Does anyone have any experience with Imuran vs. Prednisone for the
treatment of IMPA (Immune Mediated PolyArthritis)??
If so, what have your experiences been with the two drugs... ie, what
side effects have you noticed, both good and bad, with either drug?
How do these compare with NH? (Natural
In a message dated 11/16/2002 1:12:41 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And, exactly what, pray tell, does one do if all's NOT tucked back in
place???
Why, set things right...of course!
-Sherri V. ;-}
In a message dated 11/16/2002 7:56:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If this is what backyard breeders are producing, then bring them
on.
Are you volunteering to counsel the folks who buy their 'wonderful' dogs and
rescue/rehome them when they're 18 months old,
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Just to add to this -- KY Jelly, let's say, facilitates the process a bit.
I am sure that my pharmacist must think I am in business for myself with all
the KY jelly I buy! Golly, I can't really tell him its for the dog or I
would likely get thrown in jail.
Nancy Melone
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Sennehhof Belline
Sennenhof Dursli
proudly announce the birth of 5 boys and 4 girls
16 November 2002
HOORAY
Linda Seaver Eve Menegoz
(posted by Betsy Rich for a presently computer-less Linda Seaver)
Pardon my ignorance ... Bu, What does BISS mean? I'm guessing it relates
to some sort of Champion-like title.
Thanks,
Tracey
Best in Specialty Show
Mary-Ann
I didn't get a digest yesterday and based on some of
the replies in the one I just got (which is
squentially numbered after the one I got on Friday) I
would guess maybe some posts didn't get into the
digest.
In regard to Renee looking for the Annual Stud Book -
the AKC publishes a list of first
I recently saw one of their puppies at the
International show last weekend, and was envious at
the quality of this puppy. He was VERY nice, well
bred, with good structure and outstanding
temperment.
If this is what backyard breeders are producing,
then bring them on.it's a damned sight
what groups are likely to know of berners needing rooming in california? is
anyone active in rescue there?
andrea, woofit and chi
shavertown, pa
http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
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Emma had the same symptoms and ACL surgery was recommended -- she was seven.
I elected to try crate rest first and did that for about two weeks -- and I
mean in the crate except for potty breaks. She did not have the surgery and
is now back to her usual self with no recurring problem.
Mary-Ann
The packaging on my recently purchased tubes of KY Jelly say:
This product is not a contraceptive and does not contain a spermacide.
Nancy Melone
...KY Jelly now has bacteriacides in it which make it somewhat Spermicidal.
DON'T use it in a breeding context!
Sherri V.
Ray Burgett is a FRR distributor and he's on this list.
Ray Pat Burgett Eaglecap Bernese
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.goodbernerfood.com
Jenn Popp
Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet
http://www.healthy-paws.ca
Toronto, Ontario (Canada)
416-264-1313 / email: [EMAIL
I'd like to think that was an attempt at humour.
Jenn Popp
Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet
http://www.healthy-paws.ca
Toronto, Ontario (Canada)
416-264-1313 / email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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In a message dated 11/17/2002 1:14:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The packaging on my recently purchased tubes of KY Jelly say:
This product is not a contraceptive and does not contain a spermacide.
My warning came from a Dr.Robt. Hutchison seminar I attended
Had to jump in on this one.
This does not sound like the Laurie I came to know very well at the 2002 specialty!!!
And...Vicky does not know what to do??? For goodness sake, she lives in the
wildlife state of the union with all those wildcats, bears, and mountain
Well, I just had a funny thought...
When I dreamed of having my own berner, I never imagined I would become
a poopologist and watch the firmness of my puppy's poop with an eagle
eye after a diarhhea scare.
Marie (mom and poopologist) and Pistache
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In checking out the recent internet advertisers, I
have found a new crop of less knowledgeable breeders
out there. You know they are bad, when you offer
educational information in a non-judgemental manner,
and they are simply resentful of the intrusion.
Now, more than ever: do not pay one cent
And it is not just internet breeders who might be less than scrupulous.
Just because someone talks a good line on the berner-l, for example, does
not mean that s/he is an informed/ethical breeder. Check clearances! Ask for
copies of certificates and run fast in the opposite direction if you hear
My 7 year old girl was spayed just over a year ago. She occassionally will
piddle when I scold her or if I want to groom her or even when I give her a
belly rub. I checked with my vet and she does not have a UTI or any other
illness. We discussed age/spay related incontenence and she prescribed
Please unsubscribe me temporarily. Will be moving and changing ISPs.
--- Kathy Boyce
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Shelley,
This what I found on DES when I looked into it. The information is from
DES Action Canada (a lobby group for those exposed); the law firm
Feldman Rifkin and the Canadian Government Health Site, all of which
agreed on the % greater risk of cancer in those women who took DES prior
to
The results of Annie's PM finally came back last week - took ages
this time, but it was pretty thorough.
She died of heart failure -she had myocardial oedema, which is water
in the actual muscle tissue And because heart failure cells were
found in the lungs, it is reckoned that she had been in
hi... are you wanting xrays because you are interested in breeding? or are
you just wanting to see what's going on with his hips? If you are interested
in breeding, Penn-hip is the only hip evaluation system that would be
appropriate for long-term prospects of hip disease, given his age. If
I know how you feel! Even our friends are asking how Maggie's poop is!!
Karen (fellow poopologist) Maggie (pooper)
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From: Marie-France St-Pierre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'maria' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List'
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday,
I dunno, but I sure would be just a little hesitant to accept unquestioned
any medical advice quoted from a law firm especially one that admits it
makes big bucks suing over DES cases (or McDonalds hot coffee or whatever the
case of the week is.) Hconflict of interest, anyone? :-)
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I had a female Collie in my pre-Berner days who was spayed at 6 months and
by the time she was a year old, was experiencing spay related incontinence.
She was put on DES. I was able to wean the original dose, which I cannot
remember, down to one dose per month. She lived to age 13 and had no
Hey Vilma,
Don't make fun of the Mc Donalds coffee lawsuit attorney!: )
He lives in San Francisco.
He contacted me for a puppy then later I called him about trouble I was
having with my son's school and to my surprise instead of just giving me
advice he took care of it for us free of
...KY Jelly now has bacteriacides in it which make
it somewhat spermicidal.
DON'T use it in a breeding context!
Furthermore, I have even heard that AI equipment
should be rinsed with distilled water - NOT
chlorinated tap water.
Fertility can be a fragile thing. Unless we're
talking about
Sorry to get back to you so late - have been out of state at a 3 day show
circuit.
Possibly this is where the PPO's must take it on their own to educate
Themselves before jumping in a sinkhole.
I personally NEVER take a deposit until I have a puppy available for you. I
do not feel it is
In a message dated 11/17/2002 5:24:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We discussed age/spay related incontenence and she prescribed
Proin. My understanding that this is the same product (formerly names DES I
believe)that was given to pregnant women years ago and whose
Maria,
That's exactly how my book is marked, thank you for posting the results.
And thank you for spending time at the show talking to people and
helping to educate.
I can't thank all of the exhibitors enough, it's a very long weekend,
and everyone who is there deserves a round of applause -
http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/karyn/dogshowterms.html
This site looks pretty good to explain dog show definitions.
Gail Miller
Cynosure Bernese in Arkansas
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From: david and sandra ongemach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday,
I agree Vilma, which is why I specifically stated that all my sources
(which I cited) agreed on the 30% increase in risk of mammary cancers
for users of DES. I could only use a survey of sources I had access to
at the time to educate myself; the more agreements I find between
sources the more I
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From: sandra ongemach
Would someone send out the website address where I can send people to
find what all the definitions mean ...
is there a simple address I can pass on to the novices trying to learn
how to read a pedigree, etc.
how do we find out their owners?
andrea, woofit and chi
shavertown, pa
http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
Decade's Shore Thing: Joseph and Christine glazer Gina Nini
Trevi's Prime contender: Barbara Ann Bych
Lewa's Zero Gravity - Debbie and Bill Hamilton
Trevi's Call of the Wild - Barbara Ann Bych
October The Drake V Tullysky - Jennifer Hoffnagle
Keilissa's Feature Presentation - LeeAnn Ashley
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Mary,
How can I possibly NOT make fun of the Mc Donalds hot coffee lawsuit!? It is
a parody of itself! The lawyer may or may not be a nice guy, but if you are
stupid enough to put hot coffee in between your legs and drive off, too
badif you wanted it cold you should have ordered a Diet
Here are the results from my catalog if you want to use them...only missing
a few. Tentative?
Jr Sweeps
Jr Puppy males
26 Ebnet's Yaro
113 CH Susa's Fifty Two Pick-up
25 Allsgold's Smoking Gun
22 Demitra's Deshka v Southwind
Sr Puppy male
28 Classique's Wishbone
12 to 18
The following website will allow people to look up prefix or suffix titles.
These are presented as alphabetical lists. It does not include OFA or GDC or
CERF.
www.akc.org/dic/events/titles.cfm
Nancy Melone
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Pictures of the Eaglecap puppies at 5 weeks of age are now on the WebPages.
All right already! , I never professed to being a photographer but
practice makes perfect.
Ray Pat Burgett Eaglecap Bernese
Talee,Lexi,Boomer,Bell Max
www.goodbernerfood.com
http://users.eoni.com/~eaglecap/
Hi, Mary-Ann, I am a long time reader but this is my first time contributor
to the L. It is through my own negligence that I am not a member of BMDCA,
Two local clubs keep me busy, but you're right, no responsible breeder
should be without the guidance of the Mother Club. I do have several
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