{plain} BIND 10, and "DNS and BIND" by Liu & Albitz

2013-02-26 Thread James Brown
Has there been any word on when (if?) a new edition of "DNS and BIND" will be available covering BIND 10? James. ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.

Re: name caching and forwarding

2013-02-26 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <512d0222.5020...@chrysler.com>, Kevin Darcy writes: > If all you want to do is run a private namespace, I wouldn't be fiddling > around with forwarding at all. Set up your own root zone, propagate a > private set of hints data, and be happy. I know that you once thrived in > such a

Re: disabling lame server logging

2013-02-26 Thread Bryan Harris
Hi Robert, On Feb 26, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > On 02/26/2013 01:57 PM, Doug Barton wrote: >> On 02/26/2013 10:38 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> I would like a scalpel for lame logging, but probably would not discover >>> any actionable data. >> >> There is a logging categ

Re: disabling lame server logging

2013-02-26 Thread Sten Carlsen
On 26/02/13 19:09, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > On 02/26/2013 12:58 PM, Sten Carlsen wrote: >> >> On 26/02/13 18:06, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> >>> On 02/26/2013 11:43 AM, Sten Carlsen wrote: On 26/02/13 15:50, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > I would expect that a namecaching server

Re: disabling lame server logging

2013-02-26 Thread WBrown
Robert wrote on 02/26/2013 02:23:44 PM: > > There is a logging category for lame-servers. It's in the ARM. > > So far 2 reads and I am not getting out of it what to do for selective > logging based on return codes. I am going to let it stay for now as I > move on to other parts of this project

Re: disabling lame server logging

2013-02-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/26/2013 01:57 PM, Doug Barton wrote: On 02/26/2013 10:38 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I would like a scalpel for lame logging, but probably would not discover any actionable data. There is a logging category for lame-servers. It's in the ARM. So far 2 reads and I am not getting out of

Re: name caching and forwarding

2013-02-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz
hey, Kevin, hope you are hanging well back at the old stomping ground! On 02/26/2013 01:42 PM, Kevin Darcy wrote: On 2/26/2013 11:39 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 02/26/2013 11:14 AM, Phil Mayers wrote: On 26/02/13 16:07, Robert Moskowitz wrote: And I am having challenges with the forward

Re: disabling lame server logging

2013-02-26 Thread Doug Barton
On 02/26/2013 10:38 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I would like a scalpel for lame logging, but probably would not discover any actionable data. There is a logging category for lame-servers. It's in the ARM. Doug ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/

Re: name caching and forwarding

2013-02-26 Thread Kevin Darcy
On 2/26/2013 11:39 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 02/26/2013 11:14 AM, Phil Mayers wrote: On 26/02/13 16:07, Robert Moskowitz wrote: And I am having challenges with the forward option. It reads that 'forward only' will always ask the forwarder about the query and seems to defeat caching? An

Re: disabling lame server logging

2013-02-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/26/2013 01:19 PM, Doug Barton wrote: You want to set up your resolver on your mail server to forward to your main resolver, using the forward only option. This will allow your mail server resolver to benefit from the cache already populated on your main resolver, while still maintaining

Re: Stop of logging of No Valid Signature Found

2013-02-26 Thread Chris Buxton
On Feb 25, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > So should I change this to an include and put dnssec-validation back to yes? No. "dnssec-validation auto;" is correct for 90% of cases. An Internet validating resolver should almost certainly use this. Mark is simply being precise and comple

Re: disabling lame server logging

2013-02-26 Thread Doug Barton
You want to set up your resolver on your mail server to forward to your main resolver, using the forward only option. This will allow your mail server resolver to benefit from the cache already populated on your main resolver, while still maintaining the value of caching the answers itself loca

Re: disabling lame server logging

2013-02-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/26/2013 12:58 PM, Sten Carlsen wrote: On 26/02/13 18:06, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 02/26/2013 11:43 AM, Sten Carlsen wrote: On 26/02/13 15:50, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I would expect that a namecaching server on the mailserver would reduce traffic and resources all the way around.

Re: disabling lame server logging

2013-02-26 Thread Sten Carlsen
On 26/02/13 18:06, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > On 02/26/2013 11:43 AM, Sten Carlsen wrote: >> >> On 26/02/13 15:50, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> >>> I would expect that a namecaching server on the mailserver would >>> reduce traffic and resources all the way around. >>> >>> I don't need my mailserv

Re: disabling lame server logging

2013-02-26 Thread Vernon Schryver
> From: Daniel McDonald > That's not to say that there is currently any cache-poisoning vulnerability > that someone might exploit, or that any current malware makes use of this > two-phase approach to exploit desktops. But why take the risk when setting > up bind as a recursive server pointing

Re: disabling lame server logging

2013-02-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/26/2013 11:43 AM, Sten Carlsen wrote: On 26/02/13 15:50, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I would expect that a namecaching server on the mailserver would reduce traffic and resources all the way around. I don't need my mailserver to constantly be asking my name server about, say, zen.spamha

Re: disabling lame server logging

2013-02-26 Thread Daniel McDonald
On 2/26/13 10:43 AM, "Sten Carlsen" wrote: > > > On 26/02/13 15:50, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > >> >> I would expect that a namecaching server on the mailserver would reduce >> traffic and resources all the way around. >> >> I don't need my mailserver to constantly be asking my n

Re: disabling lame server logging

2013-02-26 Thread Sten Carlsen
On 26/02/13 15:50, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > I would expect that a namecaching server on the mailserver would > reduce traffic and resources all the way around. > > I don't need my mailserver to constantly be asking my name server > about, say, zen.spamhaus.org. This is one reason my mailserver

Re: name caching and forwarding

2013-02-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/26/2013 11:14 AM, Phil Mayers wrote: On 26/02/13 16:07, Robert Moskowitz wrote: And I am having challenges with the forward option. It reads that 'forward only' will always ask the forwarder about the query and seems to defeat caching? And 'forward first' only looks in cache after a fo

Re: name caching and forwarding

2013-02-26 Thread Phil Mayers
On 26/02/13 16:07, Robert Moskowitz wrote: And I am having challenges with the forward option. It reads that 'forward only' will always ask the forwarder about the query and seems to defeat caching? And 'forward first' only looks in cache after a forward fails? This does not sound right and I

name caching and forwarding

2013-02-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz
So now I am working on adding a name caching service to my mailserver. And I am reading up on namecaching. For RHEL/Centos, there is not much to doing this as the default install of bind SEEMS to be a name caching server. But I want it to NOT go out on the net for queries, but to direct all

Re: disabling lame server logging

2013-02-26 Thread Phil Mayers
On 26/02/13 14:50, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Yes. Note that you can enable this by default in the "options" statement. This is all pretty well documented and easy to find in the ARM... This is traffic I only want occationally! I am trying to reduce the logging size to find new problems. Fair

Re: disabling lame server logging

2013-02-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/26/2013 09:37 AM, Phil Mayers wrote: On 26/02/13 14:31, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 02/26/2013 09:25 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 02/26/2013 09:13 AM, Phil Mayers wrote: On 26/02/13 13:54, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I would be interested in which client is requesting these lookups tha

Re: disabling lame server logging

2013-02-26 Thread Phil Mayers
On 26/02/13 14:31, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 02/26/2013 09:25 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 02/26/2013 09:13 AM, Phil Mayers wrote: On 26/02/13 13:54, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I would be interested in which client is requesting these lookups that end up going to lame servers. I am assumin

Re: disabling lame server logging

2013-02-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/26/2013 09:25 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 02/26/2013 09:13 AM, Phil Mayers wrote: On 26/02/13 13:54, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I would be interested in which client is requesting these lookups that end up going to lame servers. I am assuming the IP address in the log is the address o

Re: disabling lame server logging

2013-02-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/26/2013 09:13 AM, Phil Mayers wrote: On 26/02/13 13:54, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I would be interested in which client is requesting these lookups that end up going to lame servers. I am assuming the IP address in the log is the address of the lame server, not the requesting client. Lo

Re: disabling lame server logging

2013-02-26 Thread Phil Mayers
On 26/02/13 13:54, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I would be interested in which client is requesting these lookups that end up going to lame servers. I am assuming the IP address in the log is the address of the lame server, not the requesting client. Look at the query logs? ___

Re: disabling lame server logging

2013-02-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/26/2013 08:38 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Continuing to 'clean up' my new server by reviewing logged messages. Researching a common one: Feb 26 07:30:29 onlo named[19336]: error (unexpected RCODE SERVFAIL) resolving 'foo.com/MX/IN': 1.2.3.4#53 I get the drift that my server has been d

disabling lame server logging

2013-02-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Continuing to 'clean up' my new server by reviewing logged messages. Researching a common one: Feb 26 07:30:29 onlo named[19336]: error (unexpected RCODE SERVFAIL) resolving 'foo.com/MX/IN': 1.2.3.4#53 I get the drift that my server has been directed to a 'lame server' and logs that fact. S