Re: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else

2013-06-09 Thread elaine_wilson
I don't know if you have picked out your game/scouting camera yet, but I'll tell you what I have. It's Wildview InfraredXtreme, Model STC-TGLX81RNG. You can look at it on their website www.wildviewcam.com. It's waterproof and comes with a long mounting strap. I borrowed my neighbor's last summer

Re: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else

2013-06-08 Thread Michael Smith
This might back up the info I have heard regarding a large ruminant guard animal. Have only one. It is then forced to bond with the flock. Some people think having two or three donkeys or llamas will cause them to herd together and ignore the flock. But my goat breeder lady I spoke of has several

Re: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else

2013-06-08 Thread elaine_wilson
Hi Michael, We have had llamas for the last 3 years and they have done next to nothing to deter the coyotes. We currently have two gelding llamas in a bachelor ram pen, 3 rams, there were four rams but coyotes got in last August and killed and completely ate one of them. Full grown, very healt

Re: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else

2013-06-08 Thread Michael Smith
red dollar investment I ever made. > > > LLRB > HotRod 3% > IV Corps TX > ICVMC > > > - Reply message - > From: "Carol Elkins" > To: > Subject: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else > Date: Thu, Jun 6, 2013 4:35 pm > > >

Re: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else

2013-06-07 Thread Dave Andrus
...@lists.blackbellysheep.info] On Behalf Of Michael Smith Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 10:55 AM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else OK great Rod! this was my next question. No barking, and no jumping on my 2-year old kid or even acting protective and

Re: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else

2013-06-07 Thread Michael Smith
- Reply message - > From: "Carol Elkins" > To: > Subject: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else > Date: Thu, Jun 6, 2013 4:35 pm > > > Michael, in 2008 I had a cougar AND a pack of coyotes kill and eat > five 90-lb ram lambs in one night. All that wa

Re: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else

2013-06-07 Thread rodnas...@gmail.com
ep he gets mad starts Bellari. It was the best hundred dollar investment I ever made. LLRB HotRod 3% IV Corps TX ICVMC - Reply message - From: "Carol Elkins" To: Subject: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else Date: Thu, Jun 6, 2013 4:35 pm Michael, in 2008

Re: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else

2013-06-07 Thread Michael Smith
Carol, thanks for the response. The dog is actually an Aussie shepherd bitch that was never trained to herd. I rescued her from a goat breeder who had in turn rescued her from some druggie guys who abused her. The goat breeder had no proper place to keep her and she was just chained on asphalt in a

Re: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else

2013-06-06 Thread Nancy Johnson
Michael, I'm so sorry you are having these issues and losing sheep. I am extremely attached to all my sheep, but especially the ones who are pets. I live in Maryland and currently, do not have a large animal predator problem, but is light something that will startle them away? Would it be p

Re: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else

2013-06-06 Thread Carol Elkins
Michael, in 2008 I had a cougar AND a pack of coyotes kill and eat five 90-lb ram lambs in one night. All that was left when I found them the next morning were rib cages, five stomachs (drug away from the carcasses), and a few testicles. The cat had gone over the fence; the coyotes dug under. D

Re: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else

2013-06-06 Thread RAY DE SA
keeping them at bay. Ray --- On Thu, 6/6/13, Michael Smith wrote: From: Michael Smith Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Date: Thursday, June 6, 2013, 11:18 AM Ray, wow!  I had no idea. I am surprised then that I have not ha

Re: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else

2013-06-06 Thread Michael Smith
Ray, wow! I had no idea. I am surprised then that I have not had issues before. I have 4--sh foot tall fencing, it's the 2'x4" x 4 foot wire fence roll stuff. Good for keeping lamb and kid heads from getting stuck. Even though I am armed, rifle won't work for me since we are basically a neighborh

Re: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else

2013-06-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 4 Jun 2013, Michael Smith wrote: Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 22:17:43 -0700 From: Michael Smith Reply-To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info To: blackbelly Subject: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else (Moderator--I am re-sending this in plain text.) New to sheep, started

Re: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else

2013-06-06 Thread RAY DE SA
Michael, you didn't mention how tall your fence is. Ours is five feet and I've watched the coyotes clear it with room to spare. They are thick here in central California right now, I shot four this past weekend on our ranch. Have never had any luck trapping them, the rifle works best for me. Go

Re: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else

2013-06-05 Thread elaine_wilson
I also think it was coyotes, especially since your neighbors have been hit, the coyotes just decided it was your turn. They will absolutely be extremely happy to help themselves. We are in north-central TX and we broke down early this year and ended setting up several snare traps along our f

Re: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else

2013-06-05 Thread Michael Smith
iginal Message- > From: blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info > [mailto:blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info] On Behalf Of Michael > Smith > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:18 AM > To: blackbelly > Subject: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else > > (Moder

Re: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else

2013-06-05 Thread Renee'
until you get there. Look very carefully for tracks. Coyote tracks are inside of one another. (the rear foot steps inside of the rear foots track) -Original Message- From: Cecil R Bearden To: blackbelly Sent: Wed, Jun 5, 2013 4:56 am Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, co

Re: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else

2013-06-05 Thread Mark Wintermute
rom: blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info [mailto:blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info] On Behalf Of Michael Smith Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:18 AM To: blackbelly Subject: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else (Moderator--I am re-sending this in plain text.) New to sheep, started in

Re: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else

2013-06-05 Thread Cecil R Bearden
Sounds like coyotes or coyote/dog cross.Look for a trail into your pasture and set a trap. Cecil in OKLa On 6/5/2013 12:17 AM, Michael Smith wrote: (Moderator--I am re-sending this in plain text.) New to sheep, started in 2008 as some of you folks know, and our fencing has been real good. Las

[Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else

2013-06-04 Thread Michael Smith
(Moderator--I am re-sending this in plain text.) New to sheep, started in 2008 as some of you folks know, and our fencing has been real good. Last night I might have underestimated the ability of coyotes to get under a fence-- on our far pasture-- that a cat or rabbit can get under. Came home fr