First of all, the latest published version is 9.18.6, so why would you use a
version that's ~two months old?
Second, ISC does publish packages for EPEL, it's all listed here:
https://www.isc.org/download/ <https://www.isc.org/download/> (the COPR link),
so you can use that.
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, but it's ultimately your decision
It's little bit similar with libuv - you will be better running with latest
upstream release,
but you can get away with older versions too.
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whether it’s a typo in the network or in the bits - did the origin author meant
10.10.0.0-10.10.1.255 or 10.20.1.0-10.10.1.255 or something completely else
(like 10.10.1.0-10.10.2.255 based on wrong assumption?)
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> On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 10:33
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That’s wrong. 10.60.0.0/23 means 10.60.0.0 to 10.60.1.255 range.
> How do I configure this ACL in named.conf.local so that it takes the whole
> range?
Correctly specified range (without address/host bits) does takes the whole
range.
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> Regards
> Hamid Maadani
>
>
ly confident that any advantage from shared cache will be lost because
the extra latency caused by communication with the MongoDB (or any other no-sql
systems).
Perhaps, describing the use case first (why do you want to use MongoDB at all)
might have the benefit of not wasting time on your end.
O
What Emmanuel said…
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> On 4. 8. 2022, at 19:15, Emmanuel Fusté wrote:
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> Le 04/08/2022 à 17:48, Dmitri Pavlov a écrit
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Not really. Using ECDSA (or EdDSA) CSK is pretty lightweight even during
rollover.
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> On 3. 8. 2022, at 19:10, Peter wr
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We are refactoring the database for storing the resource records in 9.20 and
it's probably better spent time to work on the refactoring than look at this.
As usual, we would accept any well commented and well thought patches.
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I don’t see jemalloc anywhere in your setup scripts. Preferably use the latest
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> On 2. 8. 2022, at 0:29, Grant Taylor via bind-users
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> On 8/1/22 4:21 PM, Greg Ch
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01-Aug-2022 22:09:59.363
01-Aug-2022 22:09:59.363 found 8 CPUs, using 8 worker threads
01-Aug-2022 22:09:59.363 using 8 UDP listeners per interface
Swap:488612 USS:29592668 PSS:29593610 RSS:29596988
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> On 1. 8. 2022, at 18:40, John W. Blue via bind-users
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-> configure ->
> make -> make install. All default values.
I’ll try that. I have a custom script that tweaks some values (you can see that
in the log snippets I sent).
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ed to libxml2 version: 20910
01-Aug-2022 18:18:20.127 compiled with json-c version: 0.15
01-Aug-2022 18:18:20.127 linked to json-c version: 0.15
01-Aug-2022 18:18:20.127 compiled with zlib version: 1.2.11
01-Aug-2022 18:18:20.127 linked to zlib version: 1.2.11
$ smem -P name[d] -a
SWAP:1032108 USS:
med,
or is this allocated in the libraries?
> Should the memory reduction apply to our experiment?
The question doesn’t really make sense. We have not measured any increase in
our test scenarios,
which doesn’t mean you can’t find different scenarios with a memory increase.
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> On 1. 8. 2022, at 16:14, Doug Whitfield wrote:
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> as monitored from "top" RES value
Please read the whole thread on measuring the real consumed memory.
The '“top” RES value' has little or no value at all.
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There’s no generic tool. The one that was mentioned in the article was tailored
for that specific bug in jemalloc.
In any case, the article is only tangential to the topic here. It talks about a
issue in the jemalloc that was triggered by a specific code in named.
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> On 26. 7. 2022, at 1:02, Boian Bonev via bind-users
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> Hello,
>
> For the Devua
Sorry, but you are being too terse. What is DNS setup? Which website? What
*exactly* are you doing? Would you be able to help yourself with such little
information you gave us?
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buffet where you come and just take.
And don’t be mistaken - I was not helping you specifically, I was just
disputing your claim that BIND 9.18 takes more memory than 9.16 because that
claim didn’t match our own measurements.
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some memory as compared to the default system
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2. our expectations are to go even lower during the 9.19/9.20 development
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Could you for the purpose of the debugging share the DNS traffic between the
phone device and the resolver?
I think stepping back a little might help debug the issue. Perhaps people on
the list might notice something that might help.
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> On 8. 7. 2022, at 18:05, Roberto Carna wrote:
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> using the CLI in the BIND master
What does this mean and how exactly are you changing the zone? List all the
steps that you are doing when changing the zone contents.
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> On 22. 6. 2022, at 19:44, Fred Morris wrote:
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> Self explanatory? Maybe it's the nomenclature bu
And what did you find looking at the new data? What are the differences? And by how much?You should not expect other people doing the analysis for yourself.Ondrej--Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him)My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside your
Hi Marco,use this patch[1] on older Ubuntu or use Sphinx from pypi1. https://salsa.debian.org/dns-team/bind9/-/blob/debian/9.18/debian/patches/0001-Disable-treat-warnings-as-errors-in-sphinx-build.patchUbuntu 18.04 has too old Sphinx included.Ondrej--Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him)My working hours and
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we cannot really help you if you ignore everything that was said to you
regarding the memory measurements.
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the dependencies (which you are probably doing anyway), so what’s
the point of having this old “chassis” when you are welding new bits on top of
it? Perhaps running BIND 9 in a container would be easier?
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> On 15. 6. 2022, at 20:31, William D. Colburn wrote:
> Compiler: gcc -std=gnu99
>gcc (GCC) 4.4.7 20120313 (Red Hat
You need to provide little bit more detail about the environment - operating
system, compiler used, output of ./configure (including the options used).
There’s no such thing as too many *relevant* details…
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Sandro,
you did nothing wrong. No need to apologize from your side.
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> On 10. 6. 2022, at 17:45, Sandro wrote:
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Yeah, I concur that writing a small DLZ module or maybe even just **plugin** is
a way to go.
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> On 24. 5. 2022, at
Hi Klarstein,
Gathering the output of named statschannel should be good enough for initial
assessment (json please).
For 9.18, make sure the jemalloc is being used at runtime.
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Also please note that proper measurement of memory consumption is needed.
There’s some good (semi-accurate) stuff at SO and it needs to be correlated
with the statschannel output from named. Running “free” doesn’t measure memory
consumption by any program.
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Beyond that, if you need more help, you’ll need to go into more details.
> My conclusion is that Windows DNS is an abomination. And relying on an
> inherently faulty behavior leads straight to hell.
I cannot confirm or deny this conclusion...
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You did not provided any details, so we can’t really help you.
What is “RAM consumption” anyway? VSZ, RSS, numbers pulled from stats channel
from named?
What’s the hardware, what is the configuration, how was BIND 9 compiled (or
packaged)?
The more details, the better
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exactly right here:
https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/anonymous-help/
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> On 16. 5. 2022, at 19:06, frank pica
You don’t put DS into child zone, the DS record goes to parent zone,
so your question doesn’t make sense in this context.
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Also see https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8499 for canonical DNS
terminology document.
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> On 14. 5. 2022, at 1
loudly.
They are non-compliant and need to deploy the fix at their side.
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> On 13. 5. 2022, at 15:16, Rainer Duffn
160-c.gandi.net.) (UDP)
;; WHEN: Fri May 13 15:57:49 CEST 2022
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 87
So, there’s nothing like “cache polution”, named correctly caches the records
returned by the authoritative servers.
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s) were not responsive to queries
over UDP. (157.83.102.245, 157.83.102.246, 157.83.126.245, 157.83.126.246)
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> On 13. 5.
as EDNS
Can **you** tell if the problem why the server didn’t respond was IPv6 and not
EDNS over IPv6?
It’s impossible to tell whether the IPv4 and IPv6 addresses are handled on the
same machine
not to mention same software.
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articular issue. They were crippling the TTL to 0 in the wrong
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rsonally go with VPN as a first option.
Other than that this is classical example of GIGO (garbage in, garbage out).
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The main tuning is that people should not write their own DNS server
if they can’t implement it properly, but hey that’s what we have on the
Internet now...
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ls whatsoever.
Modern systems are usually managed by using software from packages. However,
the broad topic of system administration is out of topic for this list.
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toring software.
Also monitoring DNS traffic on the mirror doesn’t tell you anything **how** the
DNS server sees the queries, so dnstap is going to be better solution for most
deployments.
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I am actually thinking the similar thing that the COPR is being filtered from
where you are. Try gnutls-cli to connect to the site whether it gives you the
correct cert and everything.
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Pull the memory stats from the statschannel (json or xml). Also make sure you
run 9.18 with jemalloc (you can use jemalloc with 9.16, but it needs to be
linked explicitly with LDFLAGS or pre-loaded).
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From top of my head - try setting the max-cache-size to infinite. The internal
views might still pre-allocate some stuff based on available memory.
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That’s much better - you should search for dnstap, initial pointer might be:
https://kb.isc.org/docs/aa-01342
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> I asked this last week, but I didn't an answer.
Probably because I still don’t know what you mean. You need to better
articulate your problem and your question.
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I think you also might want to mask the service:
https://fedoramagazine.org/systemd-masking-units/
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> On 22. 4. 2022, at 17:20, Ra
> bind 9.16.13
This. You are running outdated unsupported version of BIND 9. You need to
upgrade to latest 9.16 version at least.
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We can’t really help you if you withhold information. You need to learn to
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r defaults for dig via ${HOME}/.digrc. This file
is read and any options in it are applied before the command line arguments.
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Read the thread, this has been already answered on the list.
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> On 2. 4. 2022, at 19:48, Dzmitry Shykuts wrote:
>
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SERVFAIL TTL to expire.
The maximum value is ``30`` seconds; any higher value is
silently reduced. The default is ``1`` second.
And see if that helps.
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ssues?scope=all&state=closed&search=Macports
For all of these, we either prepared and/or merged a fix or provided a
workaround (for the second issue on the list, you need to run autoreconf -if).
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emD. And we are not planning to depend on
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n the Supported Platforms:
https://bind9.readthedocs.io/en/v9_18_1/requirements.html#supported-platforms
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Making general statements like
this is neither helpful
to those “maintainers” (they can speak for themselves, do they) nor the the
upstream developers.
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This is already being tracked as
https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/issues/3122
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> On 21. 3. 2022, at 17
You don’t have to have sphinx-build installed for manpages to be generated.
There’s nothing complicated in the build system. All is pretty standard stuff.
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Is static-stub something you are looking for?
Reference documentation:
https://bind9.readthedocs.io/en/v9_18_0/reference.html?highlight=static-stub#zone-types
And in human terms:
https://jpmens.net/2011/01/25/binds-new-static-stub-zone-type/
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The server isn’t same. All the libraries that you are using to compile BIND 9
needs to be at same or higher version, which isn’t the case here.
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16 with the upstream
patch releases.
The other option provided by ISC is to run BIND 9 inside a docker container,
so you don’t have to worry about the PPA messing with the base system, but
the docker container is exactly “Ubuntu 20.04 + ISC PPA”.
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eshark) to look what happens on the wire when the
failure occurs would help.
You can also run named with extra debugging level to provide more insight.
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(e.g. this was fixed in 2014 in the C standard)
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> On 22. 2. 2022, at 5:26, Larry Stone wr
if you start using real domain and describing what you need
to achieve instead of how you want to do that would be a good start. Step back
and describe why are you doing things like this.
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rs and
weird quirks of the Windows SDK.
Also we are not actively rejecting the idea of having Windows port - and I
think I pretty
much explained the conditions the ISC would accept the Windows port in the
previous
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- debugging on Windows is extremely painful and
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> On 17. 2. 2022, at 15:08, Ja
s almost EOL (June 2022), so you should upgrade to
bullseye in any case.
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I guess you can possibly workaround this by disabling jemalloc from named build
and hope that the static shims for jemalloc calls will trump the preloaded
functions from libfaketime.
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would be a bare minimum here.
4. Create an issue (I thought there’s already one as integrating
Deckard has been on our TODO list for couple of years now),
and track all the ideas and progress there.
GL #2088: https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/issues/2088
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do both, or at least the firewall.
But you absolutely must remove the hidden primary from the list of NS both in
the parent and child zones. That’s the most important thing to do. Start with
that, the rest is just additional layers.
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Thanks Fred, those are all good advices for the DNS over TCP implementors.
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> On 11. 2. 2022, at 18:32, Fred Morris wr
rants. The
experience shows that sticking to the technical questions leads to more
pleasant experience on the mailing list. Thanks.
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nt DNS client and hence we plan to directly make
the option to do nothing instead of graceful removal which would force us
to support the option for the next 6 years.
The option will be marked obsolete, so named-checkconf will issue a warning,
and removed in BIND 9.21+ development release.
1.
porting bugs. You omitted quite serious information about
the
build until the very last moment when you reported you found the issue.
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Please don’t, use gitlab. The message is just autoconf quirk.
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> On 1. 2. 2022, at 15:28, Josef Moellers wrote:
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> PS The
ke: Nothing to be done for 'test’.
I will repeat that again - you should understand what you are doing and why you
are doing that - that includes
all your local patches, changes to the default options and any other
modifications to the build system.
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ng and why it is failing?
Both ‘make test’ and ‘make check’ works as expected.
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gt;> Jan 24 12:41:25 dns named[6281]: creating IPv4 interface ixl1.15 failed;
>> interface ignored
>>
>> and the named process no longer listens on TCP port 853.
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>> Also tried this on 9.17.22, and the same problem occurs.
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> Now also tried on 9.18.0,
DNSSEC Signing Guide:
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> On 31. 1. 2022, at 9:39, Josef Moellers wrote:
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> I was wo
Hi Anand,
what is your open files limit before starting the server?
(ulimit -n)
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> On 28. 1. 2022, at 14:33, An
John,
welcome to the list of people being moderated.
Trolling and harassing other users on the lists is not welcomed here.
Please pick your fights elsewhere.
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FTR Jason has been warned before to stop sending this nonsense about Hidden
Google Internet and I’ve put them on the moderation list for now.
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Again - it’s your configured forwarders at fault. There’s no Google Hidden
Internet.
Just stop using the forwarders, named is capable to resolve the names on its
own.
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That’s a question that you need to ask people running these nameservers:
159.134.0.11; 159.134.0.12;
The domain works fine from here and those servers serve only your ISP it seems.
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Does the jail have enough entropy? That would be my first guess…
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> On 13. 12. 2021, at 7:18, Nikita Druba wrote:
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> Wh
FTR RRL will not help on this case. There’s no difference between response with
TC and response with REFUSED.
It would make a difference only if there was NOERROR response with data.
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Not responding would make the client susceptible to spoofing,
and named have no way of deciding whether the other side
is legitimate or not. The out-of-configure-zone question could
come from misconfiguration somewhere and not be malicious
at all.
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IP addresses doesn’t need access
to your DNS? If yes, then go ahead.
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> On 15. 12. 2021, at 12:51, Danilo Godec via bind-users
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> Hello,
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>
> I'm noticing some unusual activity where 48 external IPs generated over
&g
I like bind-next too - shame we didn’t think of it when we created the
repositories.
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> On 1. 12. 2021, at 17:56, Petr Menšík wrote:
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> Well, why not, I like that. Only slight disadvantage to bind9-dev is it
> is never called similar w
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