I'm sure that could be made prettier by someone with better Perl mojo
than I have at the moment, and it could be made a bit simpler if all you
want
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resource footprint and processor time aren't really a concern.
I guess this is a long-winded way of saying It depends, but what you
did looks okay to me.
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-p -e 's/\r$//' winfile.txt unixfile.txt
so if your script is called foo.pl, it is
# perl -p -e 's/\r$//' foo.pl newfoo.pl
I usually just use the dos2unix utility for that.
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have to give it a try the next time I boot a Windows machine
(which means it may be a few months before I try it out).
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BEGIN failed--compilation aborted.
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of the best books ever written, in any edition, for learning
your way around a new programming language. I recommend it. Ignore the
Win32 version.
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with the concepts.
relevant perldocs:
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perldoc perlintro
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a special case of dynamic local scope that just
usually acts very similarly to lexical scoping.
Hope that helps.
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) and the appearance of these graphs is a bit more pleasing
on the eye.
That's great, as long as you don't mind accessibility issues and
excluding all potential visitors to your site who don't use a Flash
plugin for their browsers. For instance, me.
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' and 'PerlExpress' which I am not comfortable with. Kindly refer
Suja me some good bug free tools.
GNU Emacs is my editor (lifestyle? :) of choice.
We love you anyway. Usually.
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On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 03:44:22AM -0500, Mathew Snyder wrote:
In this line of code what is 'new' doing?
my $users = new RT::Users(RT::SystemUser);
Um . . . instantiating an object?
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from what I've read so far, you
could probably just write an entire program in a Perl module, then use
that module from within an OCaml program, which you can then compile to
a persistent binary executable.
I have a sneaking suspicion it's not that easy, though.
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I rather like Vim, though I suspect you want something . . . else.
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characters that are actually needed. Generally, quotes are there for a
reason, for instance -- so just throwing away smart quotes rather than
replacing them with standard vertical ASCII quotes might not be
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On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 10:35:09AM -0500, Mumia W. wrote:
On 10/05/2006 09:48 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 09:06:11AM -0500, Mumia W. wrote:
Perhaps you could look at the problem in reverse. Strip out all
characters that are not in a certain set; e.g., you might take
::Functions;
find { wanted = sub { print canonpath $_ if /\.pm\z/ }, no_chdir = 1
}, @INC;
(watch the line-wrap)
This recently came up in the PerlMonks chatterbox, too.
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at large, in case it's useful to
more than just the OP.
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Dammit, I accidentally replied to the OP rather than the list (lo these
many hours ago), and only just realized it.
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$x[2]... depending on the result
of the condition test), but that seems clunky. There seems like there
should be a simpler way. Any thoughts? Thanks for any help! - Jen
Do everything without a conditional except those two lines -- do them
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On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 05:37:15PM -0700, chen li wrote:
What is the usage for ? () : and where can I find
more about it?
perldoc perlop
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you are I prefer 6).
I prefer 2, personally. A C library for something like this strikes me
as optimal.
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On Mon, Jul 24, 2006 at 07:35:03PM -0400, Mathew Snyder wrote:
Please lighten up.
How many lumens is that?
(Please don't top-post.)
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. . . shouldn't that be ne instead of eq?
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You could always use while () for that. For instance:
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;
my @foo;
push(@foo, $_) while ();
Then, just call your script with a filename:
$ scriptname filename
There are other ways as well, of course. That's my favorite.
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as with a line that reads
merely:
print @test;
There are other ways to do it as well. TIMTOWTDI.
relevant perldocs:
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perldoc perlrun
perldoc perltrap
perldoc perlvar
perldoc -f join
perldoc -f print
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For the record, my Perl skills are a little weak in a number of areas,
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. for why.
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All fun aside, I have a Perl question, but I have learned not to top
post and NOT to hijack a thread... Thanks to all that have taught me
such.
Thank you.
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? Does anyone have anything to say
about that?
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, as the example loop is written above, are on each iteration
assigned to the $_ scalar variable.
This is especially handy since, if you don't specify a filename, it
defaults back to taking input from the keyboard as though you had used
the STDIN filehandle.
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is that you seem to have used substr()
exactly the way it's meant to be used.
perl -le print substr 'Just another Perl hacker', 0, -2
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with a parser and encrypted to make it difficult to read the
files. I'm afraid I haven't any help to offer, other than suggesting
you get the guy who wrote it to decrypt it for you.
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alignscr.p - am sure that it is a perl code, but am not
able to open it on a vi editor - :(
Have you checked file permissions? It might just be set to read-only
for the user account you're using to try to read it.
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to send it to me, then. I'll see what I can see.
How are you sure it's Perl?
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of unnecessary work, since it basically
involves writing one's own simple DBMS query system, but it would seem
to suit the OP's requirements.
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On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 11:54:46PM -0400, Jeremy Kister wrote:
I wrote a word descrambler that works very well, but is very slow
compared to http://www.jumble.org
Whew. Judging by the subject line, I was worried this was going to turn
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variables. You could even simply have one script call another, and get
output from that other for use as variable data in the script that
called it.
The best way to do it in your case will vary, depending on what
exactly you're doing with your Perl scripts.
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I'm biased:
http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=401006
A perhaps more intuitive URL for the PerlMonks tutorial is this:
http://www.perlmonks.org/?node=quotes+in+Perl
That should help somewhat.
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else
entirely?
I'm afraid your question isn't very clear. I don't even know if I have
the information you actually want -- unless the yes answer to your
yes or no question above is the answer you want.
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something
written by someone else, or write something that makes use of a given
module.
That's probably why. It's certainly the reason that comes to mind for
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it doesn't have any OOP instruction in it. I wasn't
aware there was an official online version of Beginning Perl, though.
Thanks for the URL -- it might come in handy.
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On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 06:39:57PM -0700, chen li wrote:
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Sorry but what I mean is Beginning Perl from
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And BTW I have a hard copy
teach you why that's necessary?
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On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 07:32:57AM -0500, Gomez, Juan wrote:
do you realized this is a perl list?
Maybe he wants to do it in Perl. Of course, it's pretty hard to tell
from that email.
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A script is what you give the actors
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The cpan.org et perlmonks.org are very helpful websites and so is this
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You're quite welcome. Best of luck.
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At a guess, I'd say those two lines indicated that something less than
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subroutines and variables
while ($conscious) {
(refill($pint) next) if empty;
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print I've had . . . , $stomach++, pints;
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print Drunken golf is funner.;
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Whoops.
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was trying to do, and it was
working for him, so it should be working for me. He was right.
I think that pretty much sums it up.
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On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 12:07:42AM -0500, Sumo Wrestler (or just ate too much)
wrote:
Chad Perrin wrote:
[...]
I'm still curious about why exec cgi works for a page generated
entirely by the CGI script, but not for CGI script output that I want to
include in the middle of a page of otherwise
. Aside from asking the list, I'm
also going to try taking a nap.
Thanks in advance for any help.
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content is coming from the CGI script. Is there some specific
difference in behavior between cmd and cgi in this of which I'm not
aware?
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On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 05:00:08PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 06:43:13PM -0400, Ricky Zhou wrote:
For your specific problem, try using !--#include
virtual=/cgi-bin/bar.pl --
How do I go about passing variables to the script via include virtual
without using
) with your next point.
And LPORM couldn't possibly have a successor without being restricted
to adults only (think about ++).
I think I'd buy that. Mmmm, adults-only Perl.
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in newer
editions by a book called Intermediate Perl, which is reportedly
pretty much just a new edition of the same book -- though I haven't
looked through it to double-check that.
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.
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, and $z or $i, $j, and $k.
. . . or $foo, $bar, $baz, and $qux. When you start with foo, pretty
much everyone immediately knows you're using metasyntactic variables for
demonstration purposes.
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that trailing slash is also a typo, And you
really meant this ...
Apologies, Charles, I accidentally sent that off-list. So, resend:
Maybe the capitalization of for and if wasn't a typo -- it might
have been the result of writing code in MS Word with auto-capitalization
turned on.
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get, too. In case it's not:
I'd probably use a while loop with a less-than comparison and a simple
statement that increments by ten inside the loop. As long as I don't
see working code that doesn't look like homework, though, I don't think
I'll offer working code in return.
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On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 07:24:12PM -0400, Mr. Shawn H. Corey wrote:
On Mon, 2006-01-05 at 17:06 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
In other words, I don't think blaming choice of mail client or mail user
agent helps anything, especially since in many cases work conditions may
dictate one's choice
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 08:28:06AM -0400, Ryan Frantz wrote:
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Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 4:37 AM
To: Mr. Shawn H. Corey
Cc: Chad Perrin; beginners@perl.org
Subject: Re: [OT] I give up with the reply-to business
for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training!
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Whoops. I meant to send something to the list, and didn't. Oh well.
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, I think, is the important part of all this.
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of client or MUA.
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