Re: recursion on auth-only server

2009-10-06 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
  I have moved authoritative server to new IP address. I have changed the
  DNS name pointing to it so the NS would point to the new IP.
  
  Now I looked at the traffic and it seems that there are ~4 of 1000
  recursive requests sent to it.
  
  Are there any known resolvers that can iterate through NS hierarchy, or
  iterative DNS servers that send resursive requests anywhere?

On 02.10.09 18:50, Peter Dambier wrote:
 I know you can use bind as your local resolver. It does query from the root
 down until it finds what it is looking for - when you don't use forwarders.

I know that too but this particular server isn't designed to be used as
recursive and I don't want it to be.

 dnscache which is part of djbdns does always query from the root down.
 It never uses forwarders.
 
 I don't know for sure if the Authoritative Answer Only bit is set but I
 guess no.

It's RD (recursion desired) flag and my question is if any nameserver is
known by sending queries with this flag set.

I don't care if they do recursion themselves, but if anyone asks this server
with RD flag set, the answer will be venemous.
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Re: recursion on auth-only server

2009-10-06 Thread Barry Margolin
In article mailman.674.1254859742.14796.bind-us...@lists.isc.org,
 Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk wrote:

 It's RD (recursion desired) flag and my question is if any nameserver is
 known by sending queries with this flag set.
 
 I don't care if they do recursion themselves, but if anyone asks this server
 with RD flag set, the answer will be venemous.

Nameservers should only set the RD flag in the queries they send if 
they're configured to use forwarders.  It should never be sent when 
they're following the delegation chain themselves.

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Re: recursion on auth-only server

2009-10-06 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Matus UHLAR - fantomas  uh...@fantomas.sk said:
I don't care if they do recursion themselves, but if anyone asks this server
with RD flag set, the answer will be venemous.

You should realize that anybody trying to debug possible DNS issues
might issue queries directly to your server with tools like dig, which
requests recursion by default.
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Re: recursion on auth-only server

2009-10-02 Thread Peter Dambier
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have moved authoritative server to new IP address. I have changed the DNS
 name pointing to it so the NS would point to the new IP.
 
 Now I looked at the traffic and it seems that there are ~4 of 1000 recursive
 requests sent to it.
 
 Are there any known resolvers that can iterate through NS hierarchy, or
 iterative DNS servers that send resursive requests anywhere?
 

I know you can use bind as your local resolver. It does query from the root
down until it finds what it is looking for - when you don't use forwarders.

dnscache which is part of djbdns does always query from the root down.
It never uses forwarders.

I don't know for sure if the Authoritative Answer Only bit is set but I guess 
no.

Somebody must resolve. So you will see my ISPs resolver querying you if you 
don't
see my own resolver.

With censoring commonplace in europe at least, people with the know do run their
own resolvers. You'll see the number increasing.

I guess 0.4% is harmless. The number I see looks higher and they do not look for
domains I slave.

Kind regards
Peter

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Re: recursion on auth-only server

2009-09-21 Thread Chris Thompson

On Sep 21 2009, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:


I have moved authoritative server to new IP address. I have changed the DNS
name pointing to it so the NS would point to the new IP.

Now I looked at the traffic and it seems that there are ~4 of 1000 recursive
requests sent to it.


And do you know that this was not the case before the move?


Are there any known resolvers that can iterate through NS hierarchy, or
iterative DNS servers that send resursive requests anywhere?


There are all sorts of reasons, from misconfigured resolvers to manual
use of dig (do you always remember to specify +norec when appropriate?).
Query logging will help you track them down if you are really concerned.
At 0.4%, I wouldn't worry.

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