Re: [Blackbelly] Marley the AB ram died, I suspect pneumonia

2015-09-11 Thread Mark Wintermute
You did not mention how old Marley was.  I suspect he did have some age to
him.  OPP (Ovine Pulmonary Pneumonia) could be involved.  There is no cure
for OPP and it is contagious.  Your vet can assist you on testing.  If it is
OPP you will want to test the rest of your flock.  OPP is not rare here in
the United States.  Rest in peace Marley.

Mark




Marley had gotten skinny lately, and I de-wormed him, probably too late. He
also had a runny nose.  I had not taken the time to have a vet come out and
see him, since a few other sheep also have runny noses, and they always get
over it, and they look strong.

in any case, he died today. I've never dealt with this particular case
before so, sorry for the graphic questions.

When I tried to pick up his head to move him, a large amount of light brown,
very watery liquid came pouring and I mean "pouring" from both nostrils. It
smells. Not super strong, but not pleasant. I tilted his head and I am sure
I got about half a pint. I am sure there's probably another half pint in
there for sure.

I am thinking pneumonia?

If so, I imagine I should get the vet out to hear some lungs on the still
living?

Thanks in advance for your help in this.

I plan to have his skull preserved and glue that broken horn tip back on, so
I can have a nice reminder of him.  His rack was magnificent.


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Re: [Blackbelly] Marley the AB ram died, I suspect pneumonia

2015-09-11 Thread Michael Smith
he was 8 years old. A few of the other sheep do have snotty noses as
well. I'll call the vet.

_Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 4:10 AM, Mark Wintermute
 wrote:
> You did not mention how old Marley was.  I suspect he did have some age to
> him.  OPP (Ovine Pulmonary Pneumonia) could be involved.  There is no cure
> for OPP and it is contagious.  Your vet can assist you on testing.  If it is
> OPP you will want to test the rest of your flock.  OPP is not rare here in
> the United States.  Rest in peace Marley.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> Marley had gotten skinny lately, and I de-wormed him, probably too late. He
> also had a runny nose.  I had not taken the time to have a vet come out and
> see him, since a few other sheep also have runny noses, and they always get
> over it, and they look strong.
>
> in any case, he died today. I've never dealt with this particular case
> before so, sorry for the graphic questions.
>
> When I tried to pick up his head to move him, a large amount of light brown,
> very watery liquid came pouring and I mean "pouring" from both nostrils. It
> smells. Not super strong, but not pleasant. I tilted his head and I am sure
> I got about half a pint. I am sure there's probably another half pint in
> there for sure.
>
> I am thinking pneumonia?
>
> If so, I imagine I should get the vet out to hear some lungs on the still
> living?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help in this.
>
> I plan to have his skull preserved and glue that broken horn tip back on, so
> I can have a nice reminder of him.  His rack was magnificent.
>
>
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Re: [Blackbelly] Marley the AB ram died, I suspect pneumonia

2015-09-11 Thread Cecil R Bearden
Extreme hot weather will cause Pneumonia as quickly as cold.  I think 
the problem is  dust in the air.  It probably is dust Pneumonia.  Makes 
no difference what we call it, it has to be treated aggressively.  I 
would not wait on the vet, I would start giving Combiotic ( Long acting 
Penicillin ) ASAP.  Also, Safeguard liquid wormer will stop the increase 
in infestation that will occur when the animal is stressed.  If you are 
in a drought, then your animals have been trying to graze on very short 
to no grass and will readily pick up a worm load .   I had a young ewe 
that was  down a few years back, she had rapid onset pneumonia, and I 
gave her Combiotic, Baytril, and liquid Safeguard  at 10am.  Vet got 
there at 12noon and started an IV. at 2pm she had diarrhea and was 
passing dead worms.  At 4pm she was up and walking some.  Next morning 
she was in good shape. Rest of flock got Safeguard pellets and another 
dose 2 weeks later.  Ivomec will not work as fast as Safeguard.


Cecil in OKla


On 9/11/2015 9:34 AM, Michael Smith wrote:

he was 8 years old. A few of the other sheep do have snotty noses as
well. I'll call the vet.

_Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 4:10 AM, Mark Wintermute
 wrote:

You did not mention how old Marley was.  I suspect he did have some age to
him.  OPP (Ovine Pulmonary Pneumonia) could be involved.  There is no cure
for OPP and it is contagious.  Your vet can assist you on testing.  If it is
OPP you will want to test the rest of your flock.  OPP is not rare here in
the United States.  Rest in peace Marley.

Mark




Marley had gotten skinny lately, and I de-wormed him, probably too late. He
also had a runny nose.  I had not taken the time to have a vet come out and
see him, since a few other sheep also have runny noses, and they always get
over it, and they look strong.

in any case, he died today. I've never dealt with this particular case
before so, sorry for the graphic questions.

When I tried to pick up his head to move him, a large amount of light brown,
very watery liquid came pouring and I mean "pouring" from both nostrils. It
smells. Not super strong, but not pleasant. I tilted his head and I am sure
I got about half a pint. I am sure there's probably another half pint in
there for sure.

I am thinking pneumonia?

If so, I imagine I should get the vet out to hear some lungs on the still
living?

Thanks in advance for your help in this.

I plan to have his skull preserved and glue that broken horn tip back on, so
I can have a nice reminder of him.  His rack was magnificent.


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