[bess] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage-00.txt

2020-08-03 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled ServiceS WG of the IETF. Title : BGP Usage for SDWAN Overlay Networks Authors : Linda Dunbar James Guichard

Re: [bess] Thought about "Application Routing" in draft-dunbar-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage

2020-08-03 Thread Joel M. Halpern
This wording is better. there are still two aspects where I think we can be clearer. First, referring to generic packet forwarding and only later saying "we mean tunnel selection" is still prone to confusing readers and prone to confusing discussions of our intent later when folks use this

Re: [bess] Thought about "Application Routing" in draft-dunbar-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage

2020-08-03 Thread Linda Dunbar
Joel, How about this statement? -Some traffic flows can be forwarded based on their application identifiers instead of based on destination IP addresses, by the edge nodes placing the traffic flows onto specific overlay paths based on their application requirement. It is more

Re: [bess] Thought about "Application Routing" in draft-dunbar-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage

2020-08-03 Thread Joel Halpern Direct
The way you are wording that third bullet, it looks like it is expecting the network (past the SD-WAN edges) to be looking for application identifiers in making the packet forwarding decisions. Is what you are looking for: Selection of tunnels to be used for traffic subsets based on

Re: [bess] Thought about "Application Routing" in draft-dunbar-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage

2020-08-03 Thread Linda Dunbar
Adrian and Joel, Thank you very much for the suggestions. I have updated the description per your suggested wording: Here are some key characteristics of “SDWAN” networks: - Augment of transport, which refers to utilizing overlay paths over different underlay networks. Very often

Re: [bess] IPSec Tunnels and draft-sajassi-bess-secure-evpn

2020-08-03 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Sue and authors, To be clear, and John/Ali can chime in too, what I think we are saying is: * people use RFC8365 as the reference to implement EVPN for VXLAN, VXLAN GPE, NVGRE and MPLS-in-GRE. * RFC8365 uses the encapsulation extended community described in section 4.1 of the