Re: AW: Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service renamed from bind9 to named?

2020-07-20 Thread Michael De Roover
Sorry about that, the email might've been a bit too emotionally loaded. The issues pile up.. and that's eventually the result. I'm not using FreeBSD anywhere anymore but found some resources online suggesting that the package name is bind916. The closest I could find to unwinded is Unbound whi

Re: AW: Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service renamed from bind9 to named?

2020-07-20 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
On 7/20/2020 11:23 AM, Michael De Roover wrote: If that is true, I hereby lost all faith in humanity.. well whatever faith I had left. This has been going on for like half a decade now. Nobody ever went broke catering to the human desire for ease

Re: AW: Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service renamed from bind9 to named?

2020-07-20 Thread Michael De Roover
If that is true, I hereby lost all faith in humanity.. well whatever faith I had left. This has been going on for like half a decade now. A few weeks ago I saw here on the list someone suggesting that BIND is a reference to bondage in BDSM, so perhaps it has to do with that... Lest we forget t

Re: AW: Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service renamed from bind9 to named?

2020-07-20 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
: bind-users [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Ted Mittelstaedt Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 12:57 PM To: bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: Re: AW: Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service renamed from bind9 to named? Your personal experience is not the gobal truth. It is your opini

Re: AW: Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service renamed from bind9 to named?

2020-07-18 Thread Dennis Clarke via bind-users
> So as an experienced person who has been doing this you-nuxs thing since > 1982 - I DON'T see it different - and in fact, I see it as a RETURN to > what it originally was! Exactly ! Hear hear ! Well said. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspend

RE: AW: Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service renamed from bind9 to named?

2020-07-17 Thread John W. Blue
: Friday, July 17, 2020 12:57 PM To: bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: Re: AW: Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service renamed from bind9 to named? > > Your personal experience is not the gobal truth. It is your opinion but other > experienced pepole see it different than you. > Hmm I'm a

Re: AW: Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service renamed from bind9 to named?

2020-07-17 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Your personal experience is not the gobal truth. It is your opinion but other experienced pepole see it different than you. Hmm I'm a bit late to this discussion but I will chime in with the others. The service always was called "named" pronounced "name Dee" it was called that in the Nutsh

Re: AW: Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service renamed from bind9 to named?

2020-04-15 Thread Jim Popovitch via bind-users
On Wed, 2020-04-15 at 10:35 +0200, Klaus Darilion wrote: > Thanks for answer! > > So actually it is just a cosmetic change not addressing a real problem. > > I will miss the bind9 service :-( Wait until you find out about Predicatable Network Interface Names and iptables rules. :) -Jim P. ___

AW: Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service renamed from bind9 to named?

2020-04-15 Thread Klaus Darilion
> Am 15.04.20 um 10:08 schrieb Ondřej Surý: > > you need to stop being rude to people on the bind-users mailing list, > > personal attacks are not acceptable behaviour here. You should apologize > > to Klaus. > > it's not a personal attack to clearly point out that discussions of > distribution le

AW: Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service renamed from bind9 to named?

2020-04-15 Thread Klaus Darilion
Thanks for answer! So actually it is just a cosmetic change not addressing a real problem. I will miss the bind9 service :-( Klaus > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Ondřej Surý > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. April 2020 10:15 > An: Klaus Darilion > Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org > Betreff:

AW: Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service renamed from bind9 to named?

2020-04-15 Thread Klaus Darilion
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: bind-users Im Auftrag von Reindl > Harald > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. April 2020 09:17 > An: bind-users@lists.isc.org > Betreff: Re: Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service renamed from bind9 to > named? > > > > Am 15.04.20 um 09:09 schrieb Klaus Darilion: >

Re: [External] AW: Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service renamed from bind9 to named?

2020-04-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.04.20 um 09:21 schrieb Kevin A. McGrail: > On 4/15/2020 3:09 AM, Klaus Darilion wrote: >> I do not complain about the version number, but of the name. >> >> And in my opinion it is not sane to call a service/package httpd if the name >> of the software is Apache. > > For me, adding the ve

Re: [External] AW: Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service renamed from bind9 to named?

2020-04-15 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 4/15/2020 3:09 AM, Klaus Darilion wrote: > I do not complain about the version number, but of the name. > > And in my opinion it is not sane to call a service/package httpd if the name > of the software is Apache. For me, adding the version number can make sense if there is an intention to hav

Re: AW: Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service renamed from bind9 to named?

2020-04-15 Thread Erich Eckner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, 15 Apr 2020, Klaus Darilion wrote: -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: bind-users Im Auftrag von Reindl Harald Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. April 2020 09:05 An: bind-users@lists.isc.org Betreff: Re: Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service rename

AW: Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service renamed from bind9 to named?

2020-04-15 Thread Klaus Darilion
> > It would be great if you undo this change before release of 18.04 > > you confuse the upstream project with your distribution > > bind9 was completly wrong in the debian world as well as apache2 for > httpd, on sane distributions it's "httpt" and "named" all the years > beause it's nonsense t

AW: Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service renamed from bind9 to named?

2020-04-15 Thread Klaus Darilion
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: bind-users Im Auftrag von Reindl > Harald > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. April 2020 09:05 > An: bind-users@lists.isc.org > Betreff: Re: Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service renamed from bind9 to > named? > > > > Am 15.04.20 um 08:56 schrieb Reindl Harald: > >