spf ent txt records.

2013-03-13 Thread hugo hugoo
Dear all,
 
I received the following question and I am not able to aswer as spf records are 
still mysterious to me.
We are using BIND 9.7.
 
Thanks in advance for your answers,
 
Hugo,
 
 
 
Does our DNS-server support SPF-type records? Or do we put SPF-info in a 
TXT-record?
 
Ref. : 
Early implementations used TXT records for implementation before the new record 
type was commonly available in DNS software. Use of TXT records for SPF was 
intended as a transitional mechanism. However, according to the current RFC, 
RFC 4408, section 3.1.1, An SPF-compliant domain name SHOULD have SPF records 
of both RR types. A compliant domain name MUST have a record of at least one 
type, and as such, TXT record use is not deprecated.[2]
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Re: spf ent txt records.

2013-03-13 Thread Leonardo Santagostini
Hello Hugo,

You can try looking at your zone files for SPF records and/or TXT
containing spf stuff.

You con implement SPF records as you wish.

Maybe you can take a look at: http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch9/spf.html

Saludos / Regards
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2013/3/13 hugo hugoo hugo...@hotmail.com

 Dear all,



 I received the following question and I am not able to aswer as spf
 records are still mysterious to me.

 We are using BIND 9.7.



 Thanks in advance for your answers,



 Hugo,







 Does our DNS-server support SPF-type records? Or do we put SPF-info in a
 TXT-record?**

 ** **

 *Ref. :
 *Early implementations used TXT 
 recordshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TXT_recordfor implementation before the 
 new record type was commonly available in DNS
 software. Use of TXT records for SPF was intended as a transitional
 mechanism. However, according to the current RFC, RFC 
 4408http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4408,
 section 3.1.1, An SPF-compliant domain name SHOULD have SPF records of
 both RR types. A compliant domain name MUST have a record of at least one
 type, and as such, TXT record use is not 
 deprecated.[2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sender_Policy_Framework#cite_note-2
 

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Re: spf ent txt records.

2013-03-13 Thread Jan-Piet Mens
 Does our DNS-server support SPF-type records? Or do we put SPF-info in a 
 TXT-record?

BIND has supported SPF records since 9.4 I think, so yes. Their
functionality is identical (i.e. define both if you want/need both)

name  ttl  class   TXT text
name  ttl  class   SPF text

Regards,

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Re: spf ent txt records.

2013-03-13 Thread Sten Carlsen
I used both types with Bind 9.2.1, so both types should work for you.
As I recall the only difference was txt - spf as RR type.


hugo hugoo hugo...@hotmail.com wrote:

Dear all,
 
I received the following question and I am not able to aswer as spf
records are still mysterious to me.
We are using BIND 9.7.
 
Thanks in advance for your answers,
 
Hugo,
 
 
 
Does our DNS-server support SPF-type records? Or do we put SPF-info in
a TXT-record?
 
Ref. : 
Early implementations used TXT records for implementation before the
new record type was commonly available in DNS software. Use of TXT
records for SPF was intended as a transitional mechanism. However,
according to the current RFC, RFC 4408, section 3.1.1, An
SPF-compliant domain name SHOULD have SPF records of both RR types. A
compliant domain name MUST have a record of at least one type, and as
such, TXT record use is not deprecated.[2]
 



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Re: spf ent txt records.

2013-03-13 Thread G.W. Haywood

Hi there,

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013, hugo hugoo wrote:


I received the following question and I am not able to aswer as spf
records are still mysterious to me.  We are using BIND 9.7.


Does our DNS-server support SPF-type records? Or do we put SPF-info in a 
TXT-record?


My answers would be Yes and Yes.

Ref. : Early implementations used TXT records for implementation before the 
new record type was commonly available in DNS software. Use of TXT records 
for SPF was intended
as a transitional mechanism. However, according to the current RFC, RFC 4408, 
section 3.1.1, An SPF-compliant domain name SHOULD have SPF records of both 
RR types. A
compliant domain name MUST have a record of at least one type, and as such, 
TXT record use is not deprecated.[2]


The SPF type RR seems to me to be dying.  Hardly anyone uses it.

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Re: spf ent txt records.

2013-03-13 Thread Shane Kerr
Hugo,

On Wednesday, 2013-03-13 11:33:35 +, 
hugo hugoo hugo...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,
  
 I received the following question and I am not able to aswer as spf
 records are still mysterious to me. We are using BIND 9.7.
  
 Thanks in advance for your answers,
  
 Hugo,
  
  
  
 Does our DNS-server support SPF-type records? Or do we put SPF-info
 in a TXT-record? 
 Ref. : 
 Early implementations used TXT records for implementation before the
 new record type was commonly available in DNS software. Use of TXT
 records for SPF was intended as a transitional mechanism. However,
 according to the current RFC, RFC 4408, section 3.1.1, An
 SPF-compliant domain name SHOULD have SPF records of both RR types. A
 compliant domain name MUST have a record of at least one type, and
 as such, TXT record use is not deprecated.[2] 

BIND does support the SPF type. Note however that the latest draft
version of SPF actually deprecates SPF, and recommends using TXT
records:

3.1.  DNS Resource Records

   SPF records MUST be published as a DNS TXT (type 16) Resource Record
   (RR) [RFC1035] only.  The character content of the record is encoded
   as [US-ASCII].  Use of alternate DNS RR types was supported in SPF's
   experimental phase, but has been discontinued.  See Appendix A of
   [RFC6686] for further information.

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-spfbis-4408bis/?include_text=1

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Building from source and running in chroot environment

2013-03-13 Thread Spumonti Spumonti
Are there relatively recent instructions on how to build BIND from source and 
run it in a chroot environment? It sounds obvious but everything I've come 
across assumes BIND is provided by some package manager or included with the 
operating system. I'd like to build the latest version of BIND and run it in a 
chroot environment.  I know you have to pre-populate the chroot directories but 
am not entirely clear on everything that's needed.


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Re: spf ent txt records.

2013-03-13 Thread Dave Warren

On 3/13/2013 05:09, G.W. Haywood wrote:


Ref. : Early implementations used TXT records for implementation 
before the new record type was commonly available in DNS software. 
Use of TXT records for SPF was intended
as a transitional mechanism. However, according to the current RFC, 
RFC 4408, section 3.1.1, An SPF-compliant domain name SHOULD have 
SPF records of both RR types. A
compliant domain name MUST have a record of at least one type, and 
as such, TXT record use is not deprecated.[2]


The SPF type RR seems to me to be dying.  Hardly anyone uses it.


This is very true. I updated my management interface to encourage SPF 
records, and to automatically create matching TXT records, but only 
because it's easier to sanity check when I know the intent is SPF.


I almost wouldn't bother with SPF records these days though, except that 
the code was already written.


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Re: Building from source and running in chroot environment

2013-03-13 Thread /dev/rob0
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 08:24:18AM -0700, Spumonti Spumonti wrote:
 Are there relatively recent instructions on how to build BIND from 
 source and run it in a chroot environment? It sounds obvious but 
 everything I've come across assumes BIND is provided by some 
 package manager or included with the operating system. I'd like to 
 build the latest version of BIND and run it in a chroot 
 environment.  I know you have to pre-populate the chroot 
 directories but am not entirely clear on everything that's needed.

Your BIND source package came with the BIND 9 ARM. See chapter 7 
thereof, which covers this.

Bv9ARM.ch07.html#id2603962
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Re: spf ent txt records.

2013-03-13 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2013-03-13 at 14:43 -0700, Dave Warren wrote:

 
 I almost wouldn't bother with SPF records these days though, except that 
 the code was already written.
 

# grep SPF maillog |grep -c '\-all'
2438

# grep SPF maillog |grep -c '\~all'
7509

since midnight Sunday... 

looks like its worth bothering with to me.



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Re: spf ent txt records.

2013-03-13 Thread Dave Warren

On 3/13/2013 17:11, Noel Butler wrote:

On Wed, 2013-03-13 at 14:43 -0700, Dave Warren wrote:

I almost wouldn't bother with SPF records these days though, except that
the code was already written.


# grep SPF maillog |grep -c '\-all'
2438

# grep SPF maillog |grep -c '\~all'
7509


Can you compare that against queries to TXT style SPF records?

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