Prednisone vs. Imuran??

2002-11-17 Thread Jessi McCabe
Does anyone have any experience with Imuran vs. Prednisone for the treatment of IMPA (Immune Mediated PolyArthritis)?? If so, what have your experiences been with the two drugs... ie, what side effects have you noticed, both good and bad, with either drug? How do these compare with NH? (Natural

Re: Vicky and Major/Boy Problems

2002-11-17 Thread BernerFolk
In a message dated 11/16/2002 1:12:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And, exactly what, pray tell, does one do if all's NOT tucked back in place??? Why, set things right...of course! -Sherri V. ;-}

Re: re; Bloemart's

2002-11-17 Thread BernerFolk
In a message dated 11/16/2002 7:56:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If this is what backyard breeders are producing, then bring them on. Are you volunteering to counsel the folks who buy their 'wonderful' dogs and rescue/rehome them when they're 18 months old,

AVID) .. for reasons already mentioned. .. if

2002-11-17 Thread matthews
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RE: Vicky and Major/Boy Problems

2002-11-17 Thread Nancy Melone
Just to add to this -- KY Jelly, let's say, facilitates the process a bit. I am sure that my pharmacist must think I am in business for myself with all the KY jelly I buy! Golly, I can't really tell him its for the dog or I would likely get thrown in jail. Nancy Melone -Original Message-

Just Hello and Update

2002-11-17 Thread Bernesemoutain2
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Birth announcement

2002-11-17 Thread Imbrich
Sennehhof Belline Sennenhof Dursli proudly announce the birth of 5 boys and 4 girls 16 November 2002 HOORAY Linda Seaver Eve Menegoz (posted by Betsy Rich for a presently computer-less Linda Seaver)

What does BISS mean?

2002-11-17 Thread Tracey Conner
Pardon my ignorance ... Bu, What does BISS mean? I'm guessing it relates to some sort of Champion-like title. Thanks, Tracey

Re: What does BISS mean?

2002-11-17 Thread Mary-Ann Bowman
Best in Specialty Show Mary-Ann

Stud Book and other options

2002-11-17 Thread Sharon Montville
I didn't get a digest yesterday and based on some of the replies in the one I just got (which is squentially numbered after the one I got on Friday) I would guess maybe some posts didn't get into the digest. In regard to Renee looking for the Annual Stud Book - the AKC publishes a list of first

Re: Bloemart's

2002-11-17 Thread Sharon Montville
I recently saw one of their puppies at the International show last weekend, and was envious at the quality of this puppy. He was VERY nice, well bred, with good structure and outstanding temperment. If this is what backyard breeders are producing, then bring them on.it's a damned sight

rescue in california

2002-11-17 Thread Andrea Brin
what groups are likely to know of berners needing rooming in california? is anyone active in rescue there? andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/

ACL surgery

2002-11-17 Thread Danielle Nanney
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Re: ACL surgery

2002-11-17 Thread Mary-Ann Bowman
Emma had the same symptoms and ACL surgery was recommended -- she was seven. I elected to try crate rest first and did that for about two weeks -- and I mean in the crate except for potty breaks. She did not have the surgery and is now back to her usual self with no recurring problem. Mary-Ann

RE: KY Jelly -- Vickey her Boy

2002-11-17 Thread Nancy Melone
The packaging on my recently purchased tubes of KY Jelly say: This product is not a contraceptive and does not contain a spermacide. Nancy Melone ...KY Jelly now has bacteriacides in it which make it somewhat Spermicidal. DON'T use it in a breeding context! Sherri V.

Re: Looking for a Flint River distributor on the list.

2002-11-17 Thread Jennifer Popp
Ray Burgett is a FRR distributor and he's on this list. Ray Pat Burgett Eaglecap Bernese [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.goodbernerfood.com Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca Toronto, Ontario (Canada) 416-264-1313 / email: [EMAIL

Re: re; Bloemart's

2002-11-17 Thread Jennifer Popp
I'd like to think that was an attempt at humour. Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca Toronto, Ontario (Canada) 416-264-1313 / email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message -

Re: KY Jelly -- Vickey her Boy

2002-11-17 Thread BernerFolk
In a message dated 11/17/2002 1:14:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The packaging on my recently purchased tubes of KY Jelly say: This product is not a contraceptive and does not contain a spermacide. My warning came from a Dr.Robt. Hutchison seminar I attended

Re: BERNER-L digest 4125

2002-11-17 Thread THOMAS SLIDER
Had to jump in on this one. This does not sound like the Laurie I came to know very well at the 2002 specialty!!! And...Vicky does not know what to do??? For goodness sake, she lives in the wildlife state of the union with all those wildcats, bears, and mountain

Poopology

2002-11-17 Thread Marie-France St-Pierre
Well, I just had a funny thought... When I dreamed of having my own berner, I never imagined I would become a poopologist and watch the firmness of my puppy's poop with an eagle eye after a diarhhea scare. Marie (mom and poopologist) and Pistache

odd dog behavior help

2002-11-17 Thread Sweattees
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CAUTION: Internet ads

2002-11-17 Thread Sharon Montville
In checking out the recent internet advertisers, I have found a new crop of less knowledgeable breeders out there. You know they are bad, when you offer educational information in a non-judgemental manner, and they are simply resentful of the intrusion. Now, more than ever: do not pay one cent

Re: CAUTION: Internet ads

2002-11-17 Thread Mary-Ann Bowman
And it is not just internet breeders who might be less than scrupulous. Just because someone talks a good line on the berner-l, for example, does not mean that s/he is an informed/ethical breeder. Check clearances! Ask for copies of certificates and run fast in the opposite direction if you hear

Female Incontenence

2002-11-17 Thread jesse shelley gonzales
My 7 year old girl was spayed just over a year ago. She occassionally will piddle when I scold her or if I want to groom her or even when I give her a belly rub. I checked with my vet and she does not have a UTI or any other illness. We discussed age/spay related incontenence and she prescribed

Unsubscribe request

2002-11-17 Thread Kathy Boyce
Please unsubscribe me temporarily. Will be moving and changing ISPs. --- Kathy Boyce --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

New Stuffed Berner

2002-11-17 Thread Coral and David Denis
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RE: Female Incontenence

2002-11-17 Thread Patricia McIlveen
Shelley, This what I found on DES when I looked into it. The information is from DES Action Canada (a lobby group for those exposed); the law firm Feldman Rifkin and the Canadian Government Health Site, all of which agreed on the % greater risk of cancer in those women who took DES prior to

Annie's post mortem

2002-11-17 Thread Liz Bradbury
The results of Annie's PM finally came back last week - took ages this time, but it was pretty thorough. She died of heart failure -she had myocardial oedema, which is water in the actual muscle tissue And because heart failure cells were found in the lungs, it is reckoned that she had been in

RE: xrays etc.

2002-11-17 Thread Benjamin Brainard
hi... are you wanting xrays because you are interested in breeding? or are you just wanting to see what's going on with his hips? If you are interested in breeding, Penn-hip is the only hip evaluation system that would be appropriate for long-term prospects of hip disease, given his age. If

Re: Poopology

2002-11-17 Thread BernerFrog
I know how you feel! Even our friends are asking how Maggie's poop is!! Karen (fellow poopologist) Maggie (pooper) - Original Message - From: Marie-France St-Pierre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'maria' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday,

Re: Female Incontenence--DES in humans

2002-11-17 Thread Brnrmom
I dunno, but I sure would be just a little hesitant to accept unquestioned any medical advice quoted from a law firm especially one that admits it makes big bucks suing over DES cases (or McDonalds hot coffee or whatever the case of the week is.) Hconflict of interest, anyone? :-)

Philly dog show results?

2002-11-17 Thread VetTec4BMD
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Sorry - dumb question

2002-11-17 Thread david and sandra ongemach
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Re: Female Incontenence

2002-11-17 Thread Janice Parky
I had a female Collie in my pre-Berner days who was spayed at 6 months and by the time she was a year old, was experiencing spay related incontinence. She was put on DES. I was able to wean the original dose, which I cannot remember, down to one dose per month. She lived to age 13 and had no

Re: Female Incontenence--DES in humans

2002-11-17 Thread Jeff Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners
Hey Vilma, Don't make fun of the Mc Donalds coffee lawsuit attorney!: ) He lives in San Francisco. He contacted me for a puppy then later I called him about trouble I was having with my son's school and to my surprise instead of just giving me advice he took care of it for us free of

Re: KY Jelly -- Vickey her Boy

2002-11-17 Thread Sharon Montville
...KY Jelly now has bacteriacides in it which make it somewhat spermicidal. DON'T use it in a breeding context! Furthermore, I have even heard that AI equipment should be rinsed with distilled water - NOT chlorinated tap water. Fertility can be a fragile thing. Unless we're talking about

Re: breeders and scam (was guarantees/contracts)

2002-11-17 Thread david and sandra ongemach
Sorry to get back to you so late - have been out of state at a 3 day show circuit. Possibly this is where the PPO's must take it on their own to educate Themselves before jumping in a sinkhole. I personally NEVER take a deposit until I have a puppy available for you. I do not feel it is

Re: Female Incontenence

2002-11-17 Thread Bernersrit
In a message dated 11/17/2002 5:24:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We discussed age/spay related incontenence and she prescribed Proin. My understanding that this is the same product (formerly names DES I believe)that was given to pregnant women years ago and whose

RE: Philly Show Results

2002-11-17 Thread Pat Long Paul Dangel
Maria, That's exactly how my book is marked, thank you for posting the results. And thank you for spending time at the show talking to people and helping to educate. I can't thank all of the exhibitors enough, it's a very long weekend, and everyone who is there deserves a round of applause -

Re: Sorry - dumb question -Dog show definitions

2002-11-17 Thread Gail Miller
http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/karyn/dogshowterms.html This site looks pretty good to explain dog show definitions. Gail Miller Cynosure Bernese in Arkansas [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: david and sandra ongemach [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday,

RE: Female Incontenence--DES in humans

2002-11-17 Thread Patricia McIlveen
I agree Vilma, which is why I specifically stated that all my sources (which I cited) agreed on the 30% increase in risk of mammary cancers for users of DES. I could only use a survey of sources I had access to at the time to educate myself; the more agreements I find between sources the more I

RE: Sorry - dumb question

2002-11-17 Thread Pat Long Paul Dangel
-Original Message- From: sandra ongemach Would someone send out the website address where I can send people to find what all the definitions mean ... is there a simple address I can pass on to the novices trying to learn how to read a pedigree, etc.

RE: Philly Show Results

2002-11-17 Thread Andrea Brin
how do we find out their owners? andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/

Re: Philly Show Results

2002-11-17 Thread Maria Crifasi
Decade's Shore Thing: Joseph and Christine glazer Gina Nini Trevi's Prime contender: Barbara Ann Bych Lewa's Zero Gravity - Debbie and Bill Hamilton Trevi's Call of the Wild - Barbara Ann Bych October The Drake V Tullysky - Jennifer Hoffnagle Keilissa's Feature Presentation - LeeAnn Ashley

Re: Female Incontinence

2002-11-17 Thread VetTec4BMD
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Re: Female Incontenence--DES in humans

2002-11-17 Thread Brnrmom
Mary, How can I possibly NOT make fun of the Mc Donalds hot coffee lawsuit!? It is a parody of itself! The lawyer may or may not be a nice guy, but if you are stupid enough to put hot coffee in between your legs and drive off, too badif you wanted it cold you should have ordered a Diet

BMDCC Specialty Results from my catalog???

2002-11-17 Thread Lisa Ebnet
Here are the results from my catalog if you want to use them...only missing a few. Tentative? Jr Sweeps Jr Puppy males 26 Ebnet's Yaro 113 CH Susa's Fifty Two Pick-up 25 Allsgold's Smoking Gun 22 Demitra's Deshka v Southwind Sr Puppy male 28 Classique's Wishbone 12 to 18

RE: AKC Titles Website

2002-11-17 Thread Nancy Melone
The following website will allow people to look up prefix or suffix titles. These are presented as alphabetical lists. It does not include OFA or GDC or CERF. www.akc.org/dic/events/titles.cfm Nancy Melone

Thanks -

2002-11-17 Thread david and sandra ongemach
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Puppy Pics

2002-11-17 Thread Ray Pat Burgett
Pictures of the Eaglecap puppies at 5 weeks of age are now on the WebPages. All right already! , I never professed to being a photographer but practice makes perfect. Ray Pat Burgett Eaglecap Bernese Talee,Lexi,Boomer,Bell Max www.goodbernerfood.com http://users.eoni.com/~eaglecap/

RE: BMDCA question; staying in touch

2002-11-17 Thread cpete
Hi, Mary-Ann, I am a long time reader but this is my first time contributor to the L. It is through my own negligence that I am not a member of BMDCA, Two local clubs keep me busy, but you're right, no responsible breeder should be without the guidance of the Mother Club. I do have several