no. of Views and Zones

2010-10-31 Thread Alans

Hello Everyone,

Have 2 questions, is there any limitation (beside hardware) on number of 
views? I mean creating a view/customer?

And is there any limitation for number of zones/view?


Thanks in advance.
Alans
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Re: no. of Views and Zones

2010-10-31 Thread J. Thomsen
Alans, 

Have 2 questions, is there any limitation (beside hardware) on number of 
views? I mean creating a view/customer?
And is there any limitation for number of zones/view?

You cannot use views to group zones for customers.

I have recently on this list proposed an extension to the view concept to be 
able to do
this, but nobody has commented on this proposal.

Views are primarily used for cases, when IP-adresses are different e.g. 
internal addresses
versus external addresses depending on the client IP address looking up the 
zone data.


- Jørgen Thomsen

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Re: no. of Views and Zones

2010-10-31 Thread Bèrto ëd Sèra
Pardon a n00b question, but wouldn't that be the case if you used a number
of different IPV6 addresses?

Bèrto

On 31 October 2010 14:04, J. Thomsen l...@jth.net wrote:

 Alans,
 
 Have 2 questions, is there any limitation (beside hardware) on number of
 views? I mean creating a view/customer?
 And is there any limitation for number of zones/view?

 You cannot use views to group zones for customers.

 I have recently on this list proposed an extension to the view concept to
 be able to do
 this, but nobody has commented on this proposal.

 Views are primarily used for cases, when IP-adresses are different e.g.
 internal addresses
 versus external addresses depending on the client IP address looking up the
 zone data.


 - Jørgen Thomsen

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Re: no. of Views and Zones

2010-10-31 Thread Alan Clegg
On 10/31/2010 4:48 AM, Alans wrote:

 Have 2 questions, is there any limitation (beside hardware) on number of
 views? I mean creating a view/customer?
 And is there any limitation for number of zones/view?

Instead of saying how many views can I get, I think you would be much
better off saying why am I trying to implement more views.

Can you perhaps explain your need to fragment the DNS namespace (which
was NOT supposed to be done)?

AlanC



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Re: no. of Views and Zones

2010-10-31 Thread J. Thomsen
Alan Clegg, 


Can you perhaps explain your need to fragment the DNS namespace (which
was NOT supposed to be done)?

I cannot speak for Alans, but only for our own needs.

We run DNSes for a number of customers i.e. everybody in the whole world should 
see the
same zone data. No different views of the same zones here.

Currently this is implemented by external tools maintaining include files.

Recently an rndc addzone/delzone feature has been introduced. It is maintaining 
views and
include files and making instant updates.

What I am proposing is a simple generalization of this concept, so that a view 
can be used
as a group thus eliminating the need for external tools.

Conceptually this is very simple. Just make BIND search for a zone in all views 
matching
the client until it finds it instead of only searching the first matching view 
as it does
today.

It is even backward compatible for current correct configuration of views.

mvh
Jørgen
 
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Re: no. of Views and Zones

2010-10-31 Thread Alans

On 10/31/2010 05:48 PM, Alan Clegg wrote:

On 10/31/2010 4:48 AM, Alans wrote:
Instead of saying how many views can I get, I think you would be much
better off saying why am I trying to implement more views.

I'm trying to implement something similar to OpenDNS in a smaller scale.
i.e. letting each customer to create their own blacklist domains.

So I was thinking if I can create a view for each customer and let them 
edit their zones in a web interface and here my concern is the number of 
views i can create and number of zones/view.


I'd like to hear if there are other ways to do this.

P.S. I read the specs for DNS RPZ but I can't find enough docs about 
it to try it.



Can you perhaps explain your need to fragment the DNS namespace (which
was NOT supposed to be done)?

AlanC

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Unknown option 'managed-keys' - why?

2010-10-31 Thread alexander

Hi.

Excuse my English.

And sorry if it's an stupid question.

I'm trying to configure DNSSEC in my server.

And after trying using Fedora 7 and CentOS 5, I'm still getting the error
message unknown option 'managed-keys'.

I've checked in 'man named.conf' and I couldn't found the option.

But despite that I think I'm doing something really stupid, but I can't
find what.

And, yes, I put that option into named.conf file, just below options
block:

options {
# some options here
};

managed-keys {
# my key
};

...

[]s
Alexander
Brazil
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Re: Unknown option 'managed-keys' - why?

2010-10-31 Thread Kevin Oberman
 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 19:21:55 -0200
 From: alexan...@nautae.eti.br
 Sender: bind-users-bounces+oberman=es@lists.isc.org
 
 
 Hi.
 
 Excuse my English.
 
 And sorry if it's an stupid question.
 
 I'm trying to configure DNSSEC in my server.
 
 And after trying using Fedora 7 and CentOS 5, I'm still getting the error
 message unknown option 'managed-keys'.
 
 I've checked in 'man named.conf' and I couldn't found the option.
 
 But despite that I think I'm doing something really stupid, but I can't
 find what.
 
 And, yes, I put that option into named.conf file, just below options
 block:
 
 options {
 # some options here
 };
 
 managed-keys {
 # my key
 };
 
 ...
 
 []s

What version of BIND in included in your Fedora? Last I looked, the
version was ancient. 9.3 or something similar.

You really need to update to 9.7.2-P2 as 9.7 is the first (and only) version
to support managed-keys. 9.3 does not really support dnssec at all, if
that is what you have. Useful DNSSEC shoed up somewhere in 9.6 and rally
became usable in 9.7.
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