Re: [Bitcoin-development] Feedback request: colored coins protocol

2014-04-11 Thread Flavien Charlon
I have updated the spechttps://github.com/Flavien/colored-coins-protocol/blob/master/specification.mediawiki . This is an interesting approach, but OP_RETURN size limitations can be a significant problem for some kinds of applications. This is correct, the number of colored outputs you can have

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Feedback request: colored coins protocol

2014-04-10 Thread Flavien Charlon
Thanks for the valuable feedback. I see there is a strong concern with requiring a large BTC capital for issuing coloring coins, so I am now in the process of modifying the specification to address that. I will post an update when this is finished. By the way, padding doesn't solve the issue

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Feedback request: colored coins protocol

2014-04-10 Thread Alex Mizrahi
At this point, I don't think what you are doing is even colored coins anymore. You might want to look into Counterparty or Mastercoin. Nope, it's still colored coins. The difference between colored coin model and Mastercoin model is that colored coins are linked to transaction outputs, while

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Feedback request: colored coins protocol

2014-04-07 Thread Flavien Charlon
Thanks for the feedback Mark. (1) there is absolutely no reason to include asset tagging information if it is not validated Sure, there is a good reason to include it in the blockchain: so that clients don't need external information to recognize colored coins. Also, I'm not sure what you mean

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Feedback request: colored coins protocol

2014-04-07 Thread Jorge Timón
On 4/7/14, Flavien Charlon flavien.char...@coinprism.com wrote: Also those 54 BTC (actually 5.4 BTC if the dust is now 540 satoshis) become part of the capital of the company, and can always be recovered by uncoloring the shares. It's an investment, not an expense, so I think it is acceptable.

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Feedback request: colored coins protocol

2014-04-07 Thread Flavien Charlon
Jorge, they'd have to be. Otherwise, assuming the price of the share goes low enough, you could buy a share of the company, melt the gold plate, and sell it for a profit. If the gold is part of the capital of the company, the cheapest a share can be is the price of the gold on which the stock

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Feedback request: colored coins protocol

2014-04-07 Thread Mark Friedenbach
Flavien, capital is wealth or resources available for the stated purpose of the company. These bitcoins represent nothing more than a speculative floor owned by the investors, not the company. On 04/07/2014 07:00 AM, Flavien Charlon wrote: Jorge, they'd have to be. Otherwise, assuming the price

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Feedback request: colored coins protocol

2014-04-07 Thread Jorge Timón
On 4/7/14, Flavien Charlon flavien.char...@coinprism.com wrote: Ok, I guess I'm not using the proper terminology. It would be listed on the Asset section of the company's balance sheet, is what I meant. No, it's an asset for the owner of the share, not the company, just like the gold plates are

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Feedback request: colored coins protocol

2014-04-07 Thread Flavien Charlon
An IOU written in a gold plate sure makes no sense. I see what you are saying, the inconvenience comes from the fact that the buyer has to buy some amount of BTC at the same time as he buys a share. That's why I was making the point that you could have a colored coin representing a single share,