Re: [Bitcoin-development] Detailed gitian build guide

[Wladimir]

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 6:47 AM, devrandom wrote:

> Nice!
>
> I wonder how much of this could be scripted.
>

Everything, probably, using vmbuilder (and/or vagrant as Nick Simpson
suggests). But that's not the point here. It is to provide exact steps that
people can follow to get a basic (virtual) machine that they can use to do
gitian builds.

I didn't want to end up with a gitian-builder-that-builds-a-gitian-builder
:-) The host machine may not even have any scripting languages installed
(in the case of Windows).

It may be possible to script *some* parts (most of the quoted bash script
is runnable as script) without automating the entire process, but I hope
that over time we can make Gitian itself easier to use/setup, so that less
steps are needed in the first place.

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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Detailed gitian build guide

[devrandom]

Nice!

I wonder how much of this could be scripted.

On Wed, 2014-04-02 at 14:27 +0200, Wladimir wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> 
> I'm working on a detailed guide on how to install and set up a Debian
> VM for gitian building. As this guide can be used on any operating
> system that has VirtualBox, hopefully this will make it easier for
> people to get started with gitian builds.
> 
> 
> See https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/3994
> 
> 
> Rendered version is here:
> https://github.com/laanwj/bitcoin/blob/2014_04_debian_gitian_build_doc/doc/gitian-building.md
> 
> 
> 
> Comments and patches are welcome.
> 
> If you bump into problems while following the guide please let me
> know.
> 
> 
> 
> Wladimir
> 
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Okay, time to bring up bitcoin/bitcoin

[Kevin]

On 4/2/2014 12:45 PM, Laszlo Hanyecz wrote:
> Maybe he has a fork on the real github.com and the link was a mistake.
>
> http://news.nurse.com/article/20121203/NY02/112030026#.Uzw5UVy2uw8
>
> I think it's possible that 'Kevin' is for real and maybe he doesn't realize 
> he linked to a phishing site, if it was an accident.  If this is the same 
> person, then he's blind, and maybe that's why he wrote 'U R L' instead of the 
> usual 'URL', by using speech to text or some other assistive tech.  It might 
> be that he tried to fork github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin and just provided the 
> wrong link.  But regardless, stay away from the one with two Bs in it.
>
> Thanks,
> Laszlo
>
>
> On Apr 2, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Kevin  wrote:
>
>> On 4/2/2014 11:45 AM, Ricardo Filipe wrote:
>>> Kevin,
>>> the thing is you gave us a bad link... what is the correct URL of your 
>>> project?
>>>
>>> 2014-04-02 16:30 GMT+01:00 Kevin :
 On 4/2/2014 11:13 AM, Laszlo Hanyecz wrote:
> Maybe this site serves up exploits selectively?  I'm guessing most people 
> are getting the 'domain for sale' but whoever is the target probably gets 
> something special?
>
> On Apr 2, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Kevin  wrote:
>
>> On 4/2/2014 9:08 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>>> At first, this is a poor choice of URL.
>>>
>>> But it really looks like a phishing attempt that no one should visit.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Kevin  wrote:
 I've sat on this for some time after starting this.  I have forked this
 from bitcoin core and am working on a secure tax "mode" for bitcoin.  
 It
 is written in Autoit.  I know I know, scripting language alert!  I 
 would
 like people to look at:
 http://www.githubb.com/bitcoin/bitcoin
 Look at it, and let's have an open dialog about it.  I want to know the
 good, the bad, and the ugly!

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>> As far as choice of U R L, it may be a poor choice but I did this
>> because I wanted it connected with the core.  As far as fishing it
>> certainly is not that!  This is a serious project.
>>
>>
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 I tell you that this is a serious project for bitcoin.  You are free to
 assume the worst.  After all, I did say the good the bad and the ugly
 would come out of this.  I happen to be a big believer in bitcoin and I
 feel this project holds water.  If you disagree, that's fine.


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>> I understand now why someone thought I was fishing.  That link should work 
>> just fine...I'm not sure what the problem is as I know I forked correctly.  
>> I guess I'll need to register a domain for it an get a page going and link 
>> from there.  I just haven't gotten around to it but will do that.  I'll get 
>> going!  Just know that I would never set up fishing; that's not my style.
>>
>>
>> -- 
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>>
Thank you for giving me the benifit of the doubt.  I did not realize my 
mistake.  I hope we can now get back to talking about bitcoin


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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Okay, time to bring up bitcoin/bitcoin

[Kevin]

On 4/2/2014 12:55 PM, Jud wrote:

Looks like Kevin was probably trying to point us to his fork for comments:

https://github.com/kjsisco/bitcoin/tree/patch-1

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On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Laszlo Hanyecz wrote:

Maybe he has a fork on the real github.com  and 
the link was a mistake.


http://news.nurse.com/article/20121203/NY02/112030026#.Uzw5UVy2uw8

I think it's possible that 'Kevin' is for real and maybe he doesn't 
realize he linked to a phishing site, if it was an accident. If this 
is the same person, then he's blind, and maybe that's why he wrote 'U 
R L' instead of the usual 'URL', by using speech to text or some 
other assistive tech. It might be that he tried to fork 
github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin  and 
just provided the wrong link. But regardless, stay away from the one 
with two Bs in it.


Thanks,
Laszlo


On Apr 2, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Kevin > wrote:



On 4/2/2014 11:45 AM, Ricardo Filipe wrote:

Kevin,
the thing is you gave us a bad link... what is the correct URL of 
your project?


2014-04-02 16:30 GMT+01:00 Kevin >:

On 4/2/2014 11:13 AM, Laszlo Hanyecz wrote:
Maybe this site serves up exploits selectively? I'm guessing most 
people are getting the 'domain for sale' but whoever is the 
target probably gets something special?


On Apr 2, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Kevin > wrote:



On 4/2/2014 9:08 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote:

At first, this is a poor choice of URL.

But it really looks like a phishing attempt that no one should 
visit.



On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Kevin 
mailto:kevinsisco61...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
I've sat on this for some time after starting this. I have 
forked this
from bitcoin core and am working on a secure tax "mode" for 
bitcoin. It
is written in Autoit. I know I know, scripting language alert! 
I would

like people to look at:
http://www.githubb.com/bitcoin/bitcoin
Look at it, and let's have an open dialog about it. I want to 
know the

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As far as choice of U R L, it may be a poor choice but I did this
because I wanted it connected with the core. As far as fishing it
certainly is not that! This is a serious project.


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I tell you that this is a serious project for bitcoin. You are free to
assume the worst. After all, I did say the good the bad and the ugly
would come out of this. I happen to be a big believer in bitcoin and I
feel this project holds water. If you disagree, that's fine.


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I understand now why someone thought I was fishing. That link should 
work just fine...I'm not sure what the problem is as I know I forked 
correctly. I guess I'll need to register a domain for it an get a 
page going and link from there. I just haven't gotten around to it 
but will do that. I'll get going! Just know that I would never set 
up fishing; that's not my style.



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I was trying to point you to that.  I am embarrassed.


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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Okay, time to bring up bitcoin/bitcoin

[Laszlo Hanyecz]

Maybe he has a fork on the real github.com and the link was a mistake.

http://news.nurse.com/article/20121203/NY02/112030026#.Uzw5UVy2uw8

I think it's possible that 'Kevin' is for real and maybe he doesn't realize he 
linked to a phishing site, if it was an accident.  If this is the same person, 
then he's blind, and maybe that's why he wrote 'U R L' instead of the usual 
'URL', by using speech to text or some other assistive tech.  It might be that 
he tried to fork github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin and just provided the wrong link.  
But regardless, stay away from the one with two Bs in it.

Thanks,
Laszlo


On Apr 2, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Kevin  wrote:

> On 4/2/2014 11:45 AM, Ricardo Filipe wrote:
>> Kevin,
>> the thing is you gave us a bad link... what is the correct URL of your 
>> project?
>> 
>> 2014-04-02 16:30 GMT+01:00 Kevin :
>>> On 4/2/2014 11:13 AM, Laszlo Hanyecz wrote:
 Maybe this site serves up exploits selectively?  I'm guessing most people 
 are getting the 'domain for sale' but whoever is the target probably gets 
 something special?
 
 On Apr 2, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Kevin  wrote:
 
> On 4/2/2014 9:08 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> At first, this is a poor choice of URL.
>> 
>> But it really looks like a phishing attempt that no one should visit.
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Kevin  wrote:
>>> I've sat on this for some time after starting this.  I have forked this
>>> from bitcoin core and am working on a secure tax "mode" for bitcoin.  It
>>> is written in Autoit.  I know I know, scripting language alert!  I would
>>> like people to look at:
>>> http://www.githubb.com/bitcoin/bitcoin
>>> Look at it, and let's have an open dialog about it.  I want to know the
>>> good, the bad, and the ugly!
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Kevin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> ___
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>>> Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
> As far as choice of U R L, it may be a poor choice but I did this
> because I wanted it connected with the core.  As far as fishing it
> certainly is not that!  This is a serious project.
> 
> 
> --
> Kevin
> 
> 
> --
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>>> I tell you that this is a serious project for bitcoin.  You are free to
>>> assume the worst.  After all, I did say the good the bad and the ugly
>>> would come out of this.  I happen to be a big believer in bitcoin and I
>>> feel this project holds water.  If you disagree, that's fine.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Kevin
>>> 
>>> 
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> I understand now why someone thought I was fishing.  That link should work 
> just fine...I'm not sure what the problem is as I know I forked correctly.  I 
> guess I'll need to register a domain for it an get a page going and link from 
> there.  I just haven't gotten around to it but will do that.  I'll get going! 
>  Just know that I would never set up fishing; that's not my style.
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 


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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Okay, time to bring up bitcoin/bitcoin

[Jud]

Looks like Kevin was probably trying to point us to his fork for comments:

https://github.com/kjsisco/bitcoin/tree/patch-1 

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On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Laszlo Hanyecz wrote:

> Maybe he has a fork on the real github.com (http://github.com) and the link 
> was a mistake.
> 
> http://news.nurse.com/article/20121203/NY02/112030026#.Uzw5UVy2uw8
> 
> I think it's possible that 'Kevin' is for real and maybe he doesn't realize 
> he linked to a phishing site, if it was an accident. If this is the same 
> person, then he's blind, and maybe that's why he wrote 'U R L' instead of the 
> usual 'URL', by using speech to text or some other assistive tech. It might 
> be that he tried to fork github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin 
> (http://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin) and just provided the wrong link. But 
> regardless, stay away from the one with two Bs in it.
> 
> Thanks,
> Laszlo
> 
> 
> On Apr 2, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Kevin  (mailto:kevinsisco61...@gmail.com)> wrote:
> 
> > On 4/2/2014 11:45 AM, Ricardo Filipe wrote:
> > > Kevin,
> > > the thing is you gave us a bad link... what is the correct URL of your 
> > > project?
> > > 
> > > 2014-04-02 16:30 GMT+01:00 Kevin  > > (mailto:kevinsisco61...@gmail.com)>:
> > > > On 4/2/2014 11:13 AM, Laszlo Hanyecz wrote:
> > > > > Maybe this site serves up exploits selectively? I'm guessing most 
> > > > > people are getting the 'domain for sale' but whoever is the target 
> > > > > probably gets something special?
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Apr 2, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Kevin  > > > > (mailto:kevinsisco61...@gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On 4/2/2014 9:08 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> > > > > > > At first, this is a poor choice of URL.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > But it really looks like a phishing attempt that no one should 
> > > > > > > visit.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Kevin  > > > > > > (mailto:kevinsisco61...@gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > > > > > > I've sat on this for some time after starting this. I have 
> > > > > > > > forked this
> > > > > > > > from bitcoin core and am working on a secure tax "mode" for 
> > > > > > > > bitcoin. It
> > > > > > > > is written in Autoit. I know I know, scripting language alert! 
> > > > > > > > I would
> > > > > > > > like people to look at:
> > > > > > > > http://www.githubb.com/bitcoin/bitcoin
> > > > > > > > Look at it, and let's have an open dialog about it. I want to 
> > > > > > > > know the
> > > > > > > > good, the bad, and the ugly!
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Kevin
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > > Bitcoin-development mailing list
> > > > > > > > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net 
> > > > > > > > (mailto:Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net)
> > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > As far as choice of U R L, it may be a poor choice but I did this
> > > > > > because I wanted it connected with the core. As far as fishing it
> > > > > > certainly is not that! This is a serious project.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Kevin
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
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> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I tell you that this is a serious project for bitcoin. You are free to
> > > > assume the worst. After all, I did say the good the bad and the ugly
> > > > would come out of this. I happen to be a big believer in bitcoin and I
> > > > feel this project holds water. If you disagree, that's fine.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > Kevin
> > > > 
> > > > 
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> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > I understand now why someone thought I was fishing. That link should work 
> > just fine...I'm not sure what the problem is as I know I forked correctly. 
> > I guess I'll need to register a domain for it an get a page going and link 
> > from there. I just haven't gotten around to it but will do that. I'll get 
> > going! Just know that I would never set up fishing; that's not my style.
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Kevin
>

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Okay, time to bring up bitcoin/bitcoin

[Kevin]

On 4/2/2014 11:45 AM, Ricardo Filipe wrote:
> Kevin,
> the thing is you gave us a bad link... what is the correct URL of your 
> project?
>
> 2014-04-02 16:30 GMT+01:00 Kevin :
>> On 4/2/2014 11:13 AM, Laszlo Hanyecz wrote:
>>> Maybe this site serves up exploits selectively?  I'm guessing most people 
>>> are getting the 'domain for sale' but whoever is the target probably gets 
>>> something special?
>>>
>>> On Apr 2, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Kevin  wrote:
>>>
 On 4/2/2014 9:08 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> At first, this is a poor choice of URL.
>
> But it really looks like a phishing attempt that no one should visit.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Kevin  wrote:
>> I've sat on this for some time after starting this.  I have forked this
>> from bitcoin core and am working on a secure tax "mode" for bitcoin.  It
>> is written in Autoit.  I know I know, scripting language alert!  I would
>> like people to look at:
>> http://www.githubb.com/bitcoin/bitcoin
>> Look at it, and let's have an open dialog about it.  I want to know the
>> good, the bad, and the ugly!
>>
>> --
>> Kevin
>>
>>
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 As far as choice of U R L, it may be a poor choice but I did this
 because I wanted it connected with the core.  As far as fishing it
 certainly is not that!  This is a serious project.


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>> I tell you that this is a serious project for bitcoin.  You are free to
>> assume the worst.  After all, I did say the good the bad and the ugly
>> would come out of this.  I happen to be a big believer in bitcoin and I
>> feel this project holds water.  If you disagree, that's fine.
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
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I understand now why someone thought I was fishing.  That link should 
work just fine...I'm not sure what the problem is as I know I forked 
correctly.  I guess I'll need to register a domain for it an get a page 
going and link from there.  I just haven't gotten around to it but will 
do that.  I'll get going!  Just know that I would never set up fishing; 
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Okay, time to bring up bitcoin/bitcoin

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On 04/02/2014 03:41 PM, Laszlo Hanyecz wrote:
> www.githubb.com resolves to addresses announced by AS53665
> 
> Some basic info about AS53665 can be seen at
> http://bgp.he.net/AS53665 They probably have a dedi or VPS at
> Cogent.  They didn't even create an IRR record for their AS or
> their only route.
> 
> Let's see what google has to say about malware from AS53665 (TL;DR
> - it's a malware site) 
> http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=AS:53665

Be careful out there.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140124/10564825981/nsa-interception-action-tor-developers-computer-gets-mysteriously-re-routed-to-virginia.shtml


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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Okay, time to bring up bitcoin/bitcoin

[Ricardo Filipe]

Kevin,
the thing is you gave us a bad link... what is the correct URL of your project?

2014-04-02 16:30 GMT+01:00 Kevin :
> On 4/2/2014 11:13 AM, Laszlo Hanyecz wrote:
>> Maybe this site serves up exploits selectively?  I'm guessing most people 
>> are getting the 'domain for sale' but whoever is the target probably gets 
>> something special?
>>
>> On Apr 2, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Kevin  wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/2/2014 9:08 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
 At first, this is a poor choice of URL.

 But it really looks like a phishing attempt that no one should visit.


 On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Kevin  wrote:
> I've sat on this for some time after starting this.  I have forked this
> from bitcoin core and am working on a secure tax "mode" for bitcoin.  It
> is written in Autoit.  I know I know, scripting language alert!  I would
> like people to look at:
> http://www.githubb.com/bitcoin/bitcoin
> Look at it, and let's have an open dialog about it.  I want to know the
> good, the bad, and the ugly!
>
> --
> Kevin
>
>
> --
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> Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development

>>> As far as choice of U R L, it may be a poor choice but I did this
>>> because I wanted it connected with the core.  As far as fishing it
>>> certainly is not that!  This is a serious project.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ___
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>>> Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
> I tell you that this is a serious project for bitcoin.  You are free to
> assume the worst.  After all, I did say the good the bad and the ugly
> would come out of this.  I happen to be a big believer in bitcoin and I
> feel this project holds water.  If you disagree, that's fine.
>
>
> --
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>
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Okay, time to bring up bitcoin/bitcoin

[Laszlo Hanyecz]

www.githubb.com resolves to addresses announced by AS53665

Some basic info about AS53665 can be seen at http://bgp.he.net/AS53665
They probably have a dedi or VPS at Cogent.  They didn't even create an IRR 
record for their AS or their only route.

Let's see what google has to say about malware from AS53665 (TL;DR - it's a 
malware site)
http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=AS:53665

-Laszlo



On Apr 2, 2014, at 3:30 PM, Kevin  wrote:

> On 4/2/2014 11:13 AM, Laszlo Hanyecz wrote:
>> Maybe this site serves up exploits selectively?  I'm guessing most people 
>> are getting the 'domain for sale' but whoever is the target probably gets 
>> something special?
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Kevin  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 4/2/2014 9:08 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
 At first, this is a poor choice of URL.
 
 But it really looks like a phishing attempt that no one should visit.
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Kevin  wrote:
> I've sat on this for some time after starting this.  I have forked this
> from bitcoin core and am working on a secure tax "mode" for bitcoin.  It
> is written in Autoit.  I know I know, scripting language alert!  I would
> like people to look at:
> http://www.githubb.com/bitcoin/bitcoin
> Look at it, and let's have an open dialog about it.  I want to know the
> good, the bad, and the ugly!
> 
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>>> As far as choice of U R L, it may be a poor choice but I did this
>>> because I wanted it connected with the core.  As far as fishing it
>>> certainly is not that!  This is a serious project.
>>> 
>>> 
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> I tell you that this is a serious project for bitcoin.  You are free to 
> assume the worst.  After all, I did say the good the bad and the ugly would 
> come out of this.  I happen to be a big believer in bitcoin and I feel this 
> project holds water.  If you disagree, that's fine.
> 
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Okay, time to bring up bitcoin/bitcoin

[Laszlo Hanyecz]

Maybe this site serves up exploits selectively?  I'm guessing most people are 
getting the 'domain for sale' but whoever is the target probably gets something 
special? 

On Apr 2, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Kevin  wrote:

> On 4/2/2014 9:08 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> At first, this is a poor choice of URL.
>> 
>> But it really looks like a phishing attempt that no one should visit.
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Kevin  wrote:
>>> I've sat on this for some time after starting this.  I have forked this
>>> from bitcoin core and am working on a secure tax "mode" for bitcoin.  It
>>> is written in Autoit.  I know I know, scripting language alert!  I would
>>> like people to look at:
>>> http://www.githubb.com/bitcoin/bitcoin
>>> Look at it, and let's have an open dialog about it.  I want to know the
>>> good, the bad, and the ugly!
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
> As far as choice of U R L, it may be a poor choice but I did this 
> because I wanted it connected with the core.  As far as fishing it 
> certainly is not that!  This is a serious project.
> 
> 
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Okay, time to bring up bitcoin/bitcoin

[Kevin]

On 4/2/2014 11:13 AM, Laszlo Hanyecz wrote:
> Maybe this site serves up exploits selectively?  I'm guessing most people are 
> getting the 'domain for sale' but whoever is the target probably gets 
> something special?
>
> On Apr 2, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Kevin  wrote:
>
>> On 4/2/2014 9:08 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>>> At first, this is a poor choice of URL.
>>>
>>> But it really looks like a phishing attempt that no one should visit.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Kevin  wrote:
 I've sat on this for some time after starting this.  I have forked this
 from bitcoin core and am working on a secure tax "mode" for bitcoin.  It
 is written in Autoit.  I know I know, scripting language alert!  I would
 like people to look at:
 http://www.githubb.com/bitcoin/bitcoin
 Look at it, and let's have an open dialog about it.  I want to know the
 good, the bad, and the ugly!

 --
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>>>
>> As far as choice of U R L, it may be a poor choice but I did this
>> because I wanted it connected with the core.  As far as fishing it
>> certainly is not that!  This is a serious project.
>>
>>
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>>
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I tell you that this is a serious project for bitcoin.  You are free to 
assume the worst.  After all, I did say the good the bad and the ugly 
would come out of this.  I happen to be a big believer in bitcoin and I 
feel this project holds water.  If you disagree, that's fine.


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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Okay, time to bring up bitcoin/bitcoin

[Kevin]

On 4/2/2014 9:08 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> At first, this is a poor choice of URL.
>
> But it really looks like a phishing attempt that no one should visit.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Kevin  wrote:
>> I've sat on this for some time after starting this.  I have forked this
>> from bitcoin core and am working on a secure tax "mode" for bitcoin.  It
>> is written in Autoit.  I know I know, scripting language alert!  I would
>> like people to look at:
>> http://www.githubb.com/bitcoin/bitcoin
>> Look at it, and let's have an open dialog about it.  I want to know the
>> good, the bad, and the ugly!
>>
>> --
>> Kevin
>>
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>
As far as choice of U R L, it may be a poor choice but I did this 
because I wanted it connected with the core.  As far as fishing it 
certainly is not that!  This is a serious project.


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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Okay, time to bring up bitcoin/bitcoin

[Jeff Garzik]

At first, this is a poor choice of URL.

But it really looks like a phishing attempt that no one should visit.


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Kevin  wrote:
> I've sat on this for some time after starting this.  I have forked this
> from bitcoin core and am working on a secure tax "mode" for bitcoin.  It
> is written in Autoit.  I know I know, scripting language alert!  I would
> like people to look at:
> http://www.githubb.com/bitcoin/bitcoin
> Look at it, and let's have an open dialog about it.  I want to know the
> good, the bad, and the ugly!
>
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>
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BitPay, Inc.  https://bitpay.com/

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[Bitcoin-development] Detailed gitian build guide

[Wladimir]

Hello all,

I'm working on a detailed guide on how to install and set up a Debian VM
for gitian building. As this guide can be used on any operating system that
has VirtualBox, hopefully this will make it easier for people to get
started with gitian builds.

See https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/3994

Rendered version is here:
https://github.com/laanwj/bitcoin/blob/2014_04_debian_gitian_build_doc/doc/gitian-building.md

Comments and patches are welcome.
If you bump into problems while following the guide please let me know.

Wladimir
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] secure assigned bitcoin address directory

[Mike Hearn]

Hi Daryl,

I think the reason nobody has done that is that BIP70 isn't really that
much work. It's basically just certs inside a protobuf, with a bit of extra
data. I'm not sure yet another way to do the same thing is worth much.


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:59 AM, Daryl Banttari  wrote:

> Chris,
>
> Thank you for taking the time to look at my proposal.
>
> 1) pay to addresses are not fixed - ie you can have a different address
>> for each transaction (which is why BIP70 is necessary to allow per
>> transaction addresses via https.)
>>
>
> This is certainly true for a "published" address; however a new address
> (and URL) can be generated for each one-off peer-to-peer transaction.
>  However, I'd expect that most of the time this use case will be handed by
> BIP70.  Still, this could allow someone to implement a authenticated,
> non-repudiable payment request without having to go through the hassle of a
> full BIP70 implementation.
>
>
>> 2) unless you are already aware of the  public key of the signature, you
>> do not know if the signature is made by the person you think it is supposed
>> to be from. See recent concern over fake key for Gavin Andresen. Ie a
>> signature can always be verified with a valid public key, the question is
>> was it the real person's key. That is what WoT tried to resolve with
>> so-called "signing parties", nowadays keys posted to a public forum by a
>> known user, but it's not a standard and not ideal.
>>
>
> My proposal leverages the existing SSL key system (yes, PKI), so there is
> a reasonable expectation that if the signature verifies, it came from the
> party indicated on the cert.  While SSL (and the PKI system underpinning
> it) have its faults, the example you highlighted was specifically a problem
> with WoT, not PKI.  Can a compromised web server cause payments to be made
> to the wrong party?  Of course-- but that's already true.  And that's not
> something BIP70 solves (or attempts to solve) either.
>
> (To explain [better than I could] why I feel PKI is a pragmatic solution,
> I defer to Mike Hearn 's article:
> https://medium.com/bitcoin-security-functionality/b64cf5912aa7)
>
> --Daryl
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