Re: [Bitcoin-development] Random order for clients page

2012-07-10 Thread Stefan Thomas
I wouldn't expect any really important features which don't have complicated compromises attached to them to be omitted from all clients for all that long. True, it's those compromises that people should base their decision on. To make that easier was the motivation for me to suggest feature

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Random order for clients page

2012-07-09 Thread Amir Taaki
: Monday, July 9, 2012 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Random order for clients page On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Amir Taaki zgen...@yahoo.com wrote: Took me a while, but finally got it working. Entries on the clients page are randomly ordered when the page is generated. https

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Random order for clients page

2012-07-09 Thread Stefan Thomas
: Monday, July 9, 2012 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Random order for clients page On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Amir Taaki zgen...@yahoo.com wrote: Took me a while, but finally got it working. Entries on the clients page are randomly ordered when the page is generated. https

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Random order for clients page

2012-07-09 Thread Luke-Jr
FWIW, all this argumenting is why my original suggestion for a Clients list focussed on objective information in alphabetical order. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Random order for clients page

2012-07-09 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Amir Taaki zgen...@yahoo.com wrote: JS randomisation is bad. People shouldn't need JS to view a webpage. JS randomization doesn't imply needing JS to view the page. It implies needing JS to see it in random order. You could also combine it with the server-side

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Random order for clients page

2012-07-09 Thread Alan Reiner
I generally agree with Greg. I don't see anything he's said or done as anti-alt-client. As an alt-client developer, I'm happy to see my client on the main page, but I'm also happy if that clients page is simply an acknowledgement that there's more to the Bitcoin world than just the Bitcoin-Qt

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Random order for clients page

2012-07-09 Thread Nils Schneider
I don't think that's a good idea as it can easily confuse or annoy users when things move around. The ordering should be preserved as much as possible so users can remember where they found a client they liked (e.g. 2nd row, 1st column and screenshot with light and blue colors). Making them search

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Random order for clients page

2012-07-09 Thread Amir Taaki
: Monday, July 9, 2012 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Random order for clients page On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Amir Taaki zgen...@yahoo.com wrote: JS randomisation is bad. People shouldn't need JS to view a webpage. JS randomization doesn't imply needing JS to view the page

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Random order for clients page

2012-07-09 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: If you had authored this as a pull request rather than making the change unilaterally I would have recommended leaving it so the reference client was always first. I also would have suggested that it use JS

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Random order for clients page

2012-07-09 Thread Mike Hearn
I strongly agree, but this is *why* I suggested moving it to the wiki. I recently had to choose an XMPP client and I looked on xmpp.org - after a frustrating experience with their listing [1] Probably because their listing is even more useless than any of the proposals that were presented

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Random order for clients page

2012-07-09 Thread Amir Taaki
-development] Random order for clients page I don't think that's a good idea as it can easily confuse or annoy users when things move around. The ordering should be preserved as much as possible so users can remember where they found a client they liked (e.g. 2nd row, 1st column and screenshot

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Random order for clients page

2012-07-09 Thread Stefan Thomas
I think by users you mean, geeks who understand wiki syntax. The point is to expand the circle of contributors. I'm pretty sure there are more people who can edit a wiki than people who know HTML and how to create a git pull request. :) Inability to agree on columns isn't why the page looks