Re: [Bf-committers] Blender developers meeting notes - 2018-10-22

2018-10-24 Thread Brecht Van Lommel
Saving to an intermediate file format is not part of "modifying the look of an image in a creative manner" in my opinion. I can not find public discussion about using looks for other purposes. I agree Blender OCIO integration has limitations, but I'm not sure how integrating looks in a different w

Re: [Bf-committers] Blender developers meeting notes - 2018-10-22

2018-10-24 Thread Troy Sobotka
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018, 2:23 AM Brecht Van Lommel wrote: > We've had this discussion before, and I still did not see the explanation > from OCIO looks about looks being intended for this. The documentation > seems to say something else. > You don't see it, yet it has been discussed with the lead d

Re: [Bf-committers] Blender developers meeting notes - 2018-10-22

2018-10-24 Thread Brecht Van Lommel
We've had this discussion before, and I still did not see the explanation from OCIO looks about looks being intended for this. The documentation seems to say something else. But even besides that, it's just poor user interface design to use the Look setting for both artistic looks and saving to an

Re: [Bf-committers] Blender developers meeting notes - 2018-10-22

2018-10-23 Thread Troy Sobotka
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018, 10:41 AM Brecht Van Lommel wrote: > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 7:25 PM Troy Sobotka > wrote: > > Does this refer to saving a render in log color space for loading into > software that does not support OpenColorIO? I think it is using the Look > feature for something it was not

Re: [Bf-committers] Blender developers meeting notes - 2018-10-22

2018-10-23 Thread Brecht Van Lommel
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 7:25 PM Troy Sobotka wrote: > I'm fine with these sorts of changes in the bigger picture. > Ok, great. > As we have discussed before, I also do not think we should require a look > > to be specified for the Filmic view transform to give correct results, > the > > None l

Re: [Bf-committers] Blender developers meeting notes - 2018-10-22

2018-10-23 Thread Troy Sobotka
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018, 9:53 AM Brecht Van Lommel wrote: > > I don't personally mind removing the old RRT and Film transforms for > example, as Filmic provides a good replacement. But renaming e.g. "sRGB" to > "sRGB Native 2.2" or "Filmic" to "Filmic Log Encoding Base" is in my > opinion not an imp

Re: [Bf-committers] Blender developers meeting notes - 2018-10-22

2018-10-23 Thread Brecht Van Lommel
We do not break compatibility when we can reasonably avoid it. I don't personally mind removing the old RRT and Film transforms for example, as Filmic provides a good replacement. But renaming e.g. "sRGB" to "sRGB Native 2.2" or "Filmic" to "Filmic Log Encoding Base" is in my opinion not an improv

Re: [Bf-committers] Blender developers meeting notes - 2018-10-22

2018-10-23 Thread lukas.stock...@freenet.de
Maybe a compromise would be to kick out the old and broken stuff (e.g. the old Film looks) for 2.8 (since that is the step that actually breaks compatibility) and then have an updated config as a target for 2.81 (since that is the step that needs discussion/review/etc.)?-- Originalnachricht-

Re: [Bf-committers] Blender developers meeting notes - 2018-10-22

2018-10-23 Thread Bassam Kurdali
I think that would be a really good goal for 2.81 also. I'm personally not to sure how important backwards compatibility is, especially when fixing problems-in this case it's kind of a shame that it's not a good goal for 2.80 at this point, since there's more of an expectation that things will b

Re: [Bf-committers] Blender developers meeting notes - 2018-10-22

2018-10-23 Thread Ricardo Nunes
If I've understood correctly the first "public" release for 2.8 is supposed to be couple weeks after Bcon'18 so less than 3 weeks from now? I do agree, though, it'd be nice if color management could be cleaned up in 2.81. ti 23. lokak. 2018 klo 17.40 Troy Sobotka (troy.sobo...@gmail.com) kirjoitt

Re: [Bf-committers] Blender developers meeting notes - 2018-10-22

2018-10-23 Thread Troy Sobotka
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018, 4:07 AM Brecht Van Lommel wrote: > For a completely > different config, we would need to provide some level of backwards > compatibility and agree on the naming, I don't think there is time for > that. > I was under the impression 2.8 was a clean break? It strikes me as a

Re: [Bf-committers] Blender developers meeting notes - 2018-10-22

2018-10-23 Thread Brecht Van Lommel
The targets for the 2.80 release are quite fixed already, it's too late to make disruptive changes. If you want to submit a patch that adds P3 support to the existing config, or remove some legacy things, we could accept that. For a completely different config, we would need to provide some level

Re: [Bf-committers] Blender developers meeting notes - 2018-10-22

2018-10-22 Thread Troy Sobotka
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018, 10:28 AM Brecht Van Lommel wrote: > Here are the notes from today's developer meeting. Next meeting is Monday, > 29 October 18:00 CEST (16:00 UTC). > > 1) Blender 2.8 > > * Work continues towards the beta, an update on the current status will be > posted on the code blog and

[Bf-committers] Blender developers meeting notes - 2018-10-22

2018-10-22 Thread Brecht Van Lommel
Hi all, Here are the notes from today's developer meeting. Next meeting is Monday, 29 October 18:00 CEST (16:00 UTC). 1) Blender 2.8 * Work continues towards the beta, an update on the current status will be posted on the code blog and presented at Blender Conference. * There were many fixes to