Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-30 Thread Al Stu
of day. Once upon a time the world was 'flat'. For some of you, apparently is still is 'flat'. - Original Message - From: Michael Milligan mi...@acmeps.com To: Al Stu al_...@verizon.net Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:20 AM Subject: Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-27 Thread Al Stu
: The A query for mx1.xyz.com delivers the address (A) record of srv1.xyz.com, 1.2.3.4, and also delivers the alias (CNAME) record of mx1.xyz.com. *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** - Original Message - From: Mark Andrews mark_andr...@isc.org To: Al Stu

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Al Stu
Thus, if an alias is used as the value of an NS or MX record, no address will be returned with the NS or MX value. Above statement, belief, perception etc. has already been proven to be a fallacy (see the network trace attached to one of the previous messages). Both the CNAME and A record is

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Al Stu
:43, Danny Thomas wrote: Al Stu wrote: So within the zone SMTP requirements are in fact met when the MX RR is a CNAME. you might argue the line of it being OK when additional processing includes an A record. In all the time its taken him to type his rants and raves and have his little dummy

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Al Stu
there is no need for this. And no it does not matter if there are multiple MX records with different preferences values. - Original Message - From: Mark Andrews mark_andr...@isc.org To: Al Stu al_...@verizon.net Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 2:55 PM

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Al Stu
If you refuse a CNAME then it is your SMTP server that is broken. The SMTP RFC's clearly state that SMTP servers are to accept and lookup a CNAME. - Original Message - From: Scott Haneda talkli...@newgeo.com To: Mark Andrews mark_andr...@isc.org Cc: Al Stu al_...@verizon.net; bind

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Al Stu
...@newgeo.com To: Al Stu al_...@verizon.net Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 8:09 PM Subject: Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal On Jan 26, 2009, at 7:54 PM, Al Stu wrote: If you refuse a CNAME then it is your SMTP server that is broken

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Al Stu
in turn when submitted for an A query results in both the A and CNAME being returned. Thus meeting the SMTP RFC requirements. - Original Message - From: Mark Andrews mark_andr...@isc.org To: Al Stu al_...@verizon.net Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 8:41 PM

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Al Stu
- From: Mark Andrews mark_andr...@isc.org To: Al Stu al_...@verizon.net Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:03 PM Subject: Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal In message b3ba5e37553642e28149093cdee78...@ahsnbw1, Al Stu writes

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-25 Thread Al Stu
RFC 2821 is much more recent and clearly documents in sections 3.5 and 5 that CNAME MX RR are permitted and are to be handled by SMTP MTA's. 3.6 Domains Only resolvable, fully-qualified, domain names (FQDNs) are permitted when domain names are used in SMTP. In other words, names that can be

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-25 Thread Al Stu
No I do not believe an extra step was added. Take the following example for instance. STMP server smtp.xyz.com. needs to send a message to some...@xyz.com. An MX lookup is performed for domain xyz.com. and the domain name of mx.xyz.com is returned. This is the first sentence: When a

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-25 Thread Al Stu
was replaced with srv1 3) server ip address was replaced with 1.2.3.4 Requirements are met. - Original Message - From: Matthew Pounsett m...@conundrum.com To: Al Stu al_...@verizon.net Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:49 AM Subject: Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-25 Thread Al Stu
No it is only two steps, see the attachment (sent in previous message). Both the CNAME and A record are returned for the mx.xyz.com DNS A request. And this does met the RFC requirements. - Original Message - From: Matthew Pounsett m...@conundrum.com To: Al Stu al_...@verizon.net Cc

BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-24 Thread Al Stu
along with what is only a perceived rather than actual standard/requirement, and should be removed so as not to further the fallacy of this perceived perception of a standard/requirement, as it is neither a standard nor a requirement, and certainly not illegal. Al Stu