Re: [Bitcoin-development] Suggestion: allow receivers to pay optional fee for transactions without fees
This is good news! Thank you very much Ben for the answer. On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:52:39 -0800 Ben Davenport wrote: > You can create a transaction which spends the output to yourself, attaching > a fee to that transaction. In order for miners to grab the transaction fee > on that transaction, they would have to also mine the original transaction. > Likely, you'd have to do this by hand, but software could be written to > simplify doing it. No protocol changes needed. > > Ben > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Dâniel Fraga wrote: > > > Someone sent me a very small donation (0.00121 BTC) without > > paying fees. I don't know who sent it and I know this type of > > transaction are usually rejected by miners. Take a look at it below: > > > > https://imageshack.com/i/ngv5g8j > > > > Even with the a low probability of confirmation, I > > was hoping that after a few days it could be included in a block, but > > Blockchain.info simply removed it (I know the sender sent from a > > Blockchain.info wallet, because he added a note): > > > > > > https://blockchain.info/pt/tx/3cde47ee3979a46b36bd61bdb0caf9c11dea58ac99f17fb17b95728766de70e0 > > > > As you can see now it shows as "Transaction not found". > > > > My suggestion is: it would be nice if the receiver could have a > > chance to pay the fee when the sender didn't pay any fee. For example, > > I could pay a fee of 0.0001 BTC and receive 0.00121 BTC. In the end I'd > > have 0.00111 BTC. Better than nothing. > > > > Would it be technically possible to do that or it would be too > > much trouble to change the protocol to allow the receiver to pay an > > optional fee? > > > > Ps: I'm not a programmer, but if the receiver could > > optionally "attach" some fee to the transaction, even if he/she didn't > > sent the transaction, this could be solved. Bitcoin-qt could even warn > > the receiver he received a transaction without fee and if he wants > > faster confirmation he could pay a fee. > > > > Ps2: if this is a silly suggestion, just ignore it. I tried on > > Bitcointalk, but nobody answered. > > > > -- > > Linux 3.12.0: One Giant Leap for Frogkind > > http://www.youtube.com/DanielFragaBR > > http://mcxnow.com > > Bitcoin: 12H6661yoLDUZaYPdah6urZS5WiXwTAUgL > > > > > > > > > > -- > > CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. > > Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For > > Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. > > Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. > > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > ___ > > Bitcoin-development mailing list > > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > > > -- Linux 3.12.0: One Giant Leap for Frogkind http://www.youtube.com/DanielFragaBR http://mcxnow.com Bitcoin: 12H6661yoLDUZaYPdah6urZS5WiXwTAUgL -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Bitcoin-development mailing list Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
[Bitcoin-development] Suggestion: allow receivers to pay optional fee for transactions without fees
Someone sent me a very small donation (0.00121 BTC) without paying fees. I don't know who sent it and I know this type of transaction are usually rejected by miners. Take a look at it below: https://imageshack.com/i/ngv5g8j Even with the a low probability of confirmation, I was hoping that after a few days it could be included in a block, but Blockchain.info simply removed it (I know the sender sent from a Blockchain.info wallet, because he added a note): https://blockchain.info/pt/tx/3cde47ee3979a46b36bd61bdb0caf9c11dea58ac99f17fb17b95728766de70e0 As you can see now it shows as "Transaction not found". My suggestion is: it would be nice if the receiver could have a chance to pay the fee when the sender didn't pay any fee. For example, I could pay a fee of 0.0001 BTC and receive 0.00121 BTC. In the end I'd have 0.00111 BTC. Better than nothing. Would it be technically possible to do that or it would be too much trouble to change the protocol to allow the receiver to pay an optional fee? Ps: I'm not a programmer, but if the receiver could optionally "attach" some fee to the transaction, even if he/she didn't sent the transaction, this could be solved. Bitcoin-qt could even warn the receiver he received a transaction without fee and if he wants faster confirmation he could pay a fee. Ps2: if this is a silly suggestion, just ignore it. I tried on Bitcointalk, but nobody answered. -- Linux 3.12.0: One Giant Leap for Frogkind http://www.youtube.com/DanielFragaBR http://mcxnow.com Bitcoin: 12H6661yoLDUZaYPdah6urZS5WiXwTAUgL -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Bitcoin-development mailing list Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
[Bitcoin-development] Suggestion: easy way to restore wallet.dat backup
I posted this on bitcoin-user, but nobody replied, so I'm trying here. Today, when a user uses bitcoin-qt client, it can make a backup of wallet.dat easily through menu, but when he/she needs to restore this backup, he/she must copy the file to the correct folder and execute "bitcoin-qt -rescan". My suggestion: bitcoin-qt developers could implement an easier way to restore. For example: a option in the File menu "Restore Wallet" or "Recover Wallet" where it would show a dialog asking for the backup file and everything would be done automatically (no need to do it manually). If we want everybody to use bitcoin, these operations should be as easy as possible. What do you think? -- Linux 3.12.0: One Giant Leap for Frogkind http://www.youtube.com/DanielFragaBR http://mcxnow.com Bitcoin: 12H6661yoLDUZaYPdah6urZS5WiXwTAUgL -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. Download it for free now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Bitcoin-development mailing list Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
