[Bf-committers] VFX Reference Platform Support

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi,
In the beginning of the month the admins [1] revisited the status of
Blender's VFX Reference Platform compliance.

The final proposal is presented in a blog post:
https://code.blender.org/2022/09/vfx-reference-platform-2023-2024/

Basically:
* Blender in 2023 and 2024 will be fully compatible with the VFX Reference
Platform.
* The Blender 3.3 release branch has a new build option to compile with
Python 3.9.
* Organizations and studios, please get involved.

---

Previous bf-committers emails about this:
* https://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-committers/2022-January/051234.html
*
https://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-committers/2022-February/051283.html

Blender admin meeting notes:
* https://devtalk.blender.org/t/2022-09-06-blender-admins-meeting/25750
* https://devtalk.blender.org/t/2022-09-21-blender-admins-meeting/25920

[1] - https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Modules

Best regards,
-Dalai-

Dalai Felinto - da...@blender.org - www.blender.org
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Op vr 4 feb. 2022 om 15:14 schreef Dalai Felinto :

> Hi,
>
> The full statement about the VFX Reference Platform is here:
> https://code.blender.org/2022/02/vfx-reference-platform/
>
> Have a good weekend everyone,
> -Dalai-
> 
> Dalai Felinto - da...@blender.org - www.blender.org
> Blender Development Coordinator
> Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
>
>
> Op wo 26 jan. 2022 om 17:01 schreef Dalai Felinto :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> > To move this forward I'm setting up a call with the other bf-admins
>> next week. We will report back afterwards.
>>
>> We agreed on upgrading Python to 3.10 in time for Blender 3.1 beta.
>>
>> A more detailed email will be posted soon. Meanwhile I wanted to share
>> this heads up to prevent any confusion, since the platform team is already
>> updating the Python library.
>>
>> Thanks everyone for the feedback,
>> -Dalai-
>> 
>> Dalai Felinto - da...@blender.org - www.blender.org
>> Blender Development Coordinator
>> Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
>>
>>
>> Op za 22 jan. 2022 om 05:35 schreef Campbell Barton > >:
>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 12:28 AM Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers
>>>  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi,
>>> > I believe Blender should stick to the VFX platform.
>>> >
>>> > After all that has been said, I think it may boil down to making a
>>> decision
>>> > between immediate known benefits and strategic uncertain long-term
>>> benefits.
>>> >
>>> > * On one hand we have tangible benefits for some users that we know of
>>> > (e.g., Python scripters will benefit from Python 3.10).
>>> > * On the other hand sticking to the VFX platform can pay off in the
>>> long
>>> > run with making Blender more likely to be integrated in large
>>> pipelines.
>>>
>>> It *could* but from my perspective with Python - I didn't see any
>>> evidence this was the case for Blender 2.8x / 2.9x which followed the
>>> VFX platform Python version (for 2.8x, 2.9x ... until we ran into
>>> problems, see [0]).
>>>
>>> A reminder that using the VFX platform's Python version means (at least
>>> some of the time) Blender's Python version won't be getting bug-fixes
>>> as each release only gets fixes for 18 months [2].
>>> To be fair, running into bugs in Python is fairly rare, so I don't
>>> consider this a huge down side. Nevertheless missing out on fixes +
>>> new features is still a down side.
>>>
>>> At some point strategic decisions like this should have tangible
>>> benefits beyond the *possability* of attracting a user base. Maybe it
>>> will be different this time - in that case there should be an
>>> explanation as to why.
>>>
>>> > One of the long-term goals for the Blender project, is to welcome more
>>> > contributions by the industry. And I think investing on that vision
>>> trumps
>>> > the immediate benefit the latest Python (or other library) brings to
>>> > Blender.
>>>
>>> It seems likely to me the benefits of Python sticking to the VFX
>>> platform are being perceived as greater than they actually are (beyond
>>> messaging that "we support the VFX platform").
>>>
>>>

[Bf-committers] Geometry Nodes sub-module meeting

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi,
The Geometry Nodes (and Hair project) meetings have a new format and
time/place.

They will happen every two weeks on Wednesday at 15:00 CEST via video chat
(the first meeting will be exceptionally at a different time). The agenda
will be proposed before the meetings, and everyone is welcome to join.

More details here:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/2022-06-01-geometry-nodes-sub-module-meeting-upcoming/24570

---

The module members will still hold daily open kick-offs. But for people
attending sporadically, the team thought it would be better to have a
focused moment where more people can participate at the same time.

See you online,
-Dalai-

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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2022.05.23

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and more read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/23-may-2022/24401

Welcomes
=
* Chris Blackbourn is now a dev grant recipient to contribute to the UV
editor.

Announcements
=
* Google Summer of Code 2022: 4 projects accepted. [1]
 -  3D Text Usability Improvements
 - Integrating Many Lights Sampling into Cycles
 - Soft Bodies Simulation using Extended Position-Based Dynamics
 - Waveform Drawing Improvements

Modules & Projects
===
* The Pipeline, Assets & IO meeting notes [2]

[1] - https://code.blender.org/2022/05/blender-gets-four-gsoc-projects/
[2] -
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/2022-05-19-pipeline-assets-i-o-meeting/24280

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[Bf-committers] Too many high priority issues for Blender 3.2

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi,

The number of unfixed high priority issues are alarming at the moment. On
April alone they skyrocketed from an already high 25 issues to 65 [1].

I urge the modules to get the grasp of this, and prioritize this over new
projects developments. This is also the time to roll back features that are
the culprit of too many regressions.

Remember that later today Thomas will announce that we will enter bcon3 for
Blender 3.2. And that usually means even more bugs will be reported once we
announce the 3.2 beta.

This is the current breakdown per-module:
* EEVEE & Viewport: 27
* Render & Cycles: 13
* Modeling: 12
* User Interface: 10
* Sculpt, Paint & Texture: 8
* Nodes & Physics: 5
* Pipeline, Assets & I/O: 5
* Animation & Rigging: 2
* Core: 1
* Grease Pencil: 1
* Python API: 1
* VFX & Video: 1

[1] -
https://metrics.blender.org/d/9TZngd9Gk/blender-bugs-reports-triaging-and-fix?orgId=1=164876400=165101040=7
[2] - This adds up to 81, because of bugs tagged over multiple modules.

Kind regards,
-Dalai-

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Re: [Bf-committers] GSOC 2022 - Core Library Tests

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi Tambe,
Not sure if you talked to someone already in the chat.

But if you look at the 2021 and 2020 editions of the GSoC you can find a
project related to regression tests. Other than that in the Blender wiki
you can read about how to run the tests we have with Blender.

-Dalai-

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Op vr 18 mrt. 2022 om 22:22 schreef Tambe Salome Ntoh via Bf-committers <
bf-committers@blender.org>:

> Hello Blender Team,
>
> My name is Tambe Salome, I'm an undergraduate computer engineering student
> from Cameroon. I have been programming with C for a while now but I have
> not had the opportunity to work on any real world projects yet.
> So far, I have cloned and built the project. I have also joined the
> devtalk chat room and I'm getting familiar with the space. I am
> interested in working on the Core Library Test project and I'll appreciate
> it if I can be linked to any material and microprojects that can help me to
> better understand core library tests.
>
> Thank you,
> Tambe Salome.
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Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal for clarified VFX Reference Platform Support

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi,

The full statement about the VFX Reference Platform is here:
https://code.blender.org/2022/02/vfx-reference-platform/

Have a good weekend everyone,
-Dalai-

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Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands


Op wo 26 jan. 2022 om 17:01 schreef Dalai Felinto :

> Hi,
>
> > To move this forward I'm setting up a call with the other bf-admins next
> week. We will report back afterwards.
>
> We agreed on upgrading Python to 3.10 in time for Blender 3.1 beta.
>
> A more detailed email will be posted soon. Meanwhile I wanted to share
> this heads up to prevent any confusion, since the platform team is already
> updating the Python library.
>
> Thanks everyone for the feedback,
> -Dalai-
> 
> Dalai Felinto - da...@blender.org - www.blender.org
> Blender Development Coordinator
> Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
>
>
> Op za 22 jan. 2022 om 05:35 schreef Campbell Barton  >:
>
>> On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 12:28 AM Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> > I believe Blender should stick to the VFX platform.
>> >
>> > After all that has been said, I think it may boil down to making a
>> decision
>> > between immediate known benefits and strategic uncertain long-term
>> benefits.
>> >
>> > * On one hand we have tangible benefits for some users that we know of
>> > (e.g., Python scripters will benefit from Python 3.10).
>> > * On the other hand sticking to the VFX platform can pay off in the long
>> > run with making Blender more likely to be integrated in large pipelines.
>>
>> It *could* but from my perspective with Python - I didn't see any
>> evidence this was the case for Blender 2.8x / 2.9x which followed the
>> VFX platform Python version (for 2.8x, 2.9x ... until we ran into
>> problems, see [0]).
>>
>> A reminder that using the VFX platform's Python version means (at least
>> some of the time) Blender's Python version won't be getting bug-fixes
>> as each release only gets fixes for 18 months [2].
>> To be fair, running into bugs in Python is fairly rare, so I don't
>> consider this a huge down side. Nevertheless missing out on fixes +
>> new features is still a down side.
>>
>> At some point strategic decisions like this should have tangible
>> benefits beyond the *possability* of attracting a user base. Maybe it
>> will be different this time - in that case there should be an
>> explanation as to why.
>>
>> > One of the long-term goals for the Blender project, is to welcome more
>> > contributions by the industry. And I think investing on that vision
>> trumps
>> > the immediate benefit the latest Python (or other library) brings to
>> > Blender.
>>
>> It seems likely to me the benefits of Python sticking to the VFX
>> platform are being perceived as greater than they actually are (beyond
>> messaging that "we support the VFX platform").
>>
>> While there are scenarios with Python ABI compatibility (relating to
>> the VFX platform) can cause problems, and I'm not saying nobody ever
>> ran into these issues - this seems more like a corner case which isn't
>> actually blocking people in the VFX industry using Blender in
>> practice. If it was, they were not vocal when it was announced we
>> planned to upgrade to Python 3.9.
>>
>> Part of my skepticism gets into the details of what the VFX platform
>> is generally used for, from what I can gather the QT graphical toolkit
>> and it's Python bindings are a significant factor deciding if Python
>> can be upgraded for the VFX platform. (PySide [1] sometimes lags in
>> it's Python support).
>>
>> Since using QT from Blender is impractical (last I checked at least),
>> it's not clear if sticking to an older Python has all that much
>> benefit for VFX users either (as native Python modules typically
>> aren't a problem).
>>
>> > To have studios contributing to Blender is a two-way street. And Blender
>> > sticking to the VFX is the least the Blender project can do on its end.
>>
>> As far as I can see we tried this and it didn't yield much, if you
>> propose to try it again - it's reasonable to question what success
>> would look like - and what would be a reasonable time frame to decide.
>>
>> > I look forward to see this and other efforts in t

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal for clarified VFX Reference Platform Support

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi,

> To move this forward I'm setting up a call with the other bf-admins next
week. We will report back afterwards.

We agreed on upgrading Python to 3.10 in time for Blender 3.1 beta.

A more detailed email will be posted soon. Meanwhile I wanted to share this
heads up to prevent any confusion, since the platform team is already
updating the Python library.

Thanks everyone for the feedback,
-Dalai-

Dalai Felinto - da...@blender.org - www.blender.org
Blender Development Coordinator
Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands


Op za 22 jan. 2022 om 05:35 schreef Campbell Barton :

> On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 12:28 AM Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers
>  wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I believe Blender should stick to the VFX platform.
> >
> > After all that has been said, I think it may boil down to making a
> decision
> > between immediate known benefits and strategic uncertain long-term
> benefits.
> >
> > * On one hand we have tangible benefits for some users that we know of
> > (e.g., Python scripters will benefit from Python 3.10).
> > * On the other hand sticking to the VFX platform can pay off in the long
> > run with making Blender more likely to be integrated in large pipelines.
>
> It *could* but from my perspective with Python - I didn't see any
> evidence this was the case for Blender 2.8x / 2.9x which followed the
> VFX platform Python version (for 2.8x, 2.9x ... until we ran into
> problems, see [0]).
>
> A reminder that using the VFX platform's Python version means (at least
> some of the time) Blender's Python version won't be getting bug-fixes
> as each release only gets fixes for 18 months [2].
> To be fair, running into bugs in Python is fairly rare, so I don't
> consider this a huge down side. Nevertheless missing out on fixes +
> new features is still a down side.
>
> At some point strategic decisions like this should have tangible
> benefits beyond the *possability* of attracting a user base. Maybe it
> will be different this time - in that case there should be an
> explanation as to why.
>
> > One of the long-term goals for the Blender project, is to welcome more
> > contributions by the industry. And I think investing on that vision
> trumps
> > the immediate benefit the latest Python (or other library) brings to
> > Blender.
>
> It seems likely to me the benefits of Python sticking to the VFX
> platform are being perceived as greater than they actually are (beyond
> messaging that "we support the VFX platform").
>
> While there are scenarios with Python ABI compatibility (relating to
> the VFX platform) can cause problems, and I'm not saying nobody ever
> ran into these issues - this seems more like a corner case which isn't
> actually blocking people in the VFX industry using Blender in
> practice. If it was, they were not vocal when it was announced we
> planned to upgrade to Python 3.9.
>
> Part of my skepticism gets into the details of what the VFX platform
> is generally used for, from what I can gather the QT graphical toolkit
> and it's Python bindings are a significant factor deciding if Python
> can be upgraded for the VFX platform. (PySide [1] sometimes lags in
> it's Python support).
>
> Since using QT from Blender is impractical (last I checked at least),
> it's not clear if sticking to an older Python has all that much
> benefit for VFX users either (as native Python modules typically
> aren't a problem).
>
> > To have studios contributing to Blender is a two-way street. And Blender
> > sticking to the VFX is the least the Blender project can do on its end.
>
> As far as I can see we tried this and it didn't yield much, if you
> propose to try it again - it's reasonable to question what success
> would look like - and what would be a reasonable time frame to decide.
>
> > I look forward to see this and other efforts in that direction, such as
> > onboarding, code documentation, infrastructure and development practices.
>
> Supporting the VFX platform and other topics such as onboarding,
> development practices ... etc seem unrelated.
>
> > To move this forward I'm setting up a call with the other bf-admins next
> > week. We will report back afterwards.
> >
> > Thanks everything for the contributions,
> > -Dalai-
>
> [0]: https://bugs.python.org/issue35523
> [1]: https://pypi.org/project/PySide
> [2]: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0602/
>
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Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal for clarified VFX Reference Platform Support

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi,
I believe Blender should stick to the VFX platform.

After all that has been said, I think it may boil down to making a decision
between immediate known benefits and strategic uncertain long-term benefits.

* On one hand we have tangible benefits for some users that we know of
(e.g., Python scripters will benefit from Python 3.10).
* On the other hand sticking to the VFX platform can pay off in the long
run with making Blender more likely to be integrated in large pipelines.

One of the long-term goals for the Blender project, is to welcome more
contributions by the industry. And I think investing on that vision trumps
the immediate benefit the latest Python (or other library) brings to
Blender.

To have studios contributing to Blender is a two-way street. And Blender
sticking to the VFX is the least the Blender project can do on its end. I
look forward to see this and other efforts in that direction, such as
onboarding, code documentation, infrastructure and development practices.

To move this forward I'm setting up a call with the other bf-admins next
week. We will report back afterwards.

Thanks everything for the contributions,
-Dalai-

Dalai Felinto - da...@blender.org - www.blender.org
Blender Development Coordinator
Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands


Op vr 21 jan. 2022 om 10:02 schreef Sergey Sharybin via Bf-committers <
bf-committers@blender.org>:

> Hi,
>
> Jason, taking the LTS release schedule, Python/other libraries release
> schedule, and VFX platform release schedule, I am not really sure how to
> achieve this in practice. Not even sure it brings more solutions than
> problems.
>
> Ray, our paths might be different but the goal is the same: minimize gray
> area. Define what is really important for the project, and work towards
> that. It might not be something the Platform is aimed to solve, but is
> something Blender will find important.
>
> Best regards,
> - Sergey -
> 
> Sergey Sharybin - ser...@blender.org - www.blender.org
> Principal Software Engineer, Blender
> Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 12:51 AM Ray Molenkamp via Bf-committers <
> bf-committers@blender.org> wrote:
>
> > I don't think any of the major vendors (nor us) will build openvdb
> > with a wonky blosc version that will give compatibility issues, point
> > is neither the danger of using a "wrong" blosc version nor any other
> > mention of file compatibility is in the platform (but it is in the
> > openvdb documentation) So my argument was about not referring to
> > the platform as an authority on file compatibility, since they aren't.
> > The choice to follow the platform or not is a completely separate
> > choice.
> >
> > I'm desperately trying to get us to a point where rather than an
> > uncommitted, "we follow some things, not others, kinda depends on our
> > mood, and if we like to make a random exception or not, also here are
> > some arbitrary commitments to things that platform doesn't even seem to
> > do" to a crystal clear:
> >
> > -These are the things we do
> > -These are the things we don't
> >
> > I'd rather give users like you solid hard disappointment you can
> > count on, than comforting false hope that will disappoint. Guaranteed
> > platform adherence would have been acceptable as well, but that does
> > not appear to be the direction we are appear to be leaning.
> >
> > My objective is to minimize/eliminate the "gray zone" blender has
> > been in for the last few years regarding the platform, VFX Platform in or
> > out, I'm cool either way, but we have to pick a team and communicate it
> > clearly to our users.
> >
> > --Ray
> >
> > On 2022-01-20 12:40 p.m., Scott Wilson wrote:
> > > I'm sort of out of the loop, but has there been communications with the
> > VFX Reference Platform recently? I think that some of the issues brought
> up
> > such as build flags for OpenVDB could be resolved. I know that as a
> > pipeline TD in a studio, having all of the vendors on the same page about
> > all attributes of the build environment makes my life much easier. So, I
> > throw what little say I have into getting Blender and the platform
> aligned.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 11:22 AM Ray Molenkamp via Bf-committers <
> > bf-committers@blender.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > While I do not mind the practical nuts and bolts of this
> > > proposal at all, I do mind the language, referring to the
> > > VFX Platform as something worth looking at regarding file
> > > or platform compatibility is unfortunate.
> > >
> > > The Platform as is makes no attempt to manage file compatibility
> > > throughout the pipeline, the big-ticket items in this space such
> > > as USD and/or MaterialX aren't even in the platform, the things
> > > that are in the platform, such as 

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal for clarified VFX Reference Platform Support

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Sergey, the correct link to Campbell's reply would be:
https://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-committers/2021-May/050998.html (it
was missing .html in his original email)


Op ma 17 jan. 2022 om 11:24 schreef Sergey Sharybin via Bf-committers <
bf-committers@blender.org>:

> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> I don't really feel great about Python being the only exception allowed to
> be digressed from the platform. It is the most impactful library from the
> ones which are directly facing users. If we allow it to be different from
> what the Platform is stating, I don't see issues with digression in other
> libraries which nobody from users is likely to even notice.
>
> For the TBB sure there were no big passionate discussions, at least yet. It
> doesn't mean staying at an older (officially unsupported, btw) version
> doesn't bring, say, maintenance and development and moving forward
> complications.
>
> Campbell, it seems something went wrong with URLs in your message. Not sure
> which exact mail/thread the first one is supposed to be pointing, and the
> second one is 404. Do you mind sending a followup with updated links?
>
> I agree that the outcome should be much more prominently communicated.
> That's what I think should happen as an outcome of discussion in this
> thread: we come up with policy and explicitly communicate it.
>
> Ray, Campbell: The Python situation is a subset of the proposal in my
> original message. So in this regard we are aligned. But it is not really
> clear to me what your position is when it comes to non-Python. Do you
> disagree with the proposal, are you fine with it, or suggest something
> else?
>
> Best regards,
> - Sergey -
> 
> Sergey Sharybin - ser...@blender.org - www.blender.org
> Principal Software Engineer, Blender
> Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 5:58 AM Campbell Barton via Bf-committers <
> bf-committers@blender.org> wrote:
>
> > As far as I'm aware, the decision for Blender *not* to follow the VFX
> > platform for Python is still in place (allowing us to follow Python's
> > release schedule, unless there are good reasons not to).
> >
> > Last time the topic came up was May 2021, the discussion petered out
> > and there were no conclusions from that thread or meeting minutes at
> > the time that any changes were planned. see: [0] "VFX reference
> > platform 2022 draft" thread.
> > Although it would have been good if the outcome of this discussion was
> > noted in meeting minutes (or noted needing further discussion if
> > developers involved thought the topic was unresolved).
> >
> > My opinion on this hasn't changed from the comments made here [1].
> >
> > [0]:
> >
> https://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-committers/2021-May/thread.html#50990
> > [1]: https://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-committers/2021-May/050998.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 11:57 AM Ray Molenkamp via Bf-committers
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > All right, looks like we're tiptoeing around
> > > the elephant in the room, time to rip that
> > > Band-Aid off (feels like this metaphor kinda
> > > got away from me, but I'm sticking with it!)
> > >
> > > Let’s not beat around the bush, no-one has
> > > ever complained about our OIIO, Boost, VDB or
> > > TBB versions. People get ..passionate..
> > > about python, anytime someone brings up the
> > > VFX Platform it's python, It's never anything
> > > else, it's python, the rest of the VFX platform
> > > may as well not exist. The issue is, and will
> > > always be python.
> > >
> > > The real question is, are we going to follow
> > > the platform in regards to python or not.
> > >
> > > The way the python [1] and VFX Platforms [2]
> > > are released those most we'll ever have is a
> > > 5-month window where the two will overlap and
> > > there will actually be active bug fix support
> > > on python the python version of the VFX Platform.
> > > Are we OK with that?
> > >
> > > People get upse..uhh passionate when we "suddenly"
> > > change our python version. What is needed is a
> > > clear and decisive message regarding how we pick
> > > our python versions.
> > >
> > > Are we following:
> > >
> > > A) The python release schedule
> > > B) The VFX platform schedule
> > > C) Well, you know maybe, VFX kind of works out
> > > this year so why not, next year maybe not so
> > > much, we'll see, oh hey this years python has ….
> > > [check notes]..better….. error.. messages? we got
> > > to upgrade!
> > > D) Other
> > >
> > > We have been doing C, and I don't think anyone
> > > is super thrilled about how this is working out.
> > >
> > > I mostly don’t even care what we pick (not C!!)
> > > pick something, write it down somewhere, so people
> > > can rely on it.
> > >
> > > --Ray
> > >
> > > [1] https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0602/
> > > [2] https://vfxplatform.com/about/
> > >
> > > 

[Bf-committers] Blender 3.0 bcon5 - release preparation

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hello everyone,

We are officially in the final stages of release preparation for 3.0. We're
entering bcon5 for 3.0 now.

If anyone has any concerns, please let me know here and in blender.chat.
There is an ongoing issue with the buildbot, but we believe we will be able
to do the release nonetheless.

Best regards,
-Dalai-

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[Bf-committers] Blender 3.0 release AHOY

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Hi,
The Blender 3.0 release is on track for release on Friday 3rd December.

* As of now, do not commit to `blender-v3.0-release` branch without
clearing up with Philipp Oeser or me directly.
* The plan is to start the build process Thursday night CET.
* Any non-showstoppers can be committed to master and listed in the
potential 3.0.1 task  (T93479).
* At the moment there is no high priority bug that is blocking the release
[*].

For anything release related join #blender-coders on blender.chat.

---

[*] The existing high priority bugs are either old issues, or won't
realistic be fixed for this release (T93350, T88570, T88368, T88257,
T87975, T87243, T86868, T86778).

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[Bf-committers] Blender 3.0 Code Architecture Documentation

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Hi,

There was a meeting today at the Blender Institute to tackle the code
documentation deficit we have in Blender [1].

The initial outcome was that developers here will allocate 3 full days in
December to cover important undocumented parts in the wiki [2].

The work will be done asynchronously but most people will be around to
provide feedback. Everyone is welcome to join and document the parts of the
code they know well.

The effort is centralized in the task T93407 [3]. Sharing the progress,
asking for feedback and questions can happen in #blender-coders.

[1] -
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/2021-11-26-blender-institute-documentation/21581
[2] - https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Source
[3] - https://developer.blender.org/T93407

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[Bf-committers] Welcome to Blender 3.0 bcon4

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Hi,
Blender 3.0 is now officially in the bcon4 stage. All on track for a smooth
release on December 3rd.

blender-v3.0-release is now considered frozen to prepare for the release.
Only critical and carefully reviewed bug fixes allowed.

It is important to keep an eye in the tracker for any unexpected high
priority regression. From the existing high priority issues those are still
planned to be fixed for 3.0:

* T92577: Cannot open folder shortcuts under Windows (Julian Eisel will
work on this tomorrow).
* T93310: Compositor: Crash due to broken image paths (Jacques Lucke made a
patch, waiting for Jeroen/Manuel to review).

Thanks everyone for all the energy devoted to reporting, triaging and
fixing bugs/reviewing patches the last couple of days.

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[Bf-committers] Blender 3.0 bcon4 moved to Thursday (25/Nov)

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi,

Today a few high priority issues were fixed, yet there are still many in a
unknown state (is someone working on it? how much work is to fix it? is it
really a critical issue? what is blocking a patch?).

Let's move bcon4 at least a full day so we can better asses the situation.

Please use this extra time to focus on the high priority issues. I know it
is tempting to use the time to fix nice-to-have-bugs, but those can also be
addressed later in future 3.0 corrective releases.

Thanks,
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[Bf-committers] Blender 3.1 Preliminary Dates

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Hi,
I've updated the 3.1 project page [1] with a proposal for the Bcon dates:

* Bcon1, New features and changes, October 27, 2021
* Bcon2, Improve and stabilize, December 29, 2021
* Bcon3, Bug fixing only, January 26, 2021
* Bcon4, Prepare release, March 2, 2021
* Bcon5, Release, March 9, 2021

I basically added the corresponding weeks [2] based on when Bcon1 started.
I'm not happy with Bcon2 happening during the Christmas holidays, and would
love to hear what the modules think.

Note: I personally won't be around for the Bcon2 and the Bcon4 dates.

[1] - https://developer.blender.org/project/view/135/
[2] - https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Process/Release_Cycle

Best regards,
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[Bf-committers] Now at 3.0 Bcon3 (and 3.1 Bcon1)

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi all,

We have now entered the next phase of the release cycle.

Blender 3.0 now continues in the blender-v3.0-release branch, for bug
fixing only. Blender 3.1 development started in the master branch, for new
features.

For more details on how to commit and merge, see here:
https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Process/Using_Stabilizing_Branch

During bcon3 patch review is highly encouraged. Please try to get a pair of
eyes on your changes before they are sent to blender-v3.0-release. For
bcon4 (Nov 24) patch review is mandatory in the  release branch.

Best regards,
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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.10.25

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/25-october-2021/21017

Welcomes

* Erik Abrahamsson has now commit access to help with geometry nodes and
volume development.

Announcements
=
* Blender 3.0 bcon3 scheduled to Wednesday 27 October, 2021.
* Sprite Fright online Premiere Friday 29 October 2021, 17:00 CEST.
* Blender Studio and Blender Cloud rename [1].

Modules & Projects
===
In the complete report you will find:
* Geometry Nodes new sample files.
* Asset Browser catalog videos.

[1] - https://studio.blender.org/blog/blender-studio-and-blender-cloud/

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Re: [Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.10.18

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Hi,

> They will talk on Tuesday, October 19, and will report back.

Bastien agreed on moving bcon3 to next week. He is still concerned of
whether 4 weeks will be enough for bcon3. But for now we stick to November
24 as the bcon4 date.

I will update the dates everywhere.

Cheers,
-Dalai-

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Op ma 18 okt. 2021 om 17:30 schreef Dalai Felinto :

> Hi all,
>
> Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
> report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
> https://devtalk.blender.org/t/18-october-2021/20843
>
> Announcements
> =
> * Apple joined the development fund [1] and is contributing a Metal
> backend for Cycles [2].
>
> Welcomes
> =
> * Michael Jones from Apple now has commit rights to the Blender repository
> to work on this project. Welcome!
>
> Blender 3.0 bcon3
> ==
> * Dalai Felinto proposed (in #blender-coders) to move bcon3 to a week
> later, on October 27.
> * Bastien Montagne proposed instead to move the incomplete targets to 3.1
> instead.
> * They will talk on Tuesday, October 19, and will report back.
> * Meanwhile, if anyone else has a new point to make please do it here in
> bf-committers or in #blender-coders (tagging @dfelinto).
>
> [1] - https://www.blender.org/press/apple-joins-blender-development-fund/
> [2] - https://developer.blender.org/T92212
>
> -Dalai-
> 
> Dalai Felinto - da...@blender.org - www.blender.org
> Blender Development Coordinator
> Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
>
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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.10.18

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/18-october-2021/20843

Announcements
=
* Apple joined the development fund [1] and is contributing a Metal backend
for Cycles [2].

Welcomes
=
* Michael Jones from Apple now has commit rights to the Blender repository
to work on this project. Welcome!

Blender 3.0 bcon3
==
* Dalai Felinto proposed (in #blender-coders) to move bcon3 to a week
later, on October 27.
* Bastien Montagne proposed instead to move the incomplete targets to 3.1
instead.
* They will talk on Tuesday, October 19, and will report back.
* Meanwhile, if anyone else has a new point to make please do it here in
bf-committers or in #blender-coders (tagging @dfelinto).

[1] - https://www.blender.org/press/apple-joins-blender-development-fund/
[2] - https://developer.blender.org/T92212

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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.10.11

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/11-october-2021/20779

Announcements

* This is the bug sprint week for the modules that don’t have their own
agenda.
* The final Google Summer of Code write up by Mario Hawat is out [1].

[1] -
https://code.blender.org/2021/10/gsoc-roundup-episode-four-lets-get-physical/

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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.10.04

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi all,

Here are the (late) compiled notes for this week's development. For the
complete report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it
on: https://devtalk.blender.org/t/4-october-2021/20656

Welcomes (back)
=
* Johnny Matthews is back and contributing to the Geometry Nodes project
(after a 14 years hiatus).

Announcements

* Blender 3.0 is now in bcon2 until October 20, 2021. [1]
* Google Summer of Code write up 3/4. [2]

Geometry Nodes
=
* New official video explaining Geometry Nodes Fields [3]

[1] -
https://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-committers/2021-September/051167.html
[2] -
https://code.blender.org/2021/09/gsoc-roundup-episode-three-ahead-of-the-curve-on-the-cutting-edge/
[3] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yci5ouEmnLI

Regards,
-Dalai-

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[Bf-committers] Blender 3.0 bcon2

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi,
We are officially in 3.0 bcon2 [1]. The following is the current status of
the pending features.

Original bcon1 targets postponed to bcon2:
* Theme changes [2].
* VR navigation.

Features postponed to 3.1:
* Opensubdiv OpenGL (D12406).
* UV edge selection support (D12028).
* Clip Editor (exposing operators as tools) [3].

All the bcon2 show stoppers are now already in master, including:
* Tool header swap (D12631).
* VSE changes (D12405).
* Catalogs UI.
* Cycles-X.
* Geometry Nodes Fields.
* Grease Pencil split weight modifier in two.
* UV: GSoC - D12680 + D12684.
* Knife improvements: GSoC.
* Full canvas compositor "backend".

The bcon2 will last slightly less than a month. Bcon3 is on October 20,
2021. For the complete schedule please check the 3.0 project page [4].

[1] - https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Process/Release_Cycle
[2] - branch `temp-ui-tweaks` + D11878
[3] - branch `tracking_tools`
[4] - https://developer.blender.org/project/view/120/

All the best,
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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.09.27

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/27-september-2021/20556

Announcements
=
* The 2nd Google Summer of Code article is covering VSE and the UV editors
[1].
* Cycles-X was merged [2].
* Animation Proxies removal planned for 3.0 [3].

[1] -
https://code.blender.org/2021/09/gsoc-roundup-episode-two-editorial-endeavours/
[2] - https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Reference/Release_Notes/3.0/Cycles
[3] -
https://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-committers/2021-September/051148.html

Regards,
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Re: [Bf-committers] *** RESPECTFULLY NOT SPAM *** Weekly Development Notes Followup

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi,
This kind of communication indeed doesn't belong in the report and the
image we want to project.

Everyone contributing to Blender is to uphold a professional behavior. And
we should work to make sure slips like this don't happen again.

Thank you,
-Dalai-

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Op vr 24 sep. 2021 om 14:48 schreef Monique Dewanchand via Bf-committers <
bf-committers@blender.org>:

> I think Ryan's remarks raises some valid points.
>
> Putting words like "sigh" in your reports, to me, is not very professional.
> As developers we all have had our moments of frustration and sometimes
> unwillingly express those.
> I hope we can forgive Bastien for this.
> However I would expect from a Development Coordinator to notice these types
> of things and act upon them. But perhaps my expectations are incorrect.
> Is someone responsible for the quality of 'official' development
> communications (like release notes etc )?
>
> In my experience, years and years ago, when there were only 2 devs
> receiving some minimalistic contributions from Blender, I loved
> contributing to Blender.
> I found the overall vibe and attitude very pleasant, there was respect,
> room for good discussions and constructive criticism. This vibe rapidly
> changed when Blender started to hire more and more devs. (More)Processes,
> rules and regulations made their way into Blender development, all for good
> reasons, but at the expense of respect, good discussions and constructive
> criticism.
> Contributing to Blender Development had become frustrating for me, so I
> stopt and decided to contribute in a different way (teaching Blender and
> working on add-ons).
>
> In recent years I've noticed quite an improvement in the way blender
> developers are communicating with "contributors". Is it perfect? Not yet.
> Is there room for improvement? Yes, but it's definitely better than what it
> used to be. I do think that contributors are still very valuable for
> Blender development so I hope that blender devs, coordinators and
> contributors take a bit more care in how they cooperate and communicate.
>
> kind regards,
> Monique
>
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 12:42 PM Thomas Dinges via Bf-committers <
> bf-committers@blender.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Ryan,
> >
> > I am not Dalai, but as Developer Community Coordinator I will try to
> > answer.
> >
> > 1) As Ankit already mentioned, the message was likely marked as spam by
> > some e-mail filter. Nothing more :)
> >
> > 2) Bastien replied to your mail and explained the situation and the
> > reason for his note in the report. He also apologized and confirmed that
> > it was not meant as a personal attack.
> >
> > The Blender developers do their best to communicate professionally and
> > friendly. In my (round about) 7 years as contributor, in my free time, I
> > always felt welcome.
> > There were of course times, when I disagreed with the decisions made by
> > module owners or the admins. At times this was a little bit frustrating.
> > But the communication was always professional and friendly.
> >
> > We can of course argue about remarks such as the "(sigh...") in a
> > report, but Bastien explained the situation and I don't see a personal
> > attack in there, only a little bit of frustration and a remark that is
> > human.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Thomas
> >
> > Am 24.09.2021 um 07:59 schrieb Ryan Inch via Bf-committers:
> > > Thanks for your quick reply Bastian.  My email wasn't a prompt to be
> > > defensive but a request for clarification from Dalai as the Blender
> > > Development Coordinator.  Depending on what Dalai says, I'll follow up
> > > with your points if need be because this is not about me but how
> > > community developers are treated.
> > >
> > > Dalai, as Blender Development Coordinator, one specific request from
> > > the Epic MegaGrant was to make Blender more professional.  I and other
> > > community devs and members do not think this kind of notation is
> > > professional.  It also disincentivizes engagement between core devs
> > > and community devs who do consider this a type of attack.
> > >
> > > So again, my question to you as the Blender Development Coordinator is
> > > 'In what case is it acceptable for a developer to put something like
> > > "Spent time on re-explaining/re-investigating T9599 (sigh…)." in their
> > > official weekly development notes?' And now, in what case is it
> > > acceptable to mark an email asking about such an issue as spam?  I was
> > > under the impression that personal attacks were not tolerated?
> > >
> > > Ryan
> > >
> > > On 2021-09-21 06:00 AM, bf-committers-requ...@blender.org wrote:
> > >> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 09:20:11 +0200
> > >> From: Bastien Montagne 
> > >> To: Ryan Inch via Bf-committers 
> > >> Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] *** SPAM *** Weekly 

[Bf-committers] bcon2 moved to September 29, 2021

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi,
Today we had the meeting in #blender-coders about bcon2 targets [1].

To make sure there is enough time to finish the main targets, we agreed to
move bcon2 for another week on 29/Sep. At that day same time, same place
this can be confirmed [2].

Here is the list of the blocking targets

* User interface changes (e.g., T91536).
* Geometry Nodes Fields.
* Asset Browser material support (catalogs + material de-duplication).
* Grease Pencil - split weight modifier in two.

The non-blocking targets:
===
* Full canvas compositor status (goal for 3.0 is no end-user change)
* XR event support, controller drawings and viewport navigation
* Clip Editor tools.
* UV improvements (GSoC project).
* Knife improvements (GSoC project).
* Generic pose slider color

[1] -
https://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-committers/2021-September/051145.html
[2] - 11:00 AM CEST #blender-coders no blender.chat

Until next week,
-Dalai-

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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.09.20

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/20-september-2021/20460

Announcements

* Clément Foucault is in Amsterdam for a week long workshop about the EEVEE
plans.

Blender 3.0
=
* bcon2 is still planned for Wednesday, 22 September 2021.
* Some of the big targets are still not merged (cycles-x, geometry nodes
fields, …).
* This will be confirmed again on Wednesday 11:00 CEST on #blender-coders.

Geometry Nodes
=
* Curve objects have support to Geometry Nodes modifiers.
* Hans Goudey wrote an article about the curve support in Geometry Nodes,
highlighting the community contributions [1].

[1] - https://code.blender.org/2021/09/procedural-curves-in-3-0-and-beyond/

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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.09.13

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Hi,

Last week there hasn't been any news shared by the modules. But you can
still see the list of what changed on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/13-september-2021/20346

It seems everyone is busy wrapping up the targets for bcon2 next week
(Wednesday).

Regards,
-Dalai-

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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.09.06

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/6-september-2021/20191

Announcements
=
* Google Summer of Code: The first report is out with the Geometry Nodes
related projects in code.blender.org.
* Credits page updated to handle renames and de-duplications.
* Bug triaging updates for high priority issues and feature branch reports.
* Buildbot supports again branch and patch links.
* Blender 3.0 release dates proposal announced.

Modules & Projects
===
*  Rendering Meeting - 31/08 [1]

[1] -
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/2021-08-31-blender-rendering-meeting/20206

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-Dalai-

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[Bf-committers] Blender 3.0 Release Dates

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi,

This is an update following the Blender 3.0 release planning [1]. After
having checked with the modules, we can finally settle on the following
proposal:

* September 22 - bcon2
* October 20 - bcon3
* November 24 - bcon4
* December 1 - bcon5 (release)

There are already lots of new features in master [2]. And each module still
has some smaller features planned before bcon2. That said, we are still
waiting for the following big targets pending to be fully merged to master:

* Cycles-X.
* Geometry Nodes (Fields).
* Asset Browser (Catalogs, Materials, ...).
* UI Workshop proposed changes [3].

EEVEE reactor [4] was postponed for 3.1.

[1] -
https://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-committers/2021-June/051043.html
[2] - https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Reference/Release_Notes/3.0
[3] -  The planned workshop may be replaced by an online meeting to
formalize some UI decisions.
[4] - https://code.blender.org/2021/06/eevees-future/

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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.08.30

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/30-august-2021/20115

Welcomes

* Thomas Dinges will be helping with [developer community coordination in
the coming weeks [1].

Announcements

* Google Summer of Code is officially over. All the projects passed the
final evaluation (congratulations everyone!).
* Clément Foucault is going to be in the Blender HQ (Amsterdam) for EEVEE
and viewport planning and design sections - original plan September 20-24.

Modules & Projects

* Geometry Nodes latest development is happening in the branch
temp-geometry-nodes-fields.
There is not much difference from master there yet [2].

[1] -
https://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-committers/2021-August/051125.html
[2] -
https://developer.blender.org/diffusion/B/history/temp-geometry-nodes-fields/

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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.08.23

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/23-august-2021/20020

Announcements
=
* Rendering module meeting [1]
* Blender compression mode changes to Zstandard -  Lukas Stockner will mail
this list with details.
* Attributes and Fields - workshop write up and geometry nodes design
update [2].

[1] -
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/2021-08-17-blender-rendering-meeting/20043
[2] - https://code.blender.org/2021/08/attributes-and-fields/

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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.08.16

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/16-august-2021/19948

Announcements
=
This is the last week Google Summer of Code 2021. The final reports will be
available by the end of the week in the GSoC wiki page [1].

Geometry Nodes
=
The workshop last week helped to settle the ongoing design discussions. The
project will pursuit the Fields design further. More details in an upcoming
blog post.

[1] - https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/GSoC/2021

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Re: [Bf-committers] The Story Of My Attempts At Contributing Code To Blender

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Hi Ryan,
More details about your specific patch (D9599).

The solution you found has some merits, however it is incomplete and
doesn't work as well as the one that we now have in master. More
specifically it doesn't account for cases when the collection is linked
inside more than one collection (it would just get the first matching user
of said collection).

This problem wasn't considered a priority until a related issue came up
(overrides resync in some production files). By then Bastien tried your
patch which didn't fix the problem. He then proceed to create his own
solution, which is what ended up being merged.

The use case of 9,000 collections is not one that was taken into
consideration for the solution. It simply doesn't represent the type of
scene the system is built for. That said this can be improved a bit. So if
you are interested on help this further please reach out to Bastien, he has
some ideas on how the code can iterate a bit faster on the collections. He
is also available if you need more clarifications on the shortcomes of your
patch.

If you need more clarifications let me know. All in all I hope we (the
development team) can improve the communication even further to prevent
situations like this one.

-Dalai-

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Op wo 11 aug. 2021 om 10:25 schreef Dalai Felinto :

> Hi Ryan,
> Thanks for your email.
>
> I will talk to Bastien to understand better the decision process for this
> particular patch. See what caused your patch to be abandoned, and if there
> is room for further performance improvements. I will get back to you here.
>
> Furthermore, you brought a few points that the Blender project has to
> improve:
>
> * Communication of the modules agendas.
> * Module to be more open to contributors.
> * Patch review process (e.g., clear process or assigning, set expectations
> upfront, better communication).
>
> As a rule of thumb any developer who is driven to collaborate to Blender
> overall agenda and shows the dedication and competence should be welcomed
> into the modules. Even for modules where the bar is a bit higher, such as
> the core module [1].
>
> All in all this comes in in a good time. In a few weeks Thomas Dinges will
> start helping to coordinate the online development community. And this is a
> very clear use case of what he can look at to help for improvements.
>
> Meanwhile as a general rule if a module is not working well this can be
> escalated to the bf-admins [2]. As a last resource if someone think that
> the bf-admins are not addressing things properly or in a fashionable time,
> it can escalate further to Ton.
>
> [1] -
> https://code.blender.org/2021/02/module-teams-for-core-blender-development/
> [2] - https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Modules#Blender
>
> Regards,
> -Dalai-
> 
> Dalai Felinto - da...@blender.org - www.blender.org
> Blender Development Coordinator
> Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
>
>
> Op wo 11 aug. 2021 om 01:17 schreef Ryan Inch via Bf-committers <
> bf-committers@blender.org>:
>
>> To the core Blender developers.
>> Hello again, Collection Manager dev here.
>> Let me start off by saying that I care a lot about Blender, it's been a
>> huge influence on my life and an inspiring story of the little DCC app
>> that could, and I want nothing but the best for it. So it highly saddens
>> me that I feel I need to write this email.
>>
>> I've been a part of the Blender community and writing add-ons for it for
>> eight years and a user of Blender for even longer.  I love the power it
>> gives me to create, and have always tried to give back with what I have
>> to give (Unfortunately, money is not one of those ways, so I have
>> contributed code, feedback, and support instead).
>>
>> In 2019 I separated the Collection Manager out of a larger add-on and
>> submitted it to be included in Blender as a bundled add-on on the advice
>> of Brendon Murphy (meta-androcto).  Soon after my submission, I was
>> contacted by Paul Kotelevets (1D_Inc) who expressed the short comings of
>> the current collections system for complex scene setup and precise
>> modeling that requires multiple reference images.  Together, along with
>> others who gave feedback, we have advanced the usability of Blender for
>> complex setups and increased the capabilities of the new collection
>> system.  When I started this project I assumed that it would be highly
>> welcomed, because collections were one of the pillars of the 2.8
>> project, however, it was mostly ignored.  Still, I continued on with the
>> project because it was useful to me and was essential to others for
>> their jobs.
>>
>> In the year and a half I've worked on the project, I've become pretty
>> familiar with the 

Re: [Bf-committers] The Story Of My Attempts At Contributing Code To Blender

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi Ryan,
Thanks for your email.

I will talk to Bastien to understand better the decision process for this
particular patch. See what caused your patch to be abandoned, and if there
is room for further performance improvements. I will get back to you here.

Furthermore, you brought a few points that the Blender project has to
improve:

* Communication of the modules agendas.
* Module to be more open to contributors.
* Patch review process (e.g., clear process or assigning, set expectations
upfront, better communication).

As a rule of thumb any developer who is driven to collaborate to Blender
overall agenda and shows the dedication and competence should be welcomed
into the modules. Even for modules where the bar is a bit higher, such as
the core module [1].

All in all this comes in in a good time. In a few weeks Thomas Dinges will
start helping to coordinate the online development community. And this is a
very clear use case of what he can look at to help for improvements.

Meanwhile as a general rule if a module is not working well this can be
escalated to the bf-admins [2]. As a last resource if someone think that
the bf-admins are not addressing things properly or in a fashionable time,
it can escalate further to Ton.

[1] -
https://code.blender.org/2021/02/module-teams-for-core-blender-development/
[2] - https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Modules#Blender

Regards,
-Dalai-

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Op wo 11 aug. 2021 om 01:17 schreef Ryan Inch via Bf-committers <
bf-committers@blender.org>:

> To the core Blender developers.
> Hello again, Collection Manager dev here.
> Let me start off by saying that I care a lot about Blender, it's been a
> huge influence on my life and an inspiring story of the little DCC app
> that could, and I want nothing but the best for it. So it highly saddens
> me that I feel I need to write this email.
>
> I've been a part of the Blender community and writing add-ons for it for
> eight years and a user of Blender for even longer.  I love the power it
> gives me to create, and have always tried to give back with what I have
> to give (Unfortunately, money is not one of those ways, so I have
> contributed code, feedback, and support instead).
>
> In 2019 I separated the Collection Manager out of a larger add-on and
> submitted it to be included in Blender as a bundled add-on on the advice
> of Brendon Murphy (meta-androcto).  Soon after my submission, I was
> contacted by Paul Kotelevets (1D_Inc) who expressed the short comings of
> the current collections system for complex scene setup and precise
> modeling that requires multiple reference images.  Together, along with
> others who gave feedback, we have advanced the usability of Blender for
> complex setups and increased the capabilities of the new collection
> system.  When I started this project I assumed that it would be highly
> welcomed, because collections were one of the pillars of the 2.8
> project, however, it was mostly ignored.  Still, I continued on with the
> project because it was useful to me and was essential to others for
> their jobs.
>
> In the year and a half I've worked on the project, I've become pretty
> familiar with the python side of collections and layer collections, but
> during that time I ran into problems that I thought would be better
> solved on the C side of Blender, so I spent ~6 months familiarizing
> myself with layer collections and attempting to solve some of the
> problems I'd run into, and then ultimately trying to stabilize layer
> collections as a first step to further improvements.  I submitted three
> patches during this time, one of which went nowhere (and rightly so),
> one of which was a draft and that I used to ask for help when stuck (to
> which was replied: Thanks for the patch, but it's up to you to present a
> working code, otherwise it's likely a loss of time for everybody...),
> and then a final one, which did contain working code.
>
> I submitted the final patch on November 18th 2020 and assigned Bastien
> Montagne, Brecht Van Lommel, and Dalai Felinto as reviewers; two months
> later I updated the patch to the latest master and linked a good test
> file I had made; ~2 weeks after that, Bastien responded that the patch
> hadn't been forgotten and that he'd just had a lot on his plate; a few
> days after this Hans Goudey (HooglyBoogly) reviewed the patch and
> provided some really good comments (he didn't have to do this and I'm
> really grateful to him), which I then addressed a couple weeks later (I
> had been busy and things didn't seem urgent); three months later I
> updated the patch to the latest master again; and then almost two months
> after that it was abandoned by Bastien who had apparently just committed
> his own solution.
>
> As you might imagine, this was fairly 

[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.08.09

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/9-august-2021/19859

Rendering

* https://devtalk.blender.org/t/2021-08-03-blender-rendering-meeting/19876

Geometry Nodes
=
* Jacques Lucke is in Amsterdam this week for another geometry-nodes
workshop.
* The main goal is to move on with the attributes proposals.
* Current prototypes in the following branches:
  * temp-geometry-nodes-expandable-geometry-socket-prototype
  * temp-geometry-nodes-fields-prototype
  * builds available in buildbot:
https://builder.blender.org/download/experimental/

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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.07.19

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/19-july-2021/19631

Announcements
=
* All the Google Summer of Code projects passed the 1st evaluation [1].

[1] - https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/GSoC/2021

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Re: [Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.07.12

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi,

It occur to me that the Blender by the Numbers 2020 report was posted last
week as well.
I updated the devtalk weekly report with the link.

Code contributions continue to increase. And the resolution and first
response time of issues are something everyone can still be proud of.

For that and more stats, check the report made by Francesco:
https://www.blender.org/press/blender-by-the-numbers-2020/

Cheers,
-Dalai-

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Op di 13 jul. 2021 om 09:47 schreef Dalai Felinto :

> Hi all,
>
> Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
> report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
> https://devtalk.blender.org/t/12-july-2021/19521
>
> Welcomes
> 
> * Jesse Yurkovich (deadpin) joins the "Platforms, Builds, Tests & Devices"
> module.
>
> Announcements
> =
> * Google Summer of Code 1st evaluation deadline is Friday 16/July 20:00
> CEST.
> * New performance testing framework [1] in master.
> ** Used for Cycles now, but developers are encouraged to use it for
> testing and tracking performance of more Blender features.
>
> Geometry Nodes
> =
>  * Nodes workshop June 2021 write up [2]
>
> [1] - https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Tools/Tests/Performance
> [2] - https://code.blender.org/2021/07/nodes-workshop-june-2021/
>
> -Dalai-
> 
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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.07.12

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/12-july-2021/19521

Welcomes

* Jesse Yurkovich (deadpin) joins the "Platforms, Builds, Tests & Devices"
module.

Announcements
=
* Google Summer of Code 1st evaluation deadline is Friday 16/July 20:00
CEST.
* New performance testing framework [1] in master.
** Used for Cycles now, but developers are encouraged to use it for testing
and tracking performance of more Blender features.

Geometry Nodes
=
 * Nodes workshop June 2021 write up [2]

[1] - https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Tools/Tests/Performance
[2] - https://code.blender.org/2021/07/nodes-workshop-june-2021/

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Re: [Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.07.05

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Hi Jacob,
I don't see how this is relevant to the different ways we can pass
attributes around in geometry nodes.

If you are trying to do something and hitting some walls, please share it
in the geometry nodes thread [1]. The general guideline is, show what you
did so far (art), how you worked around some limitations, what are the
blocking issues and the main points.

[1] - https://devtalk.blender.org/t/geometry-nodes/16108

Thanks,
-Dalai-

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Op ma 5 jul. 2021 om 21:05 schreef Jacob Merrill via Bf-committers <
bf-committers@blender.org>:

> I feel like a bit of a broken record - but in geo nodes, we don't have the
> ability to transform a vector into localspace for a object, or back to
> world space using the object matrix.
>
> in py
>
> local_vec3_out = bpy_object.matrix_world.inverted() @ vec_3_in_world_point
>
>
> world_vec3_out = bpy_object.matrix_world @ vec_3_in_local_position
>
> (this is important for a number of operations*)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 11:33 AM Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers <
> bf-committers@blender.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
> > report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
> > https://devtalk.blender.org/t/5-july-2021/19404
> >
> > Announcements
> > =
> > Asset Browser Workshop Outcomes [1]
> >
> > Modules and Projects
> > 
> > Geometry Nodes - the current design challenge is to figure out the best
> way
> > to access the attributes inside the nodetree:
> >
> > * Thoughts and Use Cases for Passing Attribute Columns [2]
> > * Attributes Sockets and Geometry Nodes 2.0 [Proposal] [3]
> > * Fields and Anonymous Attributes [Proposal] [4]
> >
> > [1] - https://code.blender.org/2021/06/asset-browser-workshop-outcomes/
> > [2] -
> >
> >
> https://devtalk.blender.org/t/thoughts-and-use-cases-for-passing-attribute-columns/19411
> > [3] -
> >
> >
> https://devtalk.blender.org/t/attributes-sockets-and-geometry-nodes-2-0-proposal/19459
> > [4] -
> >
> >
> https://devtalk.blender.org/t/fields-and-anonymous-attributes-proposal/19450
> >
> > -Dalai-
> > 
> > Dalai Felinto - da...@blender.org - www.blender.org
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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.07.05

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/5-july-2021/19404

Announcements
=
Asset Browser Workshop Outcomes [1]

Modules and Projects

Geometry Nodes - the current design challenge is to figure out the best way
to access the attributes inside the nodetree:

* Thoughts and Use Cases for Passing Attribute Columns [2]
* Attributes Sockets and Geometry Nodes 2.0 [Proposal] [3]
* Fields and Anonymous Attributes [Proposal] [4]

[1] - https://code.blender.org/2021/06/asset-browser-workshop-outcomes/
[2] -
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/thoughts-and-use-cases-for-passing-attribute-columns/19411
[3] -
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/attributes-sockets-and-geometry-nodes-2-0-proposal/19459
[4] -
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/fields-and-anonymous-attributes-proposal/19450

-Dalai-

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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.06.28

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/28-june-2021/19312

Announcements
=
* Canonical Offering Blender Support [1]
* Nodes workshop write up [2]

Modules & Projects
===
* Geometry Nodes sprint planning [3]

[1] - https://www.blender.org/press/canonical-offering-blender-support/
[2] - https://devtalk.blender.org/t/nodes-workshop-22-25-june-2021/19321
[3] -
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/2021-06-18-geometry-nodes-sub-module-meeting/19402

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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.06.21

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/21-june-2021/19218

Announcements
=
* Asset Creation Pipeline Design - blogpost [1].
* Nodes workshop from Tuesday to Friday - write will happen on devtalk [2].
* The development metrics site has a new activity graph [3].

Modules & Projects
===
* Geometry Nodes #3 project ended  - retrospective [4].

[1] - https://code.blender.org/2021/06/asset-creation-pipeline-design/
[2] - https://devtalk.blender.org/c/blender/geometry-nodes/25
[3] - https://metrics.blender.org/d/LvXl59qMz/blender-patches?orgId=1
[4] -
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/2021-06-18-retrospective-geometry-nodes-3/19283

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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.06.14

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/14-june-2021/19136

Welcome
===
William Leeson (leesonw) new senior Cycles developer hired by the Blender
Institute. He will be working remote.

Announcements
=
* Blender 3.0 postponed to late October.
* Nodes workshop in Amsterdam - June 22 to 18.
* Asset Browser Project Update [1]

[1] - https://code.blender.org/2021/06/asset-browser-project-update/

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Re: [Bf-committers] Blender 2.93 Released!

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

As for the "fancy" release notes. Not everything that is in the wiki shows
up there.

The communication team makes a selection on what is worth showing, what to
simply mention, and what to leave only to the wiki. The "Blender Features
in 5 minutes" and the reel editors also reverse the right to pick and
choose what is highlighted.

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Op vr 11 jun. 2021 om 15:11 schreef Brecht Van Lommel via Bf-committers <
bf-committers@blender.org>:

> Personally, I wouldn't change this.
>
> Add-ons authors are credited in the add-on preferences, where you go to
> enable the add-on. The fact that they are bundled rather than installed
> from an online repository (which is what we should do eventually) makes
> little practical difference I think.
>
> For the release notes, I don't think we should be putting much emphasis on
> add-ons that often have a UI/UX and design different than core Blender,
> usually created by individuals without review. The freedom to do that
> creates very useful functionality and leads to fast development, but I
> wouldn't market that as part of Blender the product in the same way.
>
> The way I see it is that as an add-on author you get both the freedom and
> the responsibility for development, docs, and marketing. If anything we
> should decouple such things more, rather than integrating them.
>
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 6:07 AM Ryan Inch via Bf-committers <
> bf-committers@blender.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Dalai,
> > I'm not talking about an add-on in particular, I'm referring to add-ons
> > in general.
> >
> > In regard to your first point, we are agreed that the credit gen script
> > is skipping add-ons; however, from what you've shown me, it looks like
> > it would be easy to support.  So I'm wondering why it is that add-ons
> > are being skipped and what can be done to correct it for the 2.93
> release?
> >
> > In regard to your second point, I am aware that it is the responsibility
> > of the developer to document changes in the wiki release notes, I do so
> > for every release, and I thank you for your willingness to help with any
> > problems accessing the wiki.  I was, however, referring to the fancier
> > release notes [1] that are compiled from the wiki release notes, and
> > that these have been lacking a section for add-ons recently.  So, what
> > is required to have an add-ons section added to the 'fancy' release
> notes?
> >
> > Ryan
> >
> > [1] https://www.blender.org/download/releases/2-93/
> >
> > On 2021-06-07 06:00 AM, bf-committers-requ...@blender.org wrote:
> > > Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 10:05:36 +0200
> > > From: Dalai Felinto
> > > To: bf-blender developers
> > > Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] Blender 2.93 Released!
> > > Message-ID:
> > >> zavhavyzc5rws4jbbg1m...@mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > >
> > > Hi Ryan,
> > > Are you talking about an add-on in particular? There are two related
> but
> > > separate topics in your email:
> > >
> > > 1. Contributors credit
> > > The script that generates the credits [1] is indeed be skipping the
> > add-on
> > > repositories.
> > >
> > > 2. Release notes
> > > It is the responsibility of any developer that contributes code, to
> > > document the changes and mention them in the (wiki) release notes [2].
> If
> > > an add-on maintainer needs wiki access they can contact me directly via
> > > email or as dfelinto in blender.chat.
> > >
> > > [1] -
> > >
> >
> https://developer.blender.org/diffusion/BDT/browse/master/utils/credits_git_gen.py
> > > [2] -
> https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Reference/Release_Notes/2.93/Add-ons
> > >
> > > -Dalai-
> > > 
> > > Dalai Felinto -da...@blender.org  -www.blender.org
> > > Blender Development Coordinator
> > > Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
> > >
> > >
> > > Op za 5 jun. 2021 om 07:10 schreef Ryan Inch via Bf-committers <
> > > bf-committers@blender.org>:
> > >
> > >> Congratulations on the release!  Everything looks good, there seems to
> > >> be tons of great improvements,
> > >> and the reels are quite impressive.
> > >>
> > >> However, I have noticed that Add-ons are treated differently in the
> > >> release notes.  Judging by the emails from the bf-extensions mailing
> > >> list, many of the Add-ons bundled with Blender receive dozens of
> updates
> > >> between each release, but this hasn't lately been advertised in the
> > >> release notes (aside from the occasional mention in @SouthernShotty's
> 5
> > >> minute videos, very grateful to him for that), plus the
> > >> authors/maintainers and their commits to these Add-ons don't seem to
> be
> > >> credited on the credits page[1].  Since the Add-ons are bundled with
> > >> Blender, is there a 

Re: [Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.06.07

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Oops, I forgot to mention the update on the Asset Browser project:

Asset Browser
===
* A four day workshop took place (remotely) to work on the asset system
design and plan the 3.0 targets.
* A number of stakeholders with various backgrounds were involved (Blender
Studio, BlenderKit, PyClone, sculpt module).
* The workshop helped making significant progress in design & planning.
* Outcomes will be presented soon.

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Op di 8 jun. 2021 om 16:36 schreef Dalai Felinto :

> Hi all,
>
> Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
> report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
> https://devtalk.blender.org/t/07-june-2021/19041
>
> Welcomes
> 
> * Christoph Lendenfeld commit access to work on Animation & Rigging.
> * Peter Kim grant recipient to work part time on OpenXR/VR.
> * Pratik Borhade grant recipient to work in the bug tracker.
>
> Announcements
> =
> * Blender 2.93 LTS released on Wednesday, June 2.
> * EEVEE refactor / future announcement [1].
> * Google Summer of Code [2] officially started.
>
> [1] - https://code.blender.org/2021/06/eevees-future/
> [2] - https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/GSoC/2021
>
> -Dalai-
> 
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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.06.07

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Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/07-june-2021/19041

Welcomes

* Christoph Lendenfeld commit access to work on Animation & Rigging.
* Peter Kim grant recipient to work part time on OpenXR/VR.
* Pratik Borhade grant recipient to work in the bug tracker.

Announcements
=
* Blender 2.93 LTS released on Wednesday, June 2.
* EEVEE refactor / future announcement [1].
* Google Summer of Code [2] officially started.

[1] - https://code.blender.org/2021/06/eevees-future/
[2] - https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/GSoC/2021

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Re: [Bf-committers] Blender 2.93 Released!

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Hi Ryan,
Are you talking about an add-on in particular? There are two related but
separate topics in your email:

1. Contributors credit
The script that generates the credits [1] is indeed be skipping the add-on
repositories.

2. Release notes
It is the responsibility of any developer that contributes code, to
document the changes and mention them in the (wiki) release notes [2]. If
an add-on maintainer needs wiki access they can contact me directly via
email or as dfelinto in blender.chat.

[1] -
https://developer.blender.org/diffusion/BDT/browse/master/utils/credits_git_gen.py
[2] - https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Reference/Release_Notes/2.93/Add-ons

-Dalai-

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Op za 5 jun. 2021 om 07:10 schreef Ryan Inch via Bf-committers <
bf-committers@blender.org>:

> Congratulations on the release!  Everything looks good, there seems to
> be tons of great improvements,
> and the reels are quite impressive.
>
> However, I have noticed that Add-ons are treated differently in the
> release notes.  Judging by the emails from the bf-extensions mailing
> list, many of the Add-ons bundled with Blender receive dozens of updates
> between each release, but this hasn't lately been advertised in the
> release notes (aside from the occasional mention in @SouthernShotty's 5
> minute videos, very grateful to him for that), plus the
> authors/maintainers and their commits to these Add-ons don't seem to be
> credited on the credits page[1].  Since the Add-ons are bundled with
> Blender, is there a reason that they aren't credited at release?
>
> If the reason for this is, in part, that authors/maintainers aren't
> adding their changes to the wiki version of the
> release notes in time, then I would like to inquire as to when the
> cutoff for editing the wiki is to make it into the
> release notes, or what else could be done to have them included?
>
> Ryan Inch (Imaginer)
> Developer of the Collection Manager Add-on.
>
> [1] https://www.blender.org/about/credits/
>
> On 2021-06-03 06:00 AM, bf-committers-requ...@blender.org wrote:
> > --
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2021 19:18:32 +0200
> > From: Dalai Felinto 
> > To: bf-blender developers 
> > Subject: [Bf-committers] Blender 2.93 Released!
> > Message-ID:
> >   <
> cakd4fwfyvsxy6ftazypgudjtnnxow1ftewsza4j5kbuwjkn...@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Hi,
> > Blender 2.93 LTS is officially released.
> >
> > The release notes are here:
> > https://www.blender.org/download/releases/2-93/
> >
> > You can check two great videos with everything 2.93 related:
> > * Reel: https://youtu.be/fxNlpQYRz7s
> > * Features: https://youtu.be/mnnMFJ3iWH0
> >
> > Congratulations everyone!
> > -Dalai-
> > 
> > Dalai Felinto - da...@blender.org - www.blender.org
> > Blender Development Coordinator
> > Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
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Re: [Bf-committers] Deprecation of Phabricator

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Hi Sebastian,

Which features you are referring to? CI/CD?

Thanks,
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Op do 3 jun. 2021 om 18:43 schreef Sebastian Parborg via Bf-committers <
bf-committers@blender.org>:

> Just to keep everyone up to speed:
>
> We talked a bit more on blender.chat and currently we are a bit sceptical
> if we should go with gitlab as we might want to use some of its premium
> features. Those are not part of the open source core, so that means
> those are not free and open source software.
>
> Therefore we are still going to evaluate other alternatives as well and
> see which one gives us as much freedom and features as possible.
>
> Regards,
> Sebastian Parborg
>
> On Thu, Jun 03, 2021 at 11:26:35AM +0200, Ton Roosendaal via Bf-committers
> wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I regularly have discussions with people around me about our
> > infrastructure. For as long Blender has been open source, almost 20
> > years, I've always pushed for the highest level of independence from
> > external service providers, specifically when it comes to our core
> > activities.
> >
> > That comes at a price though. I'm aware of the great set of tools that
> > are being offered by Github nowadays. They make a good product. But I
> > also see how such services take away essential freedoms from developers.
> > If your activities becomes cloud based (compiling, testing, debugging,
> > deploying) you allow a lot of control over your project by a third party.
> >
> > This doesn't make Github bad by itself, please use it if you wish. It
> > just means (for us) to keep the focus on our mission - which is to
> > further the freedom for everyone to make and use open source 3D
> > technology. That freedom applies to artists as well as developers. Or
> > said differently;
> >
> > - everyone should have the freedom to develop Blender and participate in
> > blender.org projects.
> >
> >  From the information I have, Gitlab seems to offer exactly what we need
> > for Blender to remain independent, keep up with the latest trends for
> > engineering and to offer this to an online community with a free/open
> > source license.
> >
> > I look forward to a further investigation of this topic. Meanwhile I can
> > reach out to Gitlab to check on what support they're willing to offer to
> us.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -Ton-
> >
> > --
> > Ton Roosendaal - t...@blender.org - www.blender.org
> > Chairman Blender Foundation, CEO Blender Institute / Studio
> > Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
> >
> >
> > On 31/05/2021 18:26, Sergey Sharybin via Bf-committers wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Just wanted to let everyone know that today Phacility announced that
> > > development of Phabricator is phasing out [1] [2].
> > >
> > > This does not affect the Blender project immediately, but we need to
> find a
> > > solution to the situation (be it a fork of Phabricator, or be it a
> > > migration to some other platform). There is no plan of action yet, it
> will
> > > be looked into in the coming time. We will keep you posted with
> updates on
> > > the topic.
> > >
> > > Would like to mention that Sebastian Parborg together with Dalai are
> > > working on a plan of action. At some point we'll share it with Blender
> > > developers, triagers, and the community. So don't be surprised :)
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> https://admin.phacility.com/phame/post/view/11/phacility_is_winding_down_operations/
> > > [2] https://secure.phabricator.com/
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > - Sergey -
> > > 
> > > Sergey Sharybin - ser...@blender.org - www.blender.org
> > > Principal Software Engineer, Blender
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[Bf-committers] Blender 2.93 Released!

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Hi,
Blender 2.93 LTS is officially released.

The release notes are here:
https://www.blender.org/download/releases/2-93/

You can check two great videos with everything 2.93 related:
* Reel: https://youtu.be/fxNlpQYRz7s
* Features: https://youtu.be/mnnMFJ3iWH0

Congratulations everyone!
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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.05.31

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Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/31-may-2021/18978

Announcements
=
* Buildbot updated.
* Blender 2.93 release is on track - estimate date: June 2.
* Initial metrics support for patches [1].
* Blender OSS and Licenses article [2].

Modules & Projects
===
* Line Art weekly meeting: 2021-05-28 Blender LineArt Meeting [3]
* Geometry Nodes starts the week 6 of the current 6-8 project - focus for
the wrapping up is curves, viewer node and attribute processor. [4]


[1] - https://metrics.blender.org/d/LvXl59qMz/blender-patches?orgId=1
[2] - https://code.blender.org/2021/05/blender-oss-and-licenses/
[3] - https://devtalk.blender.org/t/2021-05-28-blender-lineart-meeting/19018
[4] -
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/2021-06-01-geometry-nodes-sub-module-meeting/19033

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[Bf-committers] Blender license compliance (blogpost)

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Hi,
I've just posted about the changes made in Blender in the past year
regarding its license compliance:

https://code.blender.org/2021/05/blender-oss-and-licenses/

Starting officially in Blender 2.93, the source is shared in two ways.
First the usual tarball with the Blender code. Second, with a more complete
tarball including the source of all the libraries Blender links to.

After 2.93 this will get even better. There is a plan to support making the
source using the libraries straight from the downloaded tarball.

Thanks everyone who contributed to this. I'm very happy to see this
year-long endeavor coming to a happy ending.

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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.05.25

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Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/25-may-2021/18876

Announcements
=
* Blender 2.93 release postponed to June 2.
* Mesh Editing Optimization – Initial Steps [1]
* Pose Library v2.0. [2]

[1] -
https://code.blender.org/2021/05/mesh-editing-optimization-initial-steps/
[2] - https://code.blender.org/2021/05/pose-library-v2-0/

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[Bf-committers] New 2.93 release date: June 2

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Hi everyone,
The 2.93 release will move to the next week's Wednesday (June 2).

Some of the reasons for this:
* There is still one (T88250) crash that we are trying to fix for 2.93.
* The number of untriaged reports >400 is too high and going up [1]. I want
to check with the triaging team if there is no high priority issues among
them.
* Last minute buildbot fixes last Friday.

Basically we are postponing it to make sure the release can be more tested
and is stable enough. We already got the number of high priority issues to
plummet remarkably [2].

[1] -
https://metrics.blender.org/d/9TZngd9Gk/blender-development?viewPanel=13
[2] -
https://metrics.blender.org/d/9TZngd9Gk/blender-development?viewPanel=7=1

Thanks for everyone's comprehension,
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[Bf-committers] Welcome to Blender 2.93 bcon4

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Hello everyone,

Blender 2.93 is now officially in the bcon4 stage. The plan is to release
it next week.

blender-v2.93-release is now considered frozen to prepare for the release.
Only critical and carefully reviewed bug fixes allowed.

It is important to keep an eye in the tracker for any unexpected high
priority regression. This will be a LTS release, however that should not
stop us from having the critical fixes in for the release itself.

Thanks,
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[Bf-committers] Google Summer of Code 2021 - Accepted Projects

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Hi,
8 projects were accepted for the Google Summer of Code (GSoC) this year:

* "Adaptive Cloth Simulator" by Ish Bosamiya.
* "Curve Improvements" by Dilith Jayakody.
* "Display simulation data for rigid bodies and cloth" by Soumya Pochiraju.
* "Knife Tool Improvements" by Cian Jinks.
* "Porting popular modifiers to Geometry Nodes" by Fabian Schempp.
* "Regression Testing of Geometry Nodes" by Himanshi Kalra.
* "UV Editor Improvements" by Siddhartha Jejurkar.
* "Video Sequence Editor strip previews and modification indicators"
by Aditya Jeppu.

The official link for the accepted projects is:
https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/5908114009751552/#!

Throughout the following weeks the students will be setting up their wiki
accounts and port their proposals over to:
https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/GSoC/2021

Welcome everyone! Please join blender.chat and start talking to your
mentors and the community on #blender-coders. GSoC announcements and
deadlines will be on #gsoc-2021 channel.

Thanks everyone who sent a proposal and Google for making this possible.
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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.05.17

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Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/17-may-2021/18801

Announcements
=
* Blender 2.93 bcon4 this Wednesday (19/May).
* Google Summer of Code projects announcement today (17/May) at 20:00 CEST.
* Next Monday is a holiday in the Netherlands - the weekly notes will come
out on Tuesday.

Modules and projects with notes this week
=
* Documentation Project Update [1]

[1] - https://devtalk.blender.org/t/documentation-project-update/18808

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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.05.10

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Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/10-may-2021/18707

Announcements

Google Summer of Code: Final accepted projects will be known Thursday
13/May at 20:00 CEST.

Modules and projects with notes this week
=
* Grease Pencil (LineArt).
* Library Overrides (Meeting with Blender Studio about the pipeline for
Sprite Fright).
* Geometry Nodes (Weekly planning + more sample files).

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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.05.03

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Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/03-may-2021/18590

Announcements
=
* New tagging system for meetings in devtalk.
* Final Google Summer of Code slots requested today.
* Geometry Nodes is having regular meetings on Mondays 14:00 CEST.

Modules and projects with notes this week
=
* Rendering
* Geometry Nodes
* Asset Browser & Pose Libraries

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Re: [Bf-committers] Tagging of meeting notes

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Hi Metin,
Thanks for bringing this up. I did some changes to address that:

* Tagged all the meetings with #meeting
* Renamed "Weekly Development Notes" → "Weekly Updates"
* Renamed "Meetings Archive" → "Other Meetings"
* Updated
https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Communication/Contact#Decisions_and_Planning

I would like to take this opportunity to encourage the modules to use the
"Weekly Updates" post as the goto place for anything related to Blender
weekly-updates.

In the simplest of the cases it can be a link to a module meeting notes. In
some cases can be sharing images, in-progress features, ... The notes of
the past few weeks have a few examples of this.

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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.04.26

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Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/26-april-2021/18478

Welcome
===
* Manuel Castilla (manzanilla) is receiving a development grant to help
with Compositor development.

Announcements

* Cycles-X [1]
* Blender 2021 roadmap [2]
* 2.93 Bug sprint #2 week [3]
* The experimental development dashboard is in a new website [4].

Google Summer of Code
===
* Meeting on Monday 3/May at 11:00 CEST on #gsoc-2021-mentors (private
channel).
* Any developer interested on mentoring or helping reviewing the tasks
reach out to Dalai Felinto or Ton Roosendaal.

Modules and projects with notes this week
=
* Asset browser
* Geometry Nodes
* User Interface

[1] - https://code.blender.org/2021/04/cycles-x/
[2] - https://code.blender.org/2021/04/blender-2021-roadmap/
[3] -
https://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-committers/2021-April/050977.html
[4] - https://metrics.blender.org/d/9TZngd9Gk/blender-development

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Re: [Bf-committers] 2.93 Bug Sprint

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> An experimental dashboard is checking daily for the number of new reports
(...)

The dashboard is here now: https://metrics.blender.org/d/9TZngd9Gk
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[Bf-committers] 2.93 Bug Sprint

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Hi,

In preparation for the upcoming release of Blender 2.93, there is another
bug sprint this week [1]. It goes from Apr 26 to 30.

At the moment there are 714 bugs, of which 9 are high priority and other 11
are potential high priority issues yet to be confirmed by the modules.

An experimental dashboard is checking daily for the number of new reports,
accumulated untriaged reports and other metrics [2].

[1] - https://code.blender.org/2020/07/bug-sprints/
[2] -
http://82.196.8.11:3000/d/NdBR25_Mz/blender-development?orgId=1=now-3M=now-1d

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[Bf-committers] Blender Development 2021 Planning

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Hi,

There is a new article in the development blog with the proposal for the
overall 2021 planning:
https://code.blender.org/2021/04/blender-2021-roadmap/

Regards,
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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.04.19

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Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/19-april-2021/18374

Welcome
===
* Ankit Meel is receiving a development grant to help with bug triaging.

Announcements
=
* Blender 2.93 bcon3 and 3.0 bcon1
* 10 years of Cycles this Friday, April 23.
* The GSoC deadline for students proposals submission is over.

Modules and projects with notes this week
=
No module or project activity reported this week.

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[Bf-committers] Now at 2.93 Bcon3 (and 3.0 Bcon1)

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Hi all,

We have now entered the next phase of the release cycle. The focus for bug
fixing is on the 2.93 beta.

We are also starting the 3.0 release cycle. This will be the first release
with the new version numbering system:
https://code.blender.org/2020/02/release-planning-2020-2025/

There are some pending issues on how we parse the version number. The
official task to keep track of these is:
https://developer.blender.org/T87532

--

For more details on how the new overlapping release cycles work, see here:
https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Process/Release_Cycle

In short, Blender 2.93 now continues in the blender-v2.93-release branch,
for bug fixing only. Blender 3.0 development started in the master branch,
for new features.

For more details on how to commit and merge, see here:
https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Process/Using_Stabilizing_Branch

During bcon3 patch review is highly encouraged. Please try to get a pair of
eyes on your changes before they are sent to blender-v2.93-release. For
bcon4 (May 19) patch review is mandatory in the release branch.

Best regards,
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[Bf-committers] Blender 2.93 bcon3 delay

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Hi,
I will need to push bcon3 at least one day forward.

Missing features:
* Spreadsheet: Breadcrumbs and node pinning (D10931).
* Geometry Nodes workspace (T86499).
* Splashscreen (waiting for author to reply).

The other spreadsheet feature will be postponed to 3.0:
* Spreadsheet Editor: Row filters (D10959)

I will share an update tomorrow,
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Re: [Bf-committers] Blender 2.93 bcon3 confirmation 13/Apr 11AM CEST

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Meeting notes:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/2021-04-13-blender-2-93-bcon3-meeting/18373

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Op ma 12 apr. 2021 om 17:06 schreef Dalai Felinto :

> Hi,
>
> I would like to propose a meeting on blender.chat next Tuesday (13/Apr) at
> 11:00 CEST for the modules to confirm that we are ready for bcon3.
>
> The idea is to go over the original 2.93 targets [1] and see iif anything
> didn't make, if there is any decision to be made, if we need to postpone
> bcon3, ...
>
> Any module is welcome to preemptively update the meetings notes [2] with
> the module status already [2].
>
> [1] - https://devtalk.blender.org/t/2021-03-15-blender-2-93-targets/17902/
> [2] -
> https://devtalk.blender.org/t/2021-04-13-blender-2-93-bcon3-meeting/18373
>
> See you then,
> -Dalai-
> 
> Dalai Felinto - da...@blender.org - www.blender.org
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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.04.12

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/12-apr-2021/18297

Announcements

* Google Summer Code deadline for proposals is Tuesday April 13th.
 * Mentors then have 3 weeks to review and decide on the applicants.
* Blender 2.93 bcon3 meeting Tuesday April 13, 11:00 CEST

Modules and projects with notes this week
=
* Nodes & Physics (geometry nodes) - sprint planning

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[Bf-committers] Blender 2.93 bcon3 confirmation 13/Apr 11AM CEST

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Hi,

I would like to propose a meeting on blender.chat next Tuesday (13/Apr) at
11:00 CEST for the modules to confirm that we are ready for bcon3.

The idea is to go over the original 2.93 targets [1] and see iif anything
didn't make, if there is any decision to be made, if we need to postpone
bcon3, ...

Any module is welcome to preemptively update the meetings notes [2] with
the module status already [2].

[1] - https://devtalk.blender.org/t/2021-03-15-blender-2-93-targets/17902/
[2] -
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/2021-04-13-blender-2-93-bcon3-meeting/18373

See you then,
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Re: [Bf-committers] Interested in GSOC projects

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Hi Kunwar,

Have you had a chance to go over the getting started guide?
https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/GSoC/Getting_Started

Cheers,
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Op za 10 apr. 2021 om 07:35 schreef Kunwar Kuldeep Srivastava via
Bf-committers :

> Hello
> I am a second year student pursuing my Bachelors in Electronics and
> Communicating Engineering from University of Allahabad, India.
> I am also taking CS50x, an online program of Introduction to Computer
> Science by Harvard University.
>
> The programming knowledge I currently posses restricts itself to only one
> language which is C. Your GSOC projects
> 1. Automated Testing - Core Library Tests
> 2. Video Sequence Editor - Editing Tools
> have requirements falling in domain of my knowledge. I have written c
> programs for backing up lost images from a FAT32 memory card, encoding
> decoding programs, programs to create a photo editor etc and these are
> toughest projects I have done yet.
>
> This being my first step in the world of open sources, I am a little
> sceptical of my capabilities for eligibility. I would be thankful if
> someone from mentoring team helps me decide if I am the right person for
> this project.
> Thank You
>
> Regards
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[Bf-committers] 2.93 Sprint Bug Sprint

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Hi everyone,
This comes a bit late, but welcome to the first bug sprint [1] week of the
2.93 release cycle [2]. It goes from Apr 5 to 9.

Now the development is concentrated in the modules and projects there is
less reasons to do this as a centralized effort. That said, some developers
were asking for an official week for this.

---

Next week the beta is announced and we need to set the bug tracker in a
good state to welcome new reports pouring in. The numbers of reports is a
bit alarming at the moment, so:

Bug triagers:
* To help with questions regarding how to help triaging, check the
#blender-triagers channel.
* An experimental dashboard is checking daily for the number of new
reports, accumulated untriaged reports and other metrics [3].

Modules:
* Assign / claim high priority issues
* Tag as 3.0 any high priority issue that is not planned to be addressed by
2.93.
* Classify the bugs, even if there will be no time to work on them.
* As always feel free to move bugs and unclassified reports as known issues
if they won't be tackled soon.

[1] https://code.blender.org/2020/07/bug-sprints/
[2] https://developer.blender.org/project/view/125/
[3] http://82.196.8.11:3000/goto/bovKAc_Mk

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Re: [Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.04.05

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Correct link: https://devtalk.blender.org/t/05-april-2021/18191

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Op di 6 apr. 2021 om 16:30 schreef Dalai Felinto :

> Hi all,
>
> Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
> report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:
>
> https://devtalk.blender.org/t/05-april-2021
>
> Announcements
> 
> * Geometry nodes development discussion channel was renamed to
> #geometry-nodes.
>
> Modules and projects with notes this week
> =
> * Nodes & Physics
>
> -Dalai-
> 
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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.04.05

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Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:

https://devtalk.blender.org/t/05-april-2021

Announcements

* Geometry nodes development discussion channel was renamed to
#geometry-nodes.

Modules and projects with notes this week
=
* Nodes & Physics

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Re: [Bf-committers] Are there any small patches I could try out?

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Hi Ashely,
Welcome.

A good way to get started is to go over bug reports that involve crash and
try to bisect the issue to the faulty commit. You can also to share a full
backtrace of the crash to help further investigation, like this:
https://developer.blender.org/T80104#1002511

Also keep in mind that there are plenty of bugs that may be a good
candidate but have not been tagged as "Good First Issue" simply because no
one started to investigate them.

To find janitor work it may be easier to join the development channel
#blender-coders on https://blender.chat and see if any module has already
something ready for that.

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Op do 1 apr. 2021 om 00:40 schreef Jacob Merrill via Bf-committers <
bf-committers@blender.org>:

> I would take something you may want to work on
> like eevee, or depsgraph, or cycles, and take time and understand how it
> works,
> and then look at right_click_select and try implementing stuff,
>
> even if it never gets submitted it's a good practice to start thumbing
> through the code
> some of these may be pretty easy.
>
> https://blender.community/c/rightclickselect/
>
> blender.chat 
> also go to #blender-coders and hang around (quietly) and solve stuff if you
> can.
> I am too noisy :(
>
>
> if you liked the old bge
> https://github.com/UPBGE/upbge
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 3:24 PM Toni Alatalo via Bf-committers <
> bf-committers@blender.org> wrote:
>
> > bleh sorry, too bad no undo in email, just noticed that you had checked
> > that already.
> >
> > I don't have suggestions beyond that .. maybe you can test making some
> very
> > simple changes to some part of the functionality you know, maybe add some
> > menu entry just as a test etc.
> >
> > It's true that fixing actual bugs easily requires quite a lot of
> knowledge
> > about the codebase etc.
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 1:21 AM Toni Alatalo  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi - there is a tag for that in the tracker, which collects potential
> > > tasks nicely:
> > > https://developer.blender.org/tag/good_first_issue/
> > >
> > > It was made I think a few years ago but seems to be nicely active with
> > > updates from yesterday etc.
> > >
> > > -Toni
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 5:34 PM Hyunseo Cho via Bf-committers <
> > > bf-committers@blender.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi!
> > >>
> > >> I'm completely new to Blender development but have some coding
> > experience.
> > >> I have also managed to build Blender on my device and have been
> looking
> > >> over the source code. I would like to get started with a small, quick
> > >> patch
> > >> (aka Janitor work) just to get used to the process- but even the bugs
> > >> listed in "good first issues" seem difficult for me at this point. Are
> > >> there any suggestions for something I could try?
> > >>
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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.03.29

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Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:

https://devtalk.blender.org/t/29-march-2021/18112

Announcements

* Code quality day [1] will get some changes, more details later on
bf-committers.

Modules and projects with notes this week

* Geometry Nodes

[1] - https://code.blender.org/2020/11/code-quality-day/

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[Bf-committers] Accepted patches waiting to be committed

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Hi,

I went over all the "accepted" patches in the phabricator. Some of them
have been accepted by all reviewers already and I urge the developers to
either:

1. Commit them
2. Close them
3. Change status to "Plan Changes" or similar.

* Brecht: D9177, D8123
* Clément: D9305, D9795
* Pablo Dobarro: D9362, D9619, D9418, D9168, D8764, D8640, D8163, D7808,
D6008, D6426
* Sergey: D9220, D7423, D4906
* Yiming Wu: D9548
* Julian Eisel: D9853, D5188 (UI: though it may be out of date)
* Kévin Dietrich: D8751
* Jeroen: D7138, D7046
* Campbell: D9857

For the other accepted that had only a few reviewer accepting it, I changed
the other reviewers as blocking.

Developers should feel comfortable after accepting a patch to either remove
the other reviewers or to set them as blocking. That way the "Accepted"
status can be taken for real.

There are also really old patches (2016, 2017). I left them untouched for
now. But developers feel free to close them/commit.

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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.03.22

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:

https://devtalk.blender.org/t/22-march-2021/17994

Announcements
=
* Grease Pencil Bezier stroke type (T85754) was postponed to next release.
* Habib Gahbiche presented a webinar on contributing to Blender [1], aimed
at potential Google Summer of Code students.

Modules and projects with notes this week

* Animation & Rigging
* Geometry Nodes

[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8hIs48VQLk

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Re: [Bf-committers] 2.93 modules roadmap confirmation 15/Mar 11 CET

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Hi,
I added the targets to the 2.93 project page [1].

The idea is (for me) to only tick them out if they are committed (most of
them are) and documented (with an image an demo file when possible). Some
of them may be ready already, but I will check the documentations and
overall features in another moment.

If any module has good high-quality demo files please reach out to Metin
Seven. He can help checking the quality of the files and upload them to the
demo files page [2].

[1] - https://developer.blender.org/project/manage/125/
[2] - https://www.blender.org/download/demo-files/

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Op ma 15 mrt. 2021 om 15:27 schreef Dalai Felinto :

> Hi,
>
> These are the modules targets / meeting notes:
> https://devtalk.blender.org/t/2021-03-15-blender-2-93-targets/17902
>
> Thanks everyone for joining. The meeting was long (2 hours + some time to
> wrap up VFX later). But I think it was useful, with a lot of participation
> and to the point. If anyone has any feedback on how we can do these release
> meetings in the future let me know.
>
> Best regards,
> -Dalai-
> 
> Dalai Felinto - da...@blender.org - www.blender.org
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> Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
>
>
> Op ma 8 mrt. 2021 om 21:35 schreef Dalai Felinto :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would like to propose a meeting on blender.chat next Monday (15/Mar) at
>> 11:00 CET for the modules to present their 2.93 targets.
>>
>> The modules can prepare a list of the planned new features, and their
>> current state ahead of time. I created a placeholder to help with that.
>> During the meeting I will move this to hackmd so we can edit it at the same
>> time.
>>
>> https://devtalk.blender.org/t/2021-03-15-blender-2-93-targets/17902
>>
>> At the meeting we then go over them in order and confirm the targets and
>> their feasibility.
>>
>> Let me know what you think of this idea,
>> -Dalai-
>> 
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>>
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[Bf-committers] Blender 2.93 bcon2

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Hi,
We are officially in 2.93 bcon2 [1].

"Work to improve, optimize and fix bugs in new and existing features. Only
smaller and less risky changes should be made in this phase."

Status update:
* Grease pencil new modules for Import and Export was postponed (D10482).
* Compositor: Add Anti-Aliasing node (D2411) can be merged early in bcon2
if the VFX module decides to do so.
* Sculpting tools were supposed to be merged as experimental until they got
icons but have not been merged yet (T85376). It is not clear yet if they
were postponed or what happened.

[1] - https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Process/Release_Cycle

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[Bf-committers] Blender 2.93 bcon2 delay

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Hi,

Nothing alarming but I had a too busy day and I didn't manage to stop to
double check if everything planned got in (*).

So I'm moving bcon2 one day at least so I can do things properly tomorrow.
The bcon1 to bcon2 is mostly an internal formality anyways so this should
not impact the ongoing projects. That said I think it is important to
communicate this properly.

(*) - I know Grease Pencil was still debating about the edit curves for
instance. Also I'm glad Line Art was merged already.

Thanks,
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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.03.15

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:

https://devtalk.blender.org/t/15-march-2021/17901

Annoucements
===
* Blender 2.93 release targets [1].

Modules and projects with notes this week

* Geometry Nodes
* Library Overrides

[1] - https://devtalk.blender.org/t/2021-03-15-blender-2-93-targets/17902

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Re: [Bf-committers] 2.93 modules roadmap confirmation 15/Mar 11 CET

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi,

These are the modules targets / meeting notes:
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/2021-03-15-blender-2-93-targets/17902

Thanks everyone for joining. The meeting was long (2 hours + some time to
wrap up VFX later). But I think it was useful, with a lot of participation
and to the point. If anyone has any feedback on how we can do these release
meetings in the future let me know.

Best regards,
-Dalai-

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Op ma 8 mrt. 2021 om 21:35 schreef Dalai Felinto :

> Hi,
>
> I would like to propose a meeting on blender.chat next Monday (15/Mar) at
> 11:00 CET for the modules to present their 2.93 targets.
>
> The modules can prepare a list of the planned new features, and their
> current state ahead of time. I created a placeholder to help with that.
> During the meeting I will move this to hackmd so we can edit it at the same
> time.
>
> https://devtalk.blender.org/t/2021-03-15-blender-2-93-targets/17902
>
> At the meeting we then go over them in order and confirm the targets and
> their feasibility.
>
> Let me know what you think of this idea,
> -Dalai-
> 
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Re: [Bf-committers] No Monday or Tuesday meetings for the time being

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kly notes [1].
> > > * Developers keep adding their weekly reports there.
> > > * Everyone adds relevant announcements there
> > > * [new] Modules and projects then add their notes there as well,
> > > asynchronously.
> > > * [new] At the end of Mondays I do a final pass in the page and post it
> > > here.
> > >
> > > [1] - https://devtalk.blender.org/t/15-february-2021-upcoming/17475.
> > >
> > > Any feedback is welcome.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > -Dalai-
> > > 
> > > Dalai Felinto - da...@blender.org - www.blender.org
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> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 09:45:11 -0700
> > > From: Ray Molenkamp 
> > > To: bf-committers@blender.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] No Monday or Tuesday meetings for the
> > >   time being
> > > Message-ID: <036450a5-c108-c588-0766-e60cc14d4...@lazydodo.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > >
> > > That seems somewhat strange and out of the blue (at least for me), the
> > lack of reasoning for putting them on hold especially for the Tuesday
> ones
> > you seem fond of is concerning, what am i missing here?
> > >
> > > --Ray
> > >
> > > On 2021-02-08 9:33 a.m., Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers wrote:
> > >> Hi,
> > >> The Monday (developers) and the Tuesday (modules) meetings are
> > currently on
> > >> hold. The Monday one has very little quorum and is rarely useful.
> > >>
> > >> The Tuesday talks (module meetings) are quite a joy actually and I
> will
> > >> miss talking to the modules owners 1:1. But they have always being
> more
> > >> like a  healthy check then a permanent solution. What we need instead
> > is to
> > >> make sure the modules are properly structured and can operate
> > autonomously.
> > >> But this is a separate topic.
> > >>
> > >> I have a new idea on how to do the weekly communication of the ongoing
> > >> module and projects:
> > >>
> > >> * We keep the weekly online page in devtalk for the weekly notes [1].
> > >> * Developers keep adding their weekly reports there.
> > >> * Everyone adds relevant announcements there
> > >> * [new] Modules and projects then add their notes there as well,
> > >> asynchronously.
> > >> * [new] At the end of Mondays I do a final pass in the page and post
> it
> > >> here.
> > >>
> > >> [1] - https://devtalk.blender.org/t/15-february-2021-upcoming/17475.
> > >>
> > >> Any feedback is welcome.
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >> -Dalai-
> > >> 
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dback is welcome.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > -Dalai-
> > 
> > Dalai Felinto - da...@blender.org - www.blender.org
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> >
> > --
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 09:45:11 -0700
> > From: Ray Molenkamp 
> > To: bf-committers@blender.org
> > Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] No Monday or Tuesday meetings for the
> >   time being
> > Message-ID: <036450a5-c108-c588-0766-e60cc14d4...@lazydodo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > That seems somewhat strange and out of the blue (at least for me), the
> lack of reasoning for putting them on hold especially for the Tuesday ones
> you seem fond of is concerning, what am i missing here?
> >
> > --Ray
> >
> > On 2021-02-08 9:33 a.m., Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> The Monday (developers) and the Tuesday (modules) meetings are
> currently on
> >> hold. The Monday one has very little quorum and is rarely useful.
> >>
> >> The Tuesday talks (module meetings) are quite a joy actually and I will
> >> miss talking to the modules owners 1:1. But they have always being more
> >> like a  healthy check then a permanent solution. What we need instead
> is to
> >> make sure the modules are properly structured and can operate
> autonomously.
> >> But this is a separate topic.
> >>
> >> I have a new idea on how to do the weekly communication of the ongoing
> >> module and projects:
> >>
> >> * We keep the weekly online page in devtalk for the weekly notes [1].
> >> * Developers keep adding their weekly reports there.
> >> * Everyone adds relevant announcements there
> >> * [new] Modules and projects then add their notes there as well,
> >> asynchronously.
> >> * [new] At the end of Mondays I do a final pass in the page and post it
> >> here.
> >>
> >> [1] - https://devtalk.blender.org/t/15-february-2021-upcoming/17475.
> >>
> >> Any feedback is welcome.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> -Dalai-
> >> 
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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.03.8

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:

https://devtalk.blender.org/t/08-march-2021/17787

Announcements
=
* Blender 2.93 bcon2 next week.
* Module targets for 2.93 to be confirmed next week (current proposal is to
do that on Monday).

Modules and projects with notes this week

* Animation & Rigging
* Data, Assets, and IO
* VFX & Video
* Geometry Nodes

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[Bf-committers] 2.93 modules roadmap confirmation 15/Mar 11 CET

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Hi,

I would like to propose a meeting on blender.chat next Monday (15/Mar) at
11:00 CET for the modules to present their 2.93 targets.

The modules can prepare a list of the planned new features, and their
current state ahead of time. I created a placeholder to help with that.
During the meeting I will move this to hackmd so we can edit it at the same
time.

https://devtalk.blender.org/t/2021-03-15-blender-2-93-targets/17902

At the meeting we then go over them in order and confirm the targets and
their feasibility.

Let me know what you think of this idea,
-Dalai-

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[Bf-committers] Spreadsheet editor design

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Hi,

As part of the geometry nodes project there is a need for a spreadsheet
editor for a few use cases. However this is an editor that is not exclusive
to the nodes pipeline however and can relate to many other projects
(overrides, drivers, ...).

We did the design taking other use cases into consideration, but I would
like to invite the other modules to see if anything is missing or to plan
ways to expand it for the other modules https://developer.blender.org/T86279

Thank you,
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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.03.01

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Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:

https://devtalk.blender.org/t/01-march-2021/17735

Announcements:
=
* Welcome Fabian Schempp to the Nodes & Physics to continue working in
Geometry Nodes.
* Ray Molenkamp (LazyDodo) is now officially a module owner of the
Platforms, Builds, Tests & Devices module.
* Blender 2.92 released last week on February 25, 2021.
* All 2.92 tagged tasks were re-tagged to 2.93
* VSE module wants help testing scrubbing performance (D10529)
* Code quality day this Friday, Sergey Sharybin will write to the list with
more details later.
* Ongoing proposal about self-hosting external libraries in Blender's
servers (T86124)

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[Bf-committers] Blender 2.92 Released!

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Hi,
Blender 2.92 is officially released.

The release notes are here:
https://www.blender.org/download/releases/2-92/

And you can check a video with the features highlight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnXQMxr5xg8

Congratulations everyone for another great release!
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Re: [Bf-committers] Blender 2.93 Targets

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Hi Harley,
Thanks for your contributions and your direct involvement with the UI (User
Interface)  module.

In fact the UI module is still holding meetings, and those topics could
have been easily presented there. Julian Eisel is acting as coordinator,
and can facilitate things moving forward until there is someone in the role
of module owner.

* D8084, D10419 - are changes on existing behavior and thus should have
their design approved before it lands. Usually that means going through the
module owner(s) for approval. For the time being that means the module
needs to find a way organize and present them to Ton to get his approval. I
believe Julian is already working on ways to organize that.

Also keep in mind that this dynamic will work better if the module can
organize ahead of time a few tasks it wants to prioritize, and have them
presented. This helps also for community involvement.

Finally, a change on a feature like join/close areas should try to involve
its original developer. In that sense, even with module owner the D8084
patch would have to go through Ton.

* D10469, D10470, D10483 - a bugfix by definition is considered a valid
todo and part of the approved module agenda.

The only thing that may keep some of this (D10483) hanging is if it is
really low priority/corner case. Modules that have too many open issues are
encouraged to tag the low priority issues as known issues.

As well as more clearly communicate good pre-approved todos to be tackled
by the module team. This way the contributors and reviewers can make sure
that their time is well spent on the issues and projects that are the most
relevant.

Best regards,
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Op zo 21 feb. 2021 om 03:15 schreef Harley Acheson via Bf-committers <
bf-committers@blender.org>:

> Hello,
>
> I’m writing to this mailing list because I am in the middle of some work
> that I am really hoping to complete for release in 2.93. However, this is a
> bit complicated by the UI Module now being “headless”, Brecht’s move to
> Rendering, and that some of my changes are Windows-specific.
>
> This starts with D8084  - “UI: Join
> or
> Close Any Area” – which allows joining of almost any areas, adds the
> ability to “Close” any editor, and generally makes area maintenance
> functions a bit easier and more discoverable.
>
> Because the above makes some window management functions easier to find, I
> had started on some refactoring of window-creation routines, mostly to
> address some long-standing problems on Windows. That is mostly done and
> things are running fine on Windows now, with just a few stragglers:
>
> An omission in my Win32 changes results in owned windows (like Window / New
> Window) not being able to go “full screen”. That is fixed in D10470
> .
>
> One long-standing problem, positioning of child windows on Multiple
> windows, has been improved but could be better. D10469
>  makes it perfect.
>
> A long-standing, but fairly obscure, problem where some windows could draw
> text at the wrong size because of other windows with varying DPI is fixed
> in D10483 .
>
> Less important, and a bit more optional, is the last of the window-creation
> refactoring, in D10419 . This mostly
> just simplifies code but also makes it so that Window / New Window gives a
> less complex layout.
>
> It isn't a big problem if only some, or even none, of these are not
> approved in time for 2.93, but I just don't want to scramble at the last
> moment.
>
> Regards, Harley
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[Bf-committers] Blender 2.92 bcon5 - release prepartion

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Hello everyone,

We are officially in the final stages of release preparation for 2.92.
We're entering bcon5 for 2.92 now.

If anyone has any concerns, please let me know here and in blender.chat.

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Re: [Bf-committers] 2.92 release may be delayed

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Hi,

The final fix was committed yesterday. To be safe and guarantee a
successful release I would like to wait a full day still. That should be
enough for the most active testers to do a final green light.

So I would like to thank everyone for your patience. And hopefully we have
a great 2.92 tomorrow (25/February). I will send an official announcement
email once we enter bcon5 tomorrow.

Best regards,
Dalai

Op di 23 feb. 2021 om 12:21 schreef Dalai Felinto :

> Hi,
> There are still showstoppers preventing 2.92 release. The pending steps
> are:
>
> * Patches to be finalized + committed (D10507,  D10443).
> * Buildbot kicked to deliver a new public release candidate build.
> * The original reporters to confirm the issues are gone.
>
> Once this is out of the way we can make a final call on when to release
> 2.92. Usually a full day should happen between the fix lands and we call it
> release-ready.
>
> That means the release will likely happen on Thursday instead of
> Wednesday. Ultimately it will depend on when we get the final commit, how
> complex it is, and how confident the team is on the tests.
>
> -Dalai-
> 
> Dalai Felinto - da...@blender.org - www.blender.org
> Blender Development Coordinator
> Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
>


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[Bf-committers] 2.92 release may be delayed

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Hi,
There are still showstoppers preventing 2.92 release. The pending steps are:

* Patches to be finalized + committed (D10507,  D10443).
* Buildbot kicked to deliver a new public release candidate build.
* The original reporters to confirm the issues are gone.

Once this is out of the way we can make a final call on when to release
2.92. Usually a full day should happen between the fix lands and we call it
release-ready.

That means the release will likely happen on Thursday instead of Wednesday.
Ultimately it will depend on when we get the final commit, how complex it
is, and how confident the team is on the tests.

-Dalai-

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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.02.22

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Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:

https://devtalk.blender.org/t/22-february-2021/17596

Announcements
=
* Habib Gahbiche (zazizizou) was granted commit access to help the unittest
framework project. Welcome!
* Module teams for core Blender Development blog post [1]
  * New `Core` module.
  * New `Rendering` module with EEVEE and Cycles.
  * Better defined responsibilities for the module owners and members.
* Render Modules blog post [2]
  * There is now a single Rendering module.
  * Brecht focuses on Cycles again instead of overall Blender architecture.
  * Cycles module is looking for artists to join.
* Building with Python 3.10 is now supported, the official 2.93 release
will remain on Python 3.9.
* Python 3.10-alpha-5 has initial support

[1] -
https://code.blender.org/2021/02/module-teams-for-core-blender-development/
[2] - https://code.blender.org/2021/02/render-modules-update/

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[Bf-committers] Welcome to Blender 2.92 bcon4

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Hello everyone,

Blender 2.92 is now officially in the bcon4 stage. If things go as planned
we will have a smooth release next week.

blender-v2.92-release is now considered frozen to prepare for the release.
Only critical and carefully reviewed bug fixes allowed.

It is important to keep an eye in the tracker for any unexpected high
priority regression.

Thanks everyone,
-Dalai-

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[Bf-committers] Blender developer week notes - 2021.02.15

[Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers]

Hi all,

Here are the compiled notes for this week's development. For the complete
report with modules and projects updates, links and images read it on:

https://devtalk.blender.org/t/15-february-2021/17475

Announcements
=
* Google Summer of Code Ideas page is still mostly with old ideas, deadline
is February 19th (Friday).
* Bulidbots will be on maintenance 16 February, Tuesday.
* 2.92 bcon4 on 17 February.
  - We will go back to using release_candidate tags.
  - High frequency tablet input will be removed since it introduced many
problems for old drivers, but will come back in 2.93.
* 2.93 bcon2 on 17 February.
* Python 3.9 support has landed for 2.93 alpha.
  - This has ended Blender support for Windows 7 and 8.
  - The new minimum requirement is Windows 8.1.

Have a great week everyone,
-Dalai-

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Re: [Bf-committers] No Monday or Tuesday meetings for the time being

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Hi Nathan,

First let me say that this was poorly communicated on my end. I will try 
to clarify now.


The meetings were not effective as they used to be a few years ago. One 
of the main purposes of the meetings was to review and agree on 
development and design proposals. This was a good moment to engage in 
real-time with everyone involved in Blender development, especially 
across time-zones. The last meetings have seen very low attendance and 
interaction, making the presence of most attendees felt like a formality.


I see this as a reflection of much Blender has grown recently. Dealing 
with the growth of the Blender project while keeping it welcoming and 
accessible is an important challenge, and active efforts are being 
carried out in that regard.


While for time being the general meeting is put on hold, all the other 
activities carry on as usual. The chat channels, this mailing list, they 
are all open, public and more active than ever. All the contributors are 
encouraged to share their roadmaps. The modules are always open to new 
contributors.


What we expect next is two things: First, module teams are to organize 
themselves more independently. They can decide on how often and how to 
carry their public meetings. This is happening weekly already for the 
animation and other modules. I would like this to be implemented for 
other modules as well.


Another thing is, at some moment (I don't know when yet) I would like we 
to have a regular meeting with all the modules where we can schedule 
release targets, assign bigger projects and find out topics related to 
planning Blender as a general. For this, monthly is probably enough. But 
feedback in the format and frequency is welcome.


Besides, this week Ton will share a post about modules and roles that 
will help draw a picture of how all the modules related with the 
development of Blender.


And as always, informal communication keeps happening on 
#blender-coders. I hope this helps clarifying the situation,


-Dalai-

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On 10-02-2021 23:41, Nathan Vegdahl via Bf-committers wrote:

Hi Dalai,


I talked a bit with Ray over chat to try to clear some things out. The main
issue seemed to be the "how" this change happened/was decided/was
communicated, not so much the change itself. I will keep that in mind for
the next disrupted change.

It's great that you were able to talk to Ray directly.  However, I was also 
confused by the decision, as I suspect were many people who remained silent 
simply because Ray had already expressed their confusion and desire for 
clarification.

Would you mind sending another email to this thread with the rationale/goal of 
this change, so that it is visible to everyone following this thread?

(To clarify: I don't mean this as a challenge to the decision itself.  I trust 
you and the rest of the Blender team.  Just some transparency would be 
appreciated, is all.)

--Nathan

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Re: [Bf-committers] No Monday or Tuesday meetings for the time being

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Hi,

I talked a bit with Ray over chat to try to clear some things out. The main
issue seemed to be the "how" this change happened/was decided/was
communicated, not so much the change itself. I will keep that in mind for
the next  disrupted change.

As an addendum, there have been some interesting talk on #blender-coders
about how the meetings used to happen, how new developers felt welcome, ...
I'm glad that stopping the meeting (as we were doing) is already helping to
shade the light on the issues we had for a long time. Yet we were not
addressing since there was a half functional meeting.

Regards,
Dalai
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Re: [Bf-committers] No Monday or Tuesday meetings for the time being

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Hi Ray,

Which reasons do you see to keep the meeting(s)?

Thanks,
Dalai

Op ma 8 feb. 2021 om 17:46 schreef Ray Molenkamp via Bf-committers <
bf-committers@blender.org>:

> That seems somewhat strange and out of the blue (at least for me), the
> lack of reasoning for putting them on hold especially for the Tuesday ones
> you seem fond of is concerning, what am i missing here?
>
> --Ray
>
> On 2021-02-08 9:33 a.m., Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers wrote:
> > Hi,
> > The Monday (developers) and the Tuesday (modules) meetings are currently
> on
> > hold. The Monday one has very little quorum and is rarely useful.
> >
> > The Tuesday talks (module meetings) are quite a joy actually and I will
> > miss talking to the modules owners 1:1. But they have always being more
> > like a  healthy check then a permanent solution. What we need instead is
> to
> > make sure the modules are properly structured and can operate
> autonomously.
> > But this is a separate topic.
> >
> > I have a new idea on how to do the weekly communication of the ongoing
> > module and projects:
> >
> > * We keep the weekly online page in devtalk for the weekly notes [1].
> > * Developers keep adding their weekly reports there.
> > * Everyone adds relevant announcements there
> > * [new] Modules and projects then add their notes there as well,
> > asynchronously.
> > * [new] At the end of Mondays I do a final pass in the page and post it
> > here.
> >
> > [1] - https://devtalk.blender.org/t/15-february-2021-upcoming/17475.
> >
> > Any feedback is welcome.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > -Dalai-
> > 
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[Bf-committers] No Monday or Tuesday meetings for the time being

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Hi,
The Monday (developers) and the Tuesday (modules) meetings are currently on
hold. The Monday one has very little quorum and is rarely useful.

The Tuesday talks (module meetings) are quite a joy actually and I will
miss talking to the modules owners 1:1. But they have always being more
like a  healthy check then a permanent solution. What we need instead is to
make sure the modules are properly structured and can operate autonomously.
But this is a separate topic.

I have a new idea on how to do the weekly communication of the ongoing
module and projects:

* We keep the weekly online page in devtalk for the weekly notes [1].
* Developers keep adding their weekly reports there.
* Everyone adds relevant announcements there
* [new] Modules and projects then add their notes there as well,
asynchronously.
* [new] At the end of Mondays I do a final pass in the page and post it
here.

[1] - https://devtalk.blender.org/t/15-february-2021-upcoming/17475.

Any feedback is welcome.

Best regards,
-Dalai-

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