Em 12-02-2014 13:59, Gregory H. Nietsky escreveu:
On 02/12/14 18:43, Aleksandar Kuktin wrote:
This does not invalidate your comment, but I think it is always good
when a source code becomes open.
Even if it did, I would not get particularly upset. The comment I made
was pushing the
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:27:50 +0100
From: Armin K. kre...@email.com
To: BLFS Development List blfs-dev@linuxfromscratch.org
Subject: Re: [blfs-dev] News about nouveau and systemd
On 10.2.2014 13:04, Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
I thought it would be worth sharing what I have just read
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:44:23 +0100
From: Armin K. kre...@email.com
To: BLFS Development List blfs-dev@linuxfromscratch.org
Subject: Re: [blfs-dev] News about nouveau and systemd
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[...] not spotting it earlier, I just woke up when I wrote this
response. The rest still
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 07:44:10 -0300
Fernando de Oliveira fam...@yahoo.com.br wrote:
This does not invalidate your comment, but I think it is always good
when a source code becomes open.
Even if it did, I would not get particularly upset. The comment I made
was pushing the envelope.
For me,
On 02/12/14 18:43, Aleksandar Kuktin wrote:
This does not invalidate your comment, but I think it is always good
when a source code becomes open.
Even if it did, I would not get particularly upset. The comment I made
was pushing the envelope.
For me, nouveau does what is expected of it. But
On 02/12/14 18:43, Aleksandar Kuktin wrote:
This does not invalidate your comment, but I think it is always good
when a source code becomes open.
Even if it did, I would not get particularly upset. The comment I made
was pushing the envelope.
For me, nouveau does what is expected of it. But
Em 10-02-2014 20:15, Aleksandar Kuktin escreveu:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:04:24 -0300
Fernando de Oliveira fam...@yahoo.com.br wrote:
I thought it would be worth sharing what I have just read. Perhaps not
everybody knows about it yet.
2. NVIDIA contributes to open-source drivers(nouveau)
On 10.2.2014 13:04, Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
I thought it would be worth sharing what I have just read. Perhaps not
everybody knows about it yet.
1. Debian votes for systemd
https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00338.html
And seems that systemd has won.
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:27:50 +0100
Armin K. kre...@email.com wrote:
On 10.2.2014 13:04, Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
I thought it would be worth sharing what I have just read. Perhaps not
everybody knows about it yet.
1. Debian votes for systemd
On 12.2.2014 5:37, Petr Ovtchenkov wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:27:50 +0100
Armin K. kre...@email.com wrote:
On 10.2.2014 13:04, Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
I thought it would be worth sharing what I have just read. Perhaps not
everybody knows about it yet.
1. Debian votes for systemd
On 02/12/14 15:53, Armin K. wrote:
On 12.2.2014 5:37, Petr Ovtchenkov wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:27:50 +0100
Armin K. kre...@email.com wrote:
On 10.2.2014 13:04, Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
I thought it would be worth sharing what I have just read. Perhaps not
everybody knows about
I thought it would be worth sharing what I have just read. Perhaps not
everybody knows about it yet.
1. Debian votes for systemd
https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00338.html
2. NVIDIA contributes to open-source drivers(nouveau)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:04:24 -0300
From: Fernando de Oliveira fam...@yahoo.com.br
To: BLFS Development List blfs-dev@linuxfromscratch.org
Subject: [blfs-dev] News about nouveau and systemd
I thought it would be worth sharing what I have just read. Perhaps not
everybody knows about it yet
On 02/10/14 14:04, Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
I thought it would be worth sharing what I have just read. Perhaps not
everybody knows about it yet.
1. Debian votes for systemd
https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00338.html
as much as i think systemd is a stinking pile ... for
Em 10-02-2014 09:27, Gregory H. Nietsky escreveu:
On 02/10/14 14:04, Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
I thought it would be worth sharing what I have just read. Perhaps not
everybody knows about it yet.
1. Debian votes for systemd
https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00338.html
as
Em 10-02-2014 10:03, Fernando de Oliveira escreveu:
I am not a systemd user. Like what Bruce did as a great development
step, extracting udev. Wish I could learn how to do it myself. Also,
like that ĸen is keeping alive the eudev alternative.
I forgot to add: like what Armin is doing.
On 2014-02-10 13:04, Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
I thought it would be worth sharing what I have just read. Perhaps not
everybody knows about it yet.
1. Debian votes for systemd
https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00338.html
I just came across an interesting blog article
On 02/10/2014 02:50 PM, Igor Živković wrote:
On 2014-02-10 13:04, Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
I thought it would be worth sharing what I have just read. Perhaps not
everybody knows about it yet.
1. Debian votes for systemd
https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00338.html
I
On 02/10/2014 04:19 PM, Armin K. wrote:
On 02/10/2014 01:27 PM, Gregory H. Nietsky wrote:
On 02/10/14 14:04, Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
I thought it would be worth sharing what I have just read. Perhaps not
everybody knows about it yet.
1. Debian votes for systemd
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:03:35AM -0300, Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
. Also,
like that ĸen is keeping alive the eudev alternative.
Actually, all I'm doing is _using_ eudev - and I haven't moved on
from eudev-1.2 yet (will be trying 1.4 in my forthcoming build).
Don't want anyone to get the
Armin K. wrote:
On 02/10/2014 04:19 PM, Armin K. wrote:
If you watched the video I posted few days ago, Lennart did mention that
there's a learning curve and if you got used to sysvinit you *need* to
learn systemd commands and such. Of course, those who spend
years/decades using shell will
Armin K. wrote:
On 02/10/2014 02:50 PM, Igor Živković wrote:
The actual problem is logind, which can't be run without systemd since
version 205+ due to change in cgroups handling, and that's rather a
kernel requirement, not really enforced by systemd.
The bigger problem than that is that
On 02/10/2014 09:10 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Why does systemd need D-Bus? Because they pulled in login? That's
seems to be a circular argument to me.
If you are creating a server with Apache, php, and mariadb or mysql,
where the only access is via a web browser or ssh, why do you need D-Bus
On 10.2.2014 21:10, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Armin K. wrote:
On 02/10/2014 02:50 PM, Igor Živković wrote:
The actual problem is logind, which can't be run without systemd since
version 205+ due to change in cgroups handling, and that's rather a
kernel requirement, not really enforced by systemd.
The reply below is for linux users/administrators in general, not for
LFS users/administrators.
On 10.2.2014 20:49, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Armin K. wrote:
On 02/10/2014 04:19 PM, Armin K. wrote:
If you watched the video I posted few days ago, Lennart did mention that
there's a learning curve
Armin K. wrote:
The reply below is for linux users/administrators in general, not for
LFS users/administrators.
What systemd does is set up few builtin tasks, like basic stuff that's
expected and required (more or less) to have on any linux os, then parse
unit files which are in fairly
Armin K. wrote:
D-Bus is an IPC and such thing is needed to communicate between
processes.
Not the processes I use.
systemd has lot of utilities and such that need to
communicate with pid 1 (/sbin/init) and other components such as
journald, logind, what not.
So I need to add overhead to
On 10.2.2014 22:37, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Armin K. wrote:
D-Bus is an IPC and such thing is needed to communicate between
processes.
Not the processes I use.
They don't care about small fish in the gigantic ocean. Their goal is to
make something that it's acceptable for *everyone* but that
On 10.2.2014 22:31, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Armin K. wrote:
The reply below is for linux users/administrators in general, not for
LFS users/administrators.
What systemd does is set up few builtin tasks, like basic stuff that's
expected and required (more or less) to have on any linux os, then
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:04:24 -0300
Fernando de Oliveira fam...@yahoo.com.br wrote:
I thought it would be worth sharing what I have just read. Perhaps not
everybody knows about it yet.
2. NVIDIA contributes to open-source drivers(nouveau)
Armin K. wrote:
On 10.2.2014 22:37, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Armin K. wrote:
D-Bus is an IPC and such thing is needed to communicate between
processes.
Not the processes I use.
They don't care about small fish in the gigantic ocean. Their goal is to
make something that it's acceptable for
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:31:07 +0100
Armin K. kre...@email.com wrote:
Isn't the marketing the most important thing today? :P
How would you expect someone to use/buy/know about something without
good marketing strategy?
You are right. Very little sense in software engineering, just modern
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