Re: [Bitcoin-development] Version bytes 2.0

2011-12-13 Thread Mike Hearn
Why does anyone care what an address looks like? If the user is seeing an address, that's a usability fail right there. It's common today because AFAIK nobody finished off the URL handling support in the main client for browser integration. It'd be a much better use of time to finish off that

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases

2011-12-13 Thread Mike Hearn
I was in brmlab and wanted to pay 1 BTC for a Club Mate. They had on the wall a picture of their QR code and a bitcoin address. I don't own a mobile phone so the QR code is useless. Fixed addresses like that are a temporary thing during Bitcoins maturation period. They lead to merchants

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Version bytes 2.0

2011-12-13 Thread Wladimir
All, I fully agree with Mike Hearn on this. Like email addresses, bank numbers, phone numbers, IPv4/v6 addresses and such the bitcoin address is just an opaque identifier for machines to be able to send each other messages. Base58 was chosen not for human readability but to make it easy to

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Version bytes 2.0

2011-12-13 Thread Mike Hearn
Base58 was chosen not for human readability but to make it easy to copy/paste. It was also chosen for hand-writeability, weirdly enough. That's why it excludes some confusible characters. But Satoshi didn't really understand how people would end up using Bitcoin, he originally imagined most

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases

2011-12-13 Thread Gavin Andresen
I agree with Mike Hearn and Christian Decker-- paying to 'someb...@foo.com' should become, behind the scenes, a HTTPS query to https://foo.com/something. If you just want to (say) donate to eff.org, then paying to '@eff.org' aught to work nicely. And if namecoin ever takes off you'll pay to

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases

2011-12-13 Thread Luke-Jr
On Tuesday, December 13, 2011 8:06:15 AM Gavin Andresen wrote: I agree with Mike Hearn and Christian Decker-- paying to 'someb...@foo.com' should become, behind the scenes, a HTTPS query to https://foo.com/something. If you just want to (say) donate to eff.org, then paying to '@eff.org' aught

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases

2011-12-13 Thread Walter Stanish
Interesting thread. Given the following paragraph and the limited feedback garnered upon its announcement to this list last month, I couldn't help but chime in again to mention IIBAN, an Internet Standards Draft available at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-iiban-00 (A related proposal for

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases

2011-12-13 Thread Jorge Timón
(6) Settlement system neutral - ie: not bitcoin-centric. ... Also, a single address could be paid via multiple channels (conventional financial systems, bitcoin, LETS systems, etc.) resulting in greater ease of uptake and higher user confidence over time since published banking information is

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases

2011-12-13 Thread Andy Parkins
On 2011 December 13 Tuesday, Amir Taaki wrote: Maybe I wasn't clear enough in the document, but this is the intent with the HTTPS proposal. I don't like the idea of a hard-coded mapping at all. We shouldn't be making choices on behalf of server operators. It's up to them how they arrange

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases

2011-12-13 Thread Walter Stanish
Nifty!  Thanks for the pointers, I think we should avoid reinventing wheels whenever possible. Hear hear! When composing my last response in this thread I wrote, and then erased: There doesn't have to be one solution: I'd like to see some experimentation, with clients supporting different