Re: [bitcoin-dev] A Proposed Compromise to the Block Size Limit

2015-06-27 Thread Michael Naber
networks. Bitcoin Core scales as O(N), where N is the number of transactions. Can we do better than this while still achieving global consensus? On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Peter Todd p...@petertodd.org wrote: On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 12:09:16PM -0400, Michael Naber wrote: The goal

Re: [bitcoin-dev] A Proposed Compromise to the Block Size Limit

2015-06-27 Thread Michael Naber
: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 27 June 2015 10:39:51 GMT-04:00, Michael Naber mickey...@gmail.com wrote: Compromise: Can we agree that raising the block size to a static 8MB now with a plan to increase it further should demand necessitate except in the special case

[bitcoin-dev] Reaching consensus on policy to continually increase block size limit as hardware improves, and a few other critical issues

2015-07-01 Thread Michael Naber
by hash-rate even today. That's why Pieter posed the question - are we already at the policy limit - maybe the blocks we're seeing are closely tracking policy limits, if someone mapped that and asked miners by hash-rate etc. On 30 June 2015 at 18:35, Michael Naber mickey...@gmail.com wrote: Re

[bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Core: The globally aware global consensus network

2015-06-29 Thread Michael Naber
Bitcoin is globally aware global consensus. It means every node both knows about and agrees on every transaction. Do we need global awareness of every transaction to run a worldwide payment network? Of course not! In fact the limits of today's technology probably would not even allow it.

[bitcoin-dev] Block size increase oppositionists: please clearly define what you need done to increase block size to a static 8MB, and help do it

2015-06-30 Thread Michael Naber
As you know I'm trying to lobby for a block size increase to a static 8MB. I'm happy to try to get the testing done that people want done for this, but I think the real crux of this issue is that we need to get consensus that we intend to continually push the block size upward as bounded only by

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Block size increase oppositionists: please clearly define what you need done to increase block size to a static 8MB, and help do it

2015-06-30 Thread Michael Naber
Re: Why bother doubling capacity? So that we could have 2x more network participants of course. Re: No clear way to scaling beyond that: Computers are getting more capable aren't they? We'll increase capacity along with hardware. It's a good thing to scale the network if technology permits it.

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Fees and the block-finding process

2015-08-11 Thread Michael Naber via bitcoin-dev
consensus on the criticality of the block size issue: do you agree, disagree, or not take a side, and why? On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Pieter Wuille pieter.wui...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Michael Naber via bitcoin-dev bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org wrote

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Fees and the block-finding process

2015-08-11 Thread Michael Naber via bitcoin-dev
is trustlessness - being able to transact without relying on third parties. Adam On 11 August 2015 at 22:18, Michael Naber via bitcoin-dev bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org wrote: The only reason why Bitcoin has grown the way it has, and in fact the only reason why we're all even here

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Fees and the block-finding process

2015-08-11 Thread Michael Naber via bitcoin-dev
11, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Jorge Timón jti...@jtimon.cc wrote: On Aug 11, 2015 8:55 PM, Michael Naber mickey...@gmail.com wrote: It generally doesn't matter that every node validate your coffee transaction, and those transactions can and will probably be moved onto offchain solutions in order

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT 0.11A

2015-08-15 Thread Michael Naber via bitcoin-dev
Bitcoin has no elections; it has no courts. If not through attempting a hard-fork, how should we properly resolve irreconcilable disagreements? On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Eric Lombrozo via bitcoin-dev bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org wrote: Please take the lightning 101 discussion

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Fees and the block-finding process

2015-08-11 Thread Michael Naber via bitcoin-dev
All things considered, if people want to participate in a global consensus network, and the technology exist to do it at a lower cost, then is it sensible or even possible to somehow arbitrarily set the price of participating in a global consensus network to be expensive? Can someone please walk

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Fwd: Block size following technological growth

2015-08-06 Thread Michael Naber via bitcoin-dev
How many nodes are necessary to ensure sufficient network reliability? Ten, a hundred, a thousand? At what point do we hit the point of diminishing returns, where adding extra nodes starts to have negligible impact on the overall reliability of the system? On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:26 AM,