Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Legal Defense Fund

2022-01-21 Thread Zac Greenwood via bitcoin-dev
The name of the fund should ideally unambiguously clarify its scope, i.e., Bitcoin & development. So maybe “Bitcoin Developers Community LDF”. Or perhaps “Bitcoin Technical Community LDF” which nicely abbreviates to BTCLDF. Zac On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 at 19:49, jack via bitcoin-dev <

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Legal Defense Fund

2022-01-14 Thread Jeremy via bitcoin-dev
If I understand the intent of your message correctly, that's unfortunately not how the law works. If there is a case that is precedent setting, whether it directly involves bitcoin or not, a bitcoin focused legal fund might want to either offer representation or file an amicus brief to guide the

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Legal Defense Fund

2022-01-14 Thread qmccormick13 via bitcoin-dev
I very much hope the fund will not finance lawsuits irrelevant to bitcoin. On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 5:23 PM Aymeric Vitte via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > (P2P?) Electronic Cash (Defense?) Fund or Electronic Cash Foundation ? > More neutral, potentially covering

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Legal Defense Fund

2022-01-14 Thread Aymeric Vitte via bitcoin-dev
(P2P?) Electronic Cash (Defense?) Fund or Electronic Cash Foundation ? More neutral, potentially covering others than Bitcoin, mimicking a bit EFF (even if as stated US is not the only target), referring to Satoshi's paper where everything started Maybe I am not up to date but it would be good to

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Legal Defense Fund

2022-01-13 Thread Antoine Riard via bitcoin-dev
> One question I have is how you might describe the differences between what BLDF can accomplish and what e.g. EFF can accomplish. Having been represented by the EFF on more than one occasion, they are fantastic. Do you feel that the Bitcoin-specific focus of BLDF outweighs the more general (but

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Legal Defense Fund

2022-01-13 Thread Steve Lee via bitcoin-dev
That's a good point. Agree! On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 10:54 AM Alex Schoof wrote: > > I also don't see why Alex or anyone should be denied the opportunity to > comment on future soft forks or anything about bitcoin. Alex should have no > more or less right to participate and his comments should

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Legal Defense Fund

2022-01-13 Thread Alex Morcos via bitcoin-dev
To belatedly answer Rene's question: Yes, we hope so. To start, the Fund will focus on the defense of the pending litigation and new litigation that may arise. However, we intend to build up the capacity to provide competent third-party advice to developers on strategies to reduce their

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Legal Defense Fund

2022-01-13 Thread Alex Schoof via bitcoin-dev
> I also don't see why Alex or anyone should be denied the opportunity to comment on future soft forks or anything about bitcoin. Alex should have no more or less right to participate and his comments should be judged on their merit, just like yours and mine. I think the concern is something

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Legal Defense Fund

2022-01-13 Thread Jeremy via bitcoin-dev
A further point -- were it to be a norm if a contributor to something like this be denied their full capacity for "free speech" by social convention, it would either encourage anonymous funding (less accountable) or would disincentivize creating such initiatives in the future. Both of those

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Legal Defense Fund

2022-01-13 Thread jack via bitcoin-dev
Hi Prayank, > On 13 Jan 2022, at 10:13, Prayank wrote: > I had few suggestions and feel free to ignore them if they do not make sense: > > 1.Name of this fund could be anything and 'The Bitcoin Legal Defense Fund' > can be confusing or misleading for newbies. There is nothing official in >

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Legal Defense Fund

2022-01-13 Thread Prayank via bitcoin-dev
Hi Jack, > The main purpose of this Fund is to defend developers from lawsuits regarding >their activities in the Bitcoin ecosystem, including finding and retaining >defense counsel, developing litigation strategy, and paying legal bills. This >is a free and voluntary option for developers to

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Legal Defense Fund

2022-01-12 Thread SatoshiSingh via bitcoin-dev
> The main purpose of this Fund is to defend developers from lawsuits regarding > their activities in the Bitcoin ecosystem, including finding and retaining > defense counsel, developing litigation strategy, and paying legal bills. Here in India we have the Internet Freedom Foundation that does

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Legal Defense Fund

2022-01-11 Thread Christopher Allen via bitcoin-dev
On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 5:02 PM René Pickhardt via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > Will the fund eventually also help to educate developers about the risks > they are facing and which measures can be taken to reduce such risks so > that legal pressure might not even

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Legal Defense Fund

2022-01-11 Thread René Pickhardt via bitcoin-dev
jack via bitcoin-dev schrieb am Mi., 12. Jan. 2022, 01:35: > To Bitcoin Developers: > > Open-source developers, who are often independent, are especially > susceptible to legal pressure. Will the fund eventually also help to educate developers about the risks they are facing and which measures

[bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Legal Defense Fund

2022-01-11 Thread jack via bitcoin-dev
To Bitcoin Developers: The Bitcoin community is currently the subject of multi-front litigation. Litigation and continued threats are having their intended effect; individual defendants have chosen to capitulate in the absence of legal support. Open-source developers, who are often