[Blackbelly] lamb does not recognize momma
We just had our first lambing of the season. It was twin ewes born to one of our oldest ewes, probably last night. They are all pasture sheep and are currently on winter rye grass. One of the lambs is behaving typically, the other does not recognize her momma and we could not get her to suckle when we put her on a teat. I gave her 2 oz of colostrum supplement about an hour and a half ago and put her back into a pen with her momma and sibling. Still no recognition by the lamb, even though momma paid much attention to her. We are in South Mississippi with weather in the 50s to 70s. I currently plan on giving her more supplement every several hours, but I do not have much hope for her survival. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance, Jerry ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] lamb does not recognize momma
Jerry, You are going to have to bottle feed her. You certainly aren't going to just let her die! Bring her into the barn and bottle feed her. Nancy Johnson On Dec 17, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Jerry Kirby wrote: We just had our first lambing of the season. It was twin ewes born to one of our oldest ewes, probably last night. They are all pasture sheep and are currently on winter rye grass. One of the lambs is behaving typically, the other does not recognize her momma and we could not get her to suckle when we put her on a teat. I gave her 2 oz of colostrum supplement about an hour and a half ago and put her back into a pen with her momma and sibling. Still no recognition by the lamb, even though momma paid much attention to her. We are in South Mississippi with weather in the 50s to 70s. I currently plan on giving her more supplement every several hours, but I do not have much hope for her survival. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance, Jerry ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] lamb does not recognize momma
Thanks for your reply Nancy. Of course I am not going to let her die, but she surely didn't get any colostrum from momma. Without it she doesn't stand much of a chance does she? I hear bleating from the kitchen just now. Time for some more supplement. Jerry -Original Message- From: Nancy Johnson Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 5:36 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] lamb does not recognize momma Jerry, You are going to have to bottle feed her. You certainly aren't going to just let her die! Bring her into the barn and bottle feed her. Nancy Johnson On Dec 17, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Jerry Kirby wrote: We just had our first lambing of the season. It was twin ewes born to one of our oldest ewes, probably last night. They are all pasture sheep and are currently on winter rye grass. One of the lambs is behaving typically, the other does not recognize her momma and we could not get her to suckle when we put her on a teat. I gave her 2 oz of colostrum supplement about an hour and a half ago and put her back into a pen with her momma and sibling. Still no recognition by the lamb, even though momma paid much attention to her. We are in South Mississippi with weather in the 50s to 70s. I currently plan on giving her more supplement every several hours, but I do not have much hope for her survival. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance, Jerry ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] lamb does not recognize momma
The advice I have gotten from local sheep and goat breeders, is: once they get hungry enough, they will suckle. Feeding them every few hours will probably cause them to imprint on you, first. Colostrum aside, Lambs have, what? About 24 hours worth of food energy they are born with? -MWS Sent from my iPad On Dec 17, 2012, at 3:41 PM, Jerry Kirby blueberryf...@bellsouth.net wrote: Thanks for your reply Nancy. Of course I am not going to let her die, but she surely didn't get any colostrum from momma. Without it she doesn't stand much of a chance does she? I hear bleating from the kitchen just now. Time for some more supplement. Jerry -Original Message- From: Nancy Johnson Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 5:36 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] lamb does not recognize momma Jerry, You are going to have to bottle feed her. You certainly aren't going to just let her die! Bring her into the barn and bottle feed her. Nancy Johnson On Dec 17, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Jerry Kirby wrote: We just had our first lambing of the season. It was twin ewes born to one of our oldest ewes, probably last night. They are all pasture sheep and are currently on winter rye grass. One of the lambs is behaving typically, the other does not recognize her momma and we could not get her to suckle when we put her on a teat. I gave her 2 oz of colostrum supplement about an hour and a half ago and put her back into a pen with her momma and sibling. Still no recognition by the lamb, even though momma paid much attention to her. We are in South Mississippi with weather in the 50s to 70s. I currently plan on giving her more supplement every several hours, but I do not have much hope for her survival. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance, Jerry ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] lamb does not recognize momma
The lamb may have a cold and not be able to smell properly, Can you hear congestion when you listen to it breathe? Try some antibiotics. Also try to milk some from the mother and feed it from the bottle so it gets the right taste/smell, that can help. -Original Message- From: blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info [mailto:blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info] On Behalf Of Nancy Johnson Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 6:36 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] lamb does not recognize momma Jerry, You are going to have to bottle feed her. You certainly aren't going to just let her die! Bring her into the barn and bottle feed her. Nancy Johnson On Dec 17, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Jerry Kirby wrote: We just had our first lambing of the season. It was twin ewes born to one of our oldest ewes, probably last night. They are all pasture sheep and are currently on winter rye grass. One of the lambs is behaving typically, the other does not recognize her momma and we could not get her to suckle when we put her on a teat. I gave her 2 oz of colostrum supplement about an hour and a half ago and put her back into a pen with her momma and sibling. Still no recognition by the lamb, even though momma paid much attention to her. We are in South Mississippi with weather in the 50s to 70s. I currently plan on giving her more supplement every several hours, but I do not have much hope for her survival. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance, Jerry ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] lamb does not recognize momma
If you want to save it, work fast, keep it warm, tube feed if necessary, and remember, a Barbado ewe here in OKlahoma only gives about 20cc of milk per milking. If you follow that book recipe for the 20% per day, you will over feed it and it will die from clostridium toxins or Founder as the old timers call it. Over feeding causes the undigested sugars in the milk to move faster into the back gut where the clostridium bacteria reside and then they immediately overpopulate and create toxins that will kill the lamb. Hopefully the ewes have been vaccinated for tetanus. Clostridium anti bacterin is available, but I have not had much luck with it.I may have over simplified this, but generally that is the way it works. By my experience, however, warm milk will warm up the core temp quicker than anything else. Try about 105 deg. Also you can warm a cold lamb by putting a microwaveable stadium cushion in the bottom of an ice chest under a blanket. Then another blanket on top of the lamb and a heat lamp focused on the towel. Tube feeding with warm milk is one of the fastest ways to warm up one that is just chilled. I always mix colustrum powder with my milk replacer until all my ewes have lambed and the lambs I am feeding are at least 4 weeks old. I just had a bottle baby die this afternoon. Her mother was attacked by something during birth and it killed one lamb and left this one to try to find her mother. We found her in the morning and she could not stand her chest muscles were so weak. I made a vest to hold her legs together for the next 10 days and kept her in a playpen, and she slept with me at my side so I could keep her warm at night. When she could walk, I put a diaper on her and we raised her with our dog in the house. They bonded and she would run to meet cars in the drive like the dog.. It appears that she had a heart problem and it finally gave out. I think that she had her heart damaged during her first 12 hours. She was licking on the salt block many times every day. I can maybe surmise she was trying to raise her blood pressure by eating salt. Cecil in OKla On 12/17/2012 8:14 PM, R. Natasha Baronas wrote: Great post! Another thing is this...if the lamb is hypothermic she must be warmed up before she is fed. It has something to do with how they metabolize their food. I can't remember the specifics but maybe someone else can chime in? Natasha British Columbia, Canada Sent from my iPad Newborn lambs lose a tremendous amount of their body heat if not fed immediately, and can quickly develop hypothermia due to lack of nourishment. Check the newborn lamb's sucking reflex by sticking your index finger in her mouth. This will also help you determine if she is warm or cold. If the inside of her mouth is cold, she is developing hypothermia and must be warmed immediately to get her body temperature up and save her life. Lambs can develop hypothermia even if the weather outside is warm. To warm her up, wrap her in some towels which have been warmed in your oven. Hypothermic lambs will quickly become weak (within a few hours of birth) and may not be able to suck. If you cannot get her to take a bottle, then you must tube feed her to save her life. ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
