Hi folks,
I have some questions on EVPN, would you kindly help to get an answer?
Here are the questions:
1)The PBB EVPN per RFC7623 is defined in MPLS network only.
and it seems that the PBB EVPN in VXLAN network or SRv6 network is not
defined yet,
so my question is how
Thanks for your explanations.
So the extensions is based on GENEVE and RFC8317,
Glad to see your working on EVPN extensions for GENEVE in the future.
I have mixed GENEVE with VXLAN, and I didn't see a leaf-label extension in
GENEVE, so I asked the question.
I get the point now,
Best
Thanks for your explanations.
So the extensions is based on GENEVE and RFC8317,
Glad to see your working on EVPN extensions for GENEVE in the future.
I have mixed GENEVE with VXLAN, and I didn't see a leaf-label extension in
GENEVE, so I asked the question.
I get the point now,
Best
Thanks for your explanations.
So the extensions is based on GENEVE and RFC8317,
Glad to see your working on EVPN extensions for GENEVE in the future.
I have mixed GENEVE with VXLAN, and I didn't see a leaf-label extension in
GENEVE, so I asked the question.
I get the point now,
Best
Thanks for your explanations.
So the extensions is based on GENEVE and RFC8317,
Glad to see your working on EVPN extensions for GENEVE in the future.
I have mixed GENEVE with VXLAN, and I didn't see a leaf-label extension in
GENEVE, so I asked the question.
I get the point now,
Best
Hi Adrian,
Thanks for your detailed specification!O(∩_∩)O~ Your reply is exactly
what I want to express.
I suggest to define a B flag for the SRP in PCInitiate message too. Hope
PCE-GMPLS draft could take it into consideration.
And thanks Dhruv for the help!O(∩_∩)O~
Best Regards,
Quan
Thanks for your explanations.
So the extensions is based on GENEVE and RFC8317,
Glad to see your working on EVPN extensions for GENEVE in the future.
I have mixed GENEVE with VXLAN, and I didn't see a leaf-label extension in
GENEVE, so I asked the question.
I get the point now,
Best
Hi Adrian,
Thanks for your detailed specification!O(∩_∩)O~ Your reply is exactly
what I want to express.
I suggest to define a B flag for the SRP in PCInitiate message too. Hope
PCE-GMPLS draft could take it into consideration.
And thanks Dhruv for the help!O(∩_∩)O~
Best Regards,
Quan
Hi Jorge,
Thank you very much for your help.
I am still not sure about my understanding about Question 2.
Please see if my understanding is correct.
> Question 2:
>
> RFC 7623 6.2.2.1. says that:
>
> In the case where per-I-SID load-balancing is desired among
Hi Jorge,
I read the draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework-08 and find it seemed not
clear in the DF election FSM .
I didn't find clear explanation about when to advertise the ES route(RT-4)
according to the FSM.
I think it is the DF_TIMER (not ES_UP) event that triggers the
Hi Jorge,
I am not sure about my understanding about modulus-based DF Alg with AC-DF=1.
I think the modulus is per VLAN basis in the usecase, which means that each
VLAN has an independent modulus and an independent candidate list.
Is that right?
It is described in
I agree with you with that it is literally clear in RFC7432.
So the DF timer in RFC7432 and draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework is
the same timer,
And it's only used to collect the remote routes for the same ES (but delay the
usage of them) ,
So the timer is not used in the
Hi everyone,
1) I think the choice node named "ac-or-pw" gives up the probability to support
vES and I-ESI
+--rw ethernet-segments
+--rw ethernet-segment* [name]
+--rw (ac-or-pw)?
| +--:(ac)
| | +--rw ac*
Hi Muthu,
Please see in line with the label "[Bob]".
Regards,
Bob
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主 题 :Re: [bess] EVPN Multihoming and Symmetric IRB
Hi Bob,
Thanks for your response. Please see
Hi everyone,
I reviewed the draft-09 of RFC 8584 a few days ago, and found that the DF
Election FSM can't work well after the ES goes UP for the second time.
I described it in detail in this mail:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/9fK2HHdish3b5Hosa5ZU4NKwX7o
And I think the
Hi everyone,
I reviewed the draft-09 of RFC 8584 a few days ago, and found that the DF
Election FSM can't work well after the ES goes UP for the second time.
I described it in detail in this mail:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/9fK2HHdish3b5Hosa5ZU4NKwX7o
And I think the
Hi Yang Huang,
It is clear that the received ORIP (Originating Router's IP in IMET route)
technically can't be used to construct P2P tunnel for ingress replication as it
is pointed out by Jorge , especially in the Option B usecase.
But when the BGP next hop and the PMSI tunnel
Hi Ali and everyone,
I reviewed the [EVPN IP Aliasing] draft and found that it conflicts with
draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05 in MPLS encapsulation.
draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-ip-aliasing-00 section 2.1 Constructing Ethernet A-D
per EVPN Instance Route
... ...
Hi all,
I find some conflicting rules about interface-to-VRF binding between
draft-ietf-rtgwg-ni-model-12 and draft-ietf-bess-l2vpn-yang-09.txt.
It is as below:
RULE1: [NI-model] Section 3.2 says that:
The bind-network-instance-name leaf provides the association between an
Hi Muthu and everyone else,
The IP Aliasing in Symmetric IRB is described in
draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-ip-aliasing-00 .
It works well for each local host learned on the IRB interface.
I think when the IRB interface itself is configured with an anycast Gateway
IP-address for its
Hi all,
I find some conflicting rules about interface-to-VRF binding between RFC8529
and draft-ietf-bess-l2vpn-yang-09.txt.
Thanks Acee for reminding me to check the changes in the new version of these
documents.
And I update the original mail as below after the checking:
Hi Jorge,
The ND refresh message is assumed to be a NS message with its Sender's IP =
Link Local Address in section 4.4 of draft-ietf-bess-evpn-proxy-arp-nd-08.
An ARP refresh issued by the PE will be an ARP-Request message
with the Sender's IP = 0 sent from the
Hi authors,
I reviewed the draft and I have a question on the endpoint with the choice of
"ac" case.
When we configure the "ac" case of the "endpoint" node according to this draft,
is it still necessary or not for us to configure the
"bind-network-instance-name" leaf of the
Hi Jeffrey,
Sorry for the delaying.
Please see [Bob2] below.
Thanks,
Bob
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Hi Jeffrey,
Maybe I was confused by the last mail.
Let's discuss it on the basis of the text of the [EVPN Virtual Hub] draft.
In section 7.1, it says that:
In case of IR with MPLS
unicast tunnels, VH1 must advertise different labels to different
PEs, so
Hi Jeffrey and Sasha,
The flows of E-tree services typically are P2MP conections,
But the flows of hub/spoke services typically are MP2MP connections,
the spoke PEs can connect to each other under the assistance of the hub PE.
The hub/spoke services is actually a special pattern of
Hi Jeffrey,
In the following text:
… In case of IR with MPLS unicast tunnels, VH1 must advertise different
labels to different PEs, so that it can identify the sending PE based on the
label in the traffic from a V-spoke.
That “different labels o” should be changed to
Hi Jeffrey,
Thanks for your clearifications.
So the EVPN label reiceived from VH1 by a V-Spoke is not only an
upstream-assigned but also a downstream-assigned?
So, what value will the tunnel-type of PTA be assigned to? Ingress-Replication?
Assisted-Replication? P2MP?
The
Please se in line.
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inEVPN:RFC8317vs.draft-wang-bess-evpn-context-label-04
Hi Bob,
Hi Ali and Sami,
I read the list of your discussions in the mail list, and I have some
understandings on the topic.
I hope these understandings can be helpful to move the discussion further.
I think the "PBB EVPN over SRv6 underlay" solution will be complex, if we
address too
Hello All,
I submitted a draft to propose an approach to improve EVPN high scalability,
faster network convergence, and reduced operational complexity, we call it
light-weighted EVPNs because of these advantages.
The newest update of it can be found at
Hi Jorge,
I still don't agree that the procedures on Leaf-5 are already in
draft-ietf-bess-evpn-prefix-advertisement-11.
Note that the key of RT1 route is , not just .
Take the DGW1 of the Bump-in-the-wire use case for example,
If the DGW1 receives a RT-5 route R5 (IPL=24,
Hi Jorge,
In our discussion in another thread, we discussed two types ot the use cases of
draft-ietf-bess-evpn-prefix-advertisement,
They are the GW-IP as overlay index use cases (just let me call them
GW-IP-Style use-cases for short) and the Bump-in-the-wire use case.
I think it is
Hi Jorge,
I don't agree with you for that the recursive resolution for such ESI overlay
index is already there.
Current recursive resolution is very different from such ESI overlay index.
Please see in-line with [Yubao].
Thanks,
Yubao
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Hi Jorge,
Thank you for your email.
I know that EVPN application will pick up one.
But my question is how can you make sure that the exact one in your expectation
will be picked out?
Other scenarios just need to pick up one for all RT-2 routes that refers to
that ESI,
but the
Hi Jorge and Vinayak,
I don't understand this use case of RFC9136 very well either,
because when a BD of VLAN-aware bundle EVI is used in Bump-in-the-wire use case,
I don't sure how the IP prefixes routes are recursively rosolved.
I hope to share my understandings to help to make
Hi Jorge,
please see in-line with [Yubao2]
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主 题 :Re: Questions on draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-ip-aliasing-03
Hi Yubao,
Please see in-line.
Thanks.
Jorge
Hi Jorge,
Please see in-line with [yubao].
Thanks
Yubao
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主 题 :Re: Re:Comments on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-prefix-advertisement and
Hi Jorge,
Please see my comments with [Yubao3].
Thanks
Yubao
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Hi Yubao,
Please see my
Hi Jorge,
Please see in-line with [yubao].
Thanks
Yubao
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Hi Jorge,
Thanks for your response.
If the use case b's route advertisement details are clearly described, It will
not be confusing just because of what it is called.
It is confusing just because its own RT-5 route advertisement is not clear
while the refered route advertisement and
Hi Jorge,
I read the draft, and have the following questions:
1) on section 1.2 Inter-subnet Forwarding for Prefix Routes in the
Interface-less IP-VRF-to-IP-VRF Model
The RT-1 per EVI route of ESI1 in Figure 2 is not an IP A-D per EVI route,
but a normal Ethernet
Hi Eduard,
I am not saying that the mass-withdraw for single-homed ES don't have any
benifits.
What I have noticed is that when we extend a mass-withdraw feature for
single-homed ES,
the route resolution for zero ESI RT-2 can not be simply updated,
if those updates would exclude current
Hi Vinayak,
The Bump-in-the-wire with a VLAN-aware BD is just slightly implied in the
terminlogy section of RFC9136.
It is not mentioned in the main body of RFC9136.
So a few critical details are still absent, while there may be already
different implementations up to now,
I think
Hi Eduard,
I don't think an Ethernet A-D per ES route with a zero ESI is better to use,
Because each single-homed CE is an individual ES,
that's why MAC mobility happens between two zero ESIs (for different
single-homed ethernet segments)
but not happens between the same ESI (local
Hi Eduard,
It is just a configuration-decision whether to configure a single-homed ES with
a non-zero ESI,
thus it is not RFC violation from the viewpoint of the implementation.
But if the RT-2 routes whose ESI is zero will not be installed unless there is
an Ethernet A-D per ES route
Hi Eduard,
I just haven't noted that in RFC7432 a RT-1 per ES/EVI (with ESI=0) route
should be advertised for each single-homed ES.
RFC7432 just says that all RT-2 routes of a single-homed ES should be
advertised with ESI=0,
and then it MUST be installed into the dataplane based on
Hi Jorge,
This is the detailed explanation of the question I asked in the IETF 111
meeting.
In page 7 of slides-111-bess-sessa-evpn-ip-aliasing, when leaf-5 send traffic
to leaf-2, how does leaf-2 find the corresponding ARP entry for 20.0.0.2 or
20.0.0.1 or 20.1.1.3 ?
I guess the
Hi Jorge,
Thanks for your email, but I still don't understand why an ESI is needed here.
I know there is a static-route 1.1.1.1 on Leaf-2, but my question is that how
leaf-2 knows the overlay nexthop of 50.0.0.0/24 is 1.1.1.1 (by which that ARP
entry is found out at last)?
As you
Hi Jorge,
Please see in-line with [Yubao_2].
Thanks,
Yubao
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主 题 :Re: Re:Comments on draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-ip-aliasing-02
Hi Yubao,
Please see in-line
Hi Ketan,
Thanks for your reply,
Please see inline below.
Thanks
Yubao
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主 题 :Re: [bess] [Idr] Review request for draft-ietf-bess-srv6-services-11
Hi
Hi authors,
I read draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis-04 and I have the follwing questions and
comments:
1) In section 7.11.1, F bit (flow label capability) of L2 Attr Extended
Community is conveyed in Inclusive Multicast routes only,
and F bit will not be conveyed in Etherne A-D per EVI
Hi authors,
In RFC7432, when an IMET route is sent, how to set the Tunnel Identifier of
its PMSI tunnel is clearly described.
But when that IMET route (whose tunnel type is Ingress Replication) is
received, it seems that there are no explicit descriptions about how to
determine the
Hi authors,
I also have some other comments on draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis-04,
they are about entropy label, flow label and control word,
maybe some of them are also related to the OPE TLV of
draft-heitz-bess-evpn-option-b or RFC7447.
5) Is the entropy label in the
Hi authors,
I reviewed this draft and I don't understand this sentence very well:
"The SRv6 Endpoint behavior of the Service SID thus signaled is entirely up to
the originator of the advertisement"
Is it saying that when PE1 receives an Ethernet A-D per ES route whose SRv6
SID
Hi Ketan,
Thanks for your clarification. It's very clear now in that update.
After read the new version, now I have other questions:
When an ASBR receives a L3VPN route along with an implicit-null MPLS label,
and that ASBR doesn't recognize the SRv6-specific TLVs,
Is there a risk
Thank you for your reply.
I have missed this paragraph.
That section have described it already.
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主 题 :Re: [bess] [Idr] Review request for
Hi authors,
There may be conflicting description in
draft-ietf-bess-srv6-services-15#section-6.1.1 on the usage of Transposition
Length.
The 24-bit ESI label field of the ESI label extended community
carries the whole or a portion of the Argument part of the SRv6 SID
Hi Ketan,
Thanks for your clarifications.
But I still don't notice that RFC7432 has said that the label value is 24 bits,
I just found these paragraphs in RFC7432 or rfc7432bis:
The MPLS Label1 field is encoded as 3 octets, where the high-order
20 bits contain the label
Hi Ketan,
Thanks for your further explanations.
Please see in line with [Yubao2].
Thanks,
Yubao
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主 题 :Re: Whether the TC/S field of the ESI label field
Hi Ketan,
Please see in line with [Yubao].
Thanks,
Yubao
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主 题 :Re: Whether the TC/S field of the ESI label field can be used to carry a
portion of
Hi all,
The F bit is defined in EVPN L2-Attr extended community of
draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis-07.
When the RT-1 per EVI route including that L2-attr pass through a node which
does not recognize a L2-attr EC, there will be two cases:
Case1: that node change the MPLS label of that RT-1
Hi Jorge,
Thank you for your response.
I talk about EVPN VPLS per
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis-07#name-evpn-layer-2-attributes-ext.
That section of rfc7432bis extends L2-Attr EC (which is defined in EVPN VPWS)
to EVPN VPLS.
And my case 2 taks
Hi Jorge,
The gateway in my previous mail is not a L3 gateway. We can take a virtual hub
node of
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-virtual-hub-00 for
an example, as I had mentioned in the previous mail. Such L2 gateway is a bit
like the gateway of
Hi Ali,
Thank you for your response.
1)If two VIDs on the same physical interface of an ES are getting mapped to
BD1, but the is advertised via Eth AD per EVI route with Eth-tag of
non-zero, can BD1 still be called as VLAN-bundle service interface? I think it
is not VLAN-aware bundle
Hi All,
I have encountered a use case that I don't know if it's VLAN-based service
interface or VLAN-bundle service interface.
When two individual subinterfaces on the same ES are attached to the same BD
which is the only one BD (whose Ethernet Tag ID is zero) of its EVI, which
Service
Hi Jorge,
Lots of thanks for your explanation.
The IMET route will not be propagated so the F bit inside it will not be
propagated even if the L2 attr is not recognised by the L2 gateway.
But the flow label cannot be used for BUM packets, is this a design object to
avoid some other
Hi authors,
I noticed that draft-rabadan-bess-evpn-inter-domain-opt-b tries to summarize
the impact of the Inter-Domain Option-B connectivity in the EVPN procedures.
And I noticed that, when there is an inter-domain option-b node between virtual
hub nodes and virtual spoke nodes, how
Hi Jorge,
I think the description in draft-rabadan-bess-evpn-inter-domain-opt-b is OK.
But I don't know why the RD of AD per ES route is limited to type 1 RD. That's
why I talk about this together with rfc7432bis.
If the scenario from draft-rabadan-bess-evpn-inter-domain-opt-b has shown
Hi Sasha,
Thanks for your helpful notes.
There is only one method to determine the RD of A-D per ES routes in the
original years of RFC7432, but now there are at least two methods to determine
the RD of A-D per ES routes.
If it is the only reason why RFC7432 restrict the RD of A-D per
Hi Sasha,
When a MAC-VRF use a type 1 RD, is it expected that the RD of the EVPN
Instance has differnet RD on different PE? When a MAC-VRF use a type 2 RD, is
it expected that the RD of the EVPN Instance has the same RD on different PE?
In many deployment, whether the RD of the EVPN
Hi Jeffrey,
Please see Yubao2> below.
Thanks,
Yubao
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Hi all,
I noticed that the DF-election for VLAN-based/VLAN-bundle service interface has
been modified in section 8.5 of rfc7432bis.
"3. When the timer expires, each PE ... ... The ordinals are used to determine
which PE node will be the DF for a given EVPN instance on the Ethernet
Hi Sasha,
I agree with you on the following:
1) in the case of EVPN, it is really important to guarantee that MAC-VRFs that
locally represent the same EVI in different PEs are assigned with different RDs.
2) Type 1 RD is easier to achieve above goal, especially when the RD is
Hi Jorge,
Thanks for your explanation.
I doubt that the meaning of Ethernet Tag is not consistent in rfc7432bis. There
are some examples.
1) section 13.1 "If P2MP LSPs are being used, the packet MUST be sent on the
P2MP LSP of which the PE is the root, for the associated with the
Hi Authors,
It seems that draft-rabadan-bess-evpn-inter-domain-opt-b has conflicting
discription with rfc7432 about the RD-type of AD per ES routes:
Section 3.1.3 of draft-rabadan-bess-evpn-inter-domain-opt-b-00: "If that is
the case, now the A-D per ES routes can use the route
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