Re: Usenet messages are appearing on beginners@perl.org

2007-06-11 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
kens == kens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: kens The group you are posting to is a Usenet group. Messages posted to kens this group will make your email address visible to anyone on the kens Internet. And Google Groups once again blurs the wrong lines. beginners@perl.org has *never* been a Usenet

Re: Usenet messages are appearing on beginners@perl.org [perl #43141]

2007-06-11 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Mumia == Mumia W mumia.w.18.spam writes: Mumia I apologize to the list owner and everyone else. There are several Mumia news-to-mail gateways that place onto beginners[at]perl.org, and they've been Mumia doing it for at least a year. The problem is on my end. Mumia A few simple additional

Re: Usenet messages are appearing on beginners@perl.org [perl #43141]

2007-06-08 Thread Peter Scott
On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 19:54:16 -0500, Mumia W. wrote: Are you sure that's not nntp.perl.org? Thunderbird says it can't connect to news.perl.org, and nntp.perl.org does not seem to allow posting. You're right. I'm always making that mistake. -- Peter Scott http://www.perlmedic.com/

Re: Usenet messages are appearing on beginners@perl.org [perl #43141]

2007-06-08 Thread Mumia W..
On 06/08/2007 07:57 AM, Peter Scott wrote: On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 19:54:16 -0500, Mumia W. wrote: Are you sure that's not nntp.perl.org? Thunderbird says it can't connect to news.perl.org, and nntp.perl.org does not seem to allow posting. You're right. I'm always making that mistake. No

Re: Usenet messages are appearing on beginners@perl.org [perl #43141]

2007-06-07 Thread Dr.Ruud
Mumia W. schreef: nntp.perl.org does not seem to allow posting. To me it does. I don't know how reliable it is, but I have been posting and follow-upping :) via that server for quite some time now. -- Affijn, Ruud Gewoon is een tijger. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: Usenet messages are appearing on beginners@perl.org

2007-06-07 Thread Mumia W.
On 06/06/2007 11:23 AM, kens wrote: [...] Am I banished forever? Ken Slater Don't worry. No one is banished. There is a configuration problem, and the more I look into it, the more I think it's related to Google. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

Re: Usenet messages are appearing on beginners@perl.org [perl #43141]

2007-06-07 Thread Mumia W.
On 06/07/2007 01:30 AM, Dr.Ruud wrote: Mumia W. schreef: nntp.perl.org does not seem to allow posting. To me it does. I don't know how reliable it is, but I have been posting and follow-upping :) via that server for quite some time now. Yes, I just noticed. Nntp.perl.org seems to impose a

Re: Usenet messages are appearing on beginners@perl.org [perl #43141]

2007-06-07 Thread Mumia W.
On 06/06/2007 11:37 PM, Mumia W. wrote: On 06/06/2007 07:54 PM, Mumia W. wrote: [...] This seems to have started around the 23rd of May. No it didn't. I apologize to the list owner and everyone else. There are several news-to-mail gateways that place onto beginners[at]perl.org, and

Re: Usenet messages are appearing on beginners@perl.org [perl #43141]

2007-06-07 Thread Tom Yarrish
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 7, 2007, at 3:42 AM, Mumia W. wrote: Only part is on my end*. I have to apologize again. I was right the first time. Something of significance with respect to Google Groups and beginners[at] perl.org happened on May 25th. Before May

Re: Usenet messages are appearing on beginners@perl.org [perl #43141]

2007-06-07 Thread Mumia W.
On 06/07/2007 09:27 AM, Tom Yarrish via RT wrote: On Jun 7, 2007, at 3:42 AM, Mumia W. wrote: [...] Before May 25, no messages with an NNTP-Posting-Host header appeared on this list. After May 24, such messages started to appear, and *all* of them have a User-Agent of G2/1.0 (Google

Re: Usenet messages are appearing on beginners@perl.org [perl #43141]

2007-06-07 Thread Brad Baxter
On Jun 7, 4:42 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mumia W.) wrote: I hope that the list managers can stop Google's messages from making it to the mailing list. Personally, I hope not. I'm one of those Luddites who uses Google Groups. I don't have a particular opinion about keeping usenet/mailing lists/

Re: Usenet messages are appearing on beginners@perl.org

2007-06-06 Thread Mumia W.
On 06/05/2007 10:36 PM, Chas Owens wrote: On 6/5/07, Mumia W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A horrible thing has happened recently. Messages from usenet seem to be appearing here. snip Some of the junk that goes on on usenet doesn't need to happen here. snip The method of connecting to the list

Re: Usenet messages are appearing on beginners@perl.org

2007-06-06 Thread Peter Scott
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:03:09 -0500, Mumia W. wrote: A horrible thing has happened recently. Messages from usenet seem to be appearing here. I remember that messages posted to the list were reflected to the newsgroup perl.beginners, but newsgroup posts to perl.beginners didn't seem to

Re: Usenet messages are appearing on beginners@perl.org

2007-06-06 Thread kens
On Jun 6, 9:36 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Scott) wrote: On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:03:09 -0500, Mumia W. wrote: A horrible thing has happened recently. Messages from usenet seem to be appearing here. I remember that messages posted to the list were reflected to the newsgroup

Re: Usenet messages are appearing on beginners@perl.org [perl #43141]

2007-06-06 Thread Mumia W.
On 06/06/2007 08:36 AM, Peter Scott wrote: On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:03:09 -0500, Mumia W. wrote: A horrible thing has happened recently. Messages from usenet seem to be appearing here. I remember that messages posted to the list were reflected to the newsgroup perl.beginners, but newsgroup

Re: Usenet messages are appearing on beginners@perl.org [perl #43141]

2007-06-06 Thread Mumia W.
On 06/06/2007 07:54 PM, Mumia W. wrote: [...] This seems to have started around the 23rd of May. No it didn't. I apologize to the list owner and everyone else. There are several news-to-mail gateways that place onto beginners[at]perl.org, and they've been doing it for at least a year. The

Usenet messages are appearing on beginners@perl.org

2007-06-05 Thread Mumia W.
A horrible thing has happened recently. Messages from usenet seem to be appearing here. I remember that messages posted to the list were reflected to the newsgroup perl.beginners, but newsgroup posts to perl.beginners didn't seem to show up here. Now they do :_( I hope this is just a

Re: Usenet messages are appearing on beginners@perl.org

2007-06-05 Thread Steve Bertrand
Mumia W. wrote: A horrible thing has happened recently. Messages from usenet seem to be appearing here. I remember that messages posted to the list were reflected to the newsgroup perl.beginners, but newsgroup posts to perl.beginners didn't seem to show up here. Now they do :_( I hope

Re: Usenet messages are appearing on beginners@perl.org

2007-06-05 Thread Paul Lalli
On Jun 5, 7:03 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mumia W.) wrote: People who want usenet should subscribe to usenet newsgroups. I shouldn't have to see usenet happen on a mailing list I like. Whoever is in charge, I implore you to change the configuration of the maillist so that these usenet message

Re: Usenet messages are appearing on beginners@perl.org

2007-06-05 Thread Chas Owens
On 6/5/07, Mumia W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A horrible thing has happened recently. Messages from usenet seem to be appearing here. snip Some of the junk that goes on on usenet doesn't need to happen here. snip The method of connecting to the list shouldn't matter. We have standards of