Re: Local Slave copy of root zone

2018-08-21 Thread Doug Barton
On 08/21/2018 08:53 AM, Grant Taylor via bind-users wrote: On 08/20/2018 11:06 PM, Doug Barton wrote: But that doesn't mean that slaving a zone, any zone, including the root, is "dangerous." If slaving zones is dangerous, the DNS is way more fragile than it already is. Sorry, poor chose of

Re: Local Slave copy of root zone

2018-08-21 Thread Grant Taylor via bind-users
On 08/20/2018 11:06 PM, Doug Barton wrote: But that doesn't mean that slaving a zone, any zone, including the root, is "dangerous." If slaving zones is dangerous, the DNS is way more fragile than it already is. Sorry, poor chose of words. The last time I read the RFC discussing slaving the

Re: Local Slave copy of root zone

2018-08-20 Thread Doug Barton
On 08/20/2018 09:00 AM, Grant Taylor via bind-users wrote: On 08/20/2018 05:23 AM, Tony Finch wrote: If the local root zone gets corrupted somehow (maliciously or otherwise) the usual setup cannot detect a problem, but it'll cause DNSSEC validation failures downstream. The normal resolver /

Re: Local Slave copy of root zone

2018-08-20 Thread Grant Taylor via bind-users
On 08/20/2018 05:23 AM, Tony Finch wrote: If the local root zone gets corrupted somehow (maliciously or otherwise) the usual setup cannot detect a problem, but it'll cause DNSSEC validation failures downstream. The normal resolver / validator algorithm is more robust. The new mirror zone

Re: Local Slave copy of root zone

2018-08-20 Thread Tony Finch
Doug Barton wrote: > > How, specifically, is DNSSEC affected by the validating resolver having a > local copy of the root zone? If the local root zone gets corrupted somehow (maliciously or otherwise) the usual setup cannot detect a problem, but it'll cause DNSSEC validation failures downstream.

Re: Local Slave copy of root zone

2018-08-18 Thread Doug Barton
On 2018-08-15 10:43, Tony Finch wrote: Doug Barton wrote: Slaving the root and ARPA zones is a small benefit to performance for a busy resolver, [...] This technique is particularly useful for folks in bad/expensive network conditions. While the current anycast networks of root servers

Re: Local Slave copy of root zone

2018-08-16 Thread Michał Kępień
> BIND 9.14 will have an improved local root implementation (called a > "mirror" zone) which validates the zone so you don't blindly serve bogus > data. The feature is available now in the 9.13 dev branch; I have not > tried mirroring the arpa zones - the docs suggest that isn't a supported >

Re: Local Slave copy of root zone

2018-08-15 Thread Tony Finch
Doug Barton wrote: > > Slaving the root and ARPA zones is a small benefit to performance for a busy > resolver, [...] > This technique is particularly useful for folks in bad/expensive network > conditions. While the current anycast networks of root servers is much better > than it was "in the

Re: Local Slave copy of root zone

2018-08-15 Thread Doug Barton
On 08/15/2018 09:11 AM, Bob McDonald wrote: I've recently been investigating having a local slave copy of the root zone on a caching/forwarder type server. I've even put the local slave copy of the root zone into a separate view accessed via a different loopback address. (An limited example of

Re: Local Slave copy of root zone

2018-08-15 Thread Bob McDonald
Thank you sir! I'll investigate the newer bind implementations. Regards. Bob On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 12:41 PM Tony Finch wrote: > Bob McDonald wrote: > > > I've recently been investigating having a local slave copy of the root > zone > > on a caching/forwarder type server. > > I do this on

Re: Local Slave copy of root zone

2018-08-15 Thread Tony Finch
Bob McDonald wrote: > I've recently been investigating having a local slave copy of the root zone > on a caching/forwarder type server. I do this on my toy server for various strange reasons, and although it has worked OK I'm not confident it's really solid enough for production. If you are