Re: Hostname Naming Compliance

2009-03-08 Thread Danny Mayer
Kevin Darcy wrote: > But, as far as I can tell, there's no *practical* reason to disallow > underscores, other than the fact that it may trip the standards-checking > code of some _other_ piece of software. So, piece of software A > disallows underscores because it's worried about causing a proble

Re: Hostname Naming Compliance

2009-03-06 Thread Kevin Darcy
Danny Mayer wrote: Kevin Darcy wrote: But, as far as I can tell, there's no *practical* reason to disallow underscores, other than the fact that it may trip the standards-checking code of some _other_ piece of software. So, piece of software A disallows underscores because it's worried about

Re: Hostname Naming Compliance

2009-03-01 Thread Michael Milligan
Kevin Darcy wrote: > Mark Andrews wrote: >> W_h_e_r_e_ _i_s_ _t__h_e_ >> _h_o_s_t_._n_a_m_e__ _i_n_ >> _t_h_i___s_ ___l_i_n__e. >> > The ironic thing is, I don't think that *aesthetically* I favor > underscores any more than Mark does. > > But, to me

Re: Hostname Naming Compliance

2009-02-27 Thread Kevin Darcy
Mark Andrews wrote: In message <49a755bf.9030...@chrysler.com>, Kevin Darcy writes: Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: Mark Andrews wrote: When does it stop? What will be the next character you "just have to have"? At the moment you have 1 inter label

Re: Hostname Naming Compliance

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Andrews
Mark Andrews writes: > > In message <49a755bf.9030...@chrysler.com>, Kevin Darcy writes: > > Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > >> Mark Andrews wrote: > > >> > > >>> When does it stop? What will be the next character you > > >>> "just have to have"? At the moment you have 1

Re: Hostname Naming Compliance

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <49a755bf.9030...@chrysler.com>, Kevin Darcy writes: > Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > >> Mark Andrews wrote: > >> > >>> When does it stop? What will be the next character you > >>> "just have to have"? At the moment you have 1 inter label > >>> seperator and 1 intra label

Re: Hostname Naming Compliance

2009-02-26 Thread Kevin Darcy
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: Mark Andrews wrote: When does it stop? What will be the next character you "just have to have"? At the moment you have 1 inter label seperator and 1 intra label seperator. That should be enough for anyone. On 25.02.09

Re: Hostname Naming Compliance

2009-02-26 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> Mark Andrews wrote: > > When does it stop? What will be the next character you > > "just have to have"? At the moment you have 1 inter label > > seperator and 1 intra label seperator. That should be > > enough for anyone. On 25.02.09 08:49, Peter Laws wrote: > Like 640k of mem

Re: Hostname Naming Compliance

2009-02-25 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <49a55a7f.8010...@ou.edu>, Peter Laws writes: > Mark Andrews wrote: > > When does it stop? What will be the next character you > > "just have to have"? At the moment you have 1 inter label > > seperator and 1 intra label seperator. That should be > > enough for anyone

Re: Hostname Naming Compliance

2009-02-25 Thread Peter Laws
Mark Andrews wrote: When does it stop? What will be the next character you "just have to have"? At the moment you have 1 inter label seperator and 1 intra label seperator. That should be enough for anyone. Like 640k of memory. Unicode is coming (as fast as I

Re: Hostname Naming Compliance

2009-02-25 Thread Peter Laws
Jeff Lightner wrote: And of course you can legitimately say it is a "Standard" even if it isn't enforced by the software. Your argument would be that people implementing new servers or attempting to access the systems wouldn't be able to do so because they wouldn't have added the "exception to

Re: Hostname Naming Compliance

2009-02-24 Thread Kevin Darcy
Eric C. Davis wrote: Are there plans for Bind to enforce hostname compliance according to RFC's or is this going to be left up to each DNS operator? I'm going to take an even more radical "con" position than most of the people in this thread. An A record maps a DNS name into a 32-bit value.

Re: Hostname Naming Compliance

2009-02-24 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <49a3a09a.2000...@blue-labs.org>, David Ford writes: > Here's a question. Are we incapable of dealing with things like > underscores in hostnames? Is there any significant harm in adapting? When does it stop? What will be the next character you "just have to have"?

Re: Hostname Naming Compliance

2009-02-24 Thread John Wobus
It's an excellent idea to make your systems handle such hostnames without problems (e.g. not crashing) when they run across such a name on the Internet. It's unfriendly to propagate such hostnames when doing so impedes others' ability to do something. It's against your own interests to propagate

Re: Hostname Naming Compliance

2009-02-23 Thread David Ford
Here's a question. Are we incapable of dealing with things like underscores in hostnames? Is there any significant harm in adapting? -david ___ bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users

Re: Hostname Naming Compliance

2009-02-23 Thread Michael Milligan
Ah yes, the perennial rathole... Eric C. Davis wrote: > I know the option to use this compliance checker is present, but I'm > curious to know if there are plans to make it mandatory to comply. We RFC 1123 has always been mandatory for Internet connected hosts. Valid characters for a hostname a

Re: Hostname Naming Compliance

2009-02-23 Thread Danny Thomas
Eric C. Davis wrote: > Are there plans for Bind to enforce hostname compliance according > to RFC's or is this going to be left up to each DNS operator? the question of benefit always arises when considering the application of RFCs. It's probably better not enforcing things just for the sake of c

RE: Hostname Naming Compliance

2009-02-23 Thread Jeff Lightner
ception to Standard" that your PHBs are requiring. -Original Message- From: bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Chris Thompson Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 2:31 PM To: Bind Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Hostname Naming Complian

Re: Hostname Naming Compliance

2009-02-23 Thread Gregory Hicks
> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:07:31 + > From: Evan Hunt > To: "Eric C. Davis" > Subject: Re: Hostname Naming Compliance > Cc: "bind-users@lists.isc.org" > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 01:54:46PM -0500, Eric C. Davis wrote: > > I know the option

Re: Hostname Naming Compliance

2009-02-23 Thread Chris Thompson
On Feb 23 2009, Evan Hunt wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 01:54:46PM -0500, Eric C. Davis wrote: I know the option to use this compliance checker is present, but I'm curious to know if there are plans to make it mandatory to comply. We aren't using this feature now, but I would like to. My pr

Re: Hostname Naming Compliance

2009-02-23 Thread Evan Hunt
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 01:54:46PM -0500, Eric C. Davis wrote: > I know the option to use this compliance checker is present, but I'm > curious to know if there are plans to make it mandatory to comply. We > aren't using this feature now, but I would like to. My problem is > politicking my way

Re: Hostname Naming Compliance

2009-02-23 Thread Eric C. Davis
I know the option to use this compliance checker is present, but I'm curious to know if there are plans to make it mandatory to comply. We aren't using this feature now, but I would like to. My problem is politicking my way around the issue of breaking something that works. If Bind were to s

Re: Hostname Naming Compliance

2009-02-23 Thread Chris Buxton
On Feb 23, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Eric C. Davis wrote: Are there plans for Bind to enforce hostname compliance according to RFC's or is this going to be left up to each DNS operator? It's present in BIND 9.3 and later. All characters except a-z, A-Z, 0-9, and "-" itself are forbidden to appear