Re: what do you use for logging?
On 17 Jan 2013, at 20:58, Mike Hoskins (michoski) wrote: Syslog as the default is perfectly fine with us. Please keep that as the default, following the principle of least astonishment. I do also use the rotated file method a few places, so hoping that doesn't disappear. I would hope so too, not that we use it. Thanks for asking the list. +1 /Niall ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: what do you use for logging?
On 18 Jan 2013, at 06:27, Jan-Piet Mens wrote: Could CLI utility be man(1) and info(1)? :-) It could, yes, but `b10-msg NNN` isn't going to break BIND 10's development budget (I hope), +1 and I feel it to be more practical than scrolling through a man page with 900+ error-messages in it. ;) I'm not sure I see the big practical advantage over 'C-S' in info or '/' in the pager invoked by man. I would see the man page as indispensible, and a bespoke utility as merely cool. /N ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: what do you use for logging?
On 17 Jan 2013, at 18:33, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: BIND 9 by default has logging using syslog, using its daemon facility, and logging of info or higher. Is using syslog a sane default for new installations or when using official vendor packages with their startup scripts? Definitely. Do any packagers provide a configuration with different-than-default logging setup? (What and why?) I'm sorry; I don't know. Apart from one exceptional NetBSD box, I always build from source and avoid whatever the packager offers. Best regards Niall O'Reilly ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: what do you use for logging?
All, On Friday, 2013-01-18 10:01:49 +, Niall O'Reilly niall.orei...@ucd.ie wrote: On 18 Jan 2013, at 06:27, Jan-Piet Mens wrote: Could CLI utility be man(1) and info(1)? :-) It could, yes, but `b10-msg NNN` isn't going to break BIND 10's development budget (I hope), +1 and I feel it to be more practical than scrolling through a man page with 900+ error-messages in it. ;) I'm not sure I see the big practical advantage over 'C-S' in info or '/' in the pager invoked by man. I would see the man page as indispensible, and a bespoke utility as merely cool. Okay, I think both of these suggestions are straightforward and make sense. (Meaning a utility and a man page.) I've created tickets for them so we can make these. https://bind10.isc.org/ticket/2639 https://bind10.isc.org/ticket/2640 -- Shane ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: what do you use for logging?
Is using syslog a sane default for new installations or when using official vendor packages with their startup scripts? I for one would not want to miss BIND9's logging to auto-rotated files: file /var/named/log/named.log versions 10 size 5m; Other than that, I'd say logging via syslog is a sane default, and it allows people to easily forward syslog to log hosts (or Logstash, etc.). By the way, all of the BIND10 logging messages are unique and we provide a paragraph or more documentation for each of its 933 possible log identifiers!) I haven't checked whether you have that, but that screams for a CLI utility to show the paragraph without having to browse documentation. :) -JP ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: what do you use for logging?
-Original Message- From: Alan Batie a...@peak.org Date: Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:52 PM To: bind-users@lists.isc.org bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: Re: what do you use for logging? On 1/17/13 10:48 AM, Jan-Piet Mens wrote: By the way, all of the BIND10 logging messages are unique and we provide a paragraph or more documentation for each of its 933 possible log identifiers!) I haven't checked whether you have that, but that screams for a CLI utility to show the paragraph without having to browse documentation. :) Agreed! We use rsyslog here... Could CLI utility be man(1) and info(1)? :-) I agree, being able to access the full documentation from command line is always useful...but probably doesn't require a new utility so much as an investment in porting documentation to applicable formats. FWIW, we package our own from source internally, and use syslog-ng/rsyslog/logstash/elasticsearch. Syslog as the default is perfectly fine with us. I do also use the rotated file method a few places, so hoping that doesn't disappear. Thanks for asking the list. ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
