Re: [blfs-dev] Observations about firefox and xulrunner
On 05/19/2012 04:20 AM, Andrew Benton wrote: On Sat, 19 May 2012 01:01:28 +0100 Bruce Dubbsbruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: For FF, the command tar -xvf firefox-build-dir/dist/firefox-12.0.en-US.linux-$(uname -m).tar.bz2 -C /usr/lib/firefox-12.0 --strip-components=1 hung on me. I already had a /usr/lib/firefox-12.0 directory with items installed from previous builds, but deleting all the files there allowed the instruction ot complete. We may want to do something like: rm -rf /usr/lib/firefox-12.0 mkdir /usr/lib/firefox-12.0 Fair enough, it never occurred to me that people may be reinstalling Firefox. The instructions on the firefox page says: If you have linked against an already installed Xulrunner, as the root user: make -C firefox-build-dir install ... My problem was that I didn't have a firefox-build-dir directory Then you must have altered your mozconfig or make -f client.mk failed. Yes, despite the lack of --enable-application=firefox in the mozconfig file, I still had this directory and the instructions worked as expected. I believe it is defined in one of the deeper config.mk files...it's been a while since I played in the combined source tree. I think we may need to clarify that make -f client.mk is still required but the options # ac_add_options --with-system-libxul # ac_add_options --with-libxul-sdk=/usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-12.0 will bypass most of the long build. Yes, maybe simply provide the full build SBU and a note that this will reduce the build to about 0.3 SBU. The page says Compile Firefox by issuing the following commands: (which include make -f client.mk) and in the mozconfig it says: # The rest of these options have no effect if you're # building against an already installed xulrunner: I don't see why anyone would want to install xulrunner. I don't think the Firefox page should mention xulrunner. It is complicated enough to describe the options without xulrunner, adding a useless xulrunner into the mix doesn't help. Just because you don't see a use for it, doesn't mean the rest of us don't. I am perfectly fine with only Firefox providing our dev tools (In fact, I'd even prefer it at this point), but it does require a fair bit of work to make a *complete* Firefox build (something the book hasn't done since around 2008, maybe earlier) and even then it was a bit messy (see the old OpenOffice system mozilla patches for an example). If you want XUL gone from the book, good luck, but it is possible to replace it's individual functionality with Firefox, and that includes the development libs and the XUL pc files, or at least some method for building plug-ins (so we can hack up the few dependent packages to use firefox-plugin.pc or whatever is needed). Alternately, we just continue to build Firefox against XUL with the option to build stand-alone for those who don't need it. Again, if you can get an --enable-application=firefox build to produce everything that we need, then great! I'm all for it, and may be able to help out after I finish up Java. The only test cases left in the book that I am sure of are OpenJDK and IcedTea-Web, but I believe LibreOffice can still use it too. It would be a shame if we lost mail-merge functionality with thunerbird/seamonkey (and the browser plug-in was actually nice to have on occasion). One popular external example is gecco-media-player, and of course, there are literally thousands of others that I personally happen to find useless, most of which provide working binaries. Also, what is the status of the merged projects now, IOW is TB/SM still building a hacked up XUL for the MozAB or is it all in one again? It would be really nice if we could get down to a ~60MB XUL install and two tiny installs for Firefox and Thunderbird (or somewhere there abouts). FYI, my Firefox build size is 420MB and my install size is 3MB. If TB can build against an installed XUL, then maybe SM could too...any arguments for removing XUL would certainly be killed if that were the case. -- DJ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content, and is believed to be clean. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-dev] Observations about firefox and xulrunner
Andrew Benton wrote: On Sat, 19 May 2012 01:01:28 +0100 Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: The page says Compile Firefox by issuing the following commands: (which include make -f client.mk) and in the mozconfig it says: # The rest of these options have no effect if you're # building against an already installed xulrunner: I don't see why anyone would want to install xulrunner. I don't think the Firefox page should mention xulrunner. It is complicated enough to describe the options without xulrunner, adding a useless xulrunner into the mix doesn't help. Andy, I think the instructions for FF were difficult to get right and that you did a great job. The problem is that some other packages need components from xulrunner that are not installed by FF. Specifically, iced-tea-web needs one of the mozilla-*.pc packages amd they specify xulrunner files. Building from xulrunner means that the user does not have the very long build from both xulrunner and iced tea. The only thing I want to do is put in some text that explains this. I haven't investigated yet, but I suspect that seamonkey and thunderbird would benefit from the same explanations. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
[blfs-dev] Observations about firefox and xulrunner
I can build both Firefox and Xulrunner on my new SVN-20120514 system but had some issues that may or may not be significant. I could not seem to get FF to build with the xulrunner linkage, although each built OK. For FF, the command tar -xvf firefox-build-dir/dist/firefox-12.0.en-US.linux-$(uname -m).tar.bz2 -C /usr/lib/firefox-12.0 --strip-components=1 hung on me. I already had a /usr/lib/firefox-12.0 directory with items installed from previous builds, but deleting all the files there allowed the instruction ot complete. We may want to do something like: rm -rf /usr/lib/firefox-12.0 mkdir /usr/lib/firefox-12.0 tar -xvf \ firefox-build-dir/dist/firefox-12.0.en-US.linux-$(uname -m).tar.bz2 \ -C /usr/lib/firefox-12.0 --strip-components=1 --- I tried to build xulrunner and use it for firefox, but the instructions in the book are a bit confusing. I built xulrunner by the current instructions (-j1): SBU=25.628 77188 /usr/src/firefox/firefox-12.0.source.tar.bz2 size (75.378 MB) 985768 kilobytes build size (962.664 MB) md5sum : 80c3e5927274de7f181fb5f931ac5fd4 But the files are in: /usr/lib/xulrunner-12.0 /usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-12.0 The instructions on the firefox page says: If you have linked against an already installed Xulrunner, as the root user: make -C firefox-build-dir install ... My problem was that I didn't have a firefox-build-dir directory or a /usr/lib/firefox-12.0/application.ini. I think we may need to clarify that make -f client.mk is still required but the options # ac_add_options --with-system-libxul # ac_add_options --with-libxul-sdk=/usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-12.0 will bypass most of the long build. -- I tried to run ff over ssh, but it died. That is probably because my X server is fairly old -- well really old (6.8.2 from 2005). :) On the new system, FF started and ran fine. - When I started FF, I looked at Help-About. Since I was using twm, I couldn't close that window! There is no close button for 'About' and twm doesn't have a window close function that I could find. This isn't a BLFS issue, but I thought it was worthy of comment. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-dev] Observations about firefox and xulrunner
--- Em sex, 18/5/12, Bruce Dubbs escreveu: De: Bruce Dubbs Assunto: [blfs-dev] Observations about firefox and xulrunner Para: BLFS Development List Data: Sexta-feira, 18 de Maio de 2012, 20:41 I can build both Firefox and Xulrunner on my new SVN-20120514 system but had some issues that may or may not be significant. [...] For FF, the command tar -xvf firefox-build-dir/dist/firefox-12.0.en-US.linux-$(uname -m).tar.bz2 -C /usr/lib/firefox-12.0 --strip-components=1 hung on me. I already had a /usr/lib/firefox-12.0 directory with items installed from previous builds, but deleting all the files there allowed the instruction ot complete. We may want to do something like: Same with me. I script now to test the directories and remove when necessary. [...] My problem was that I didn't have a firefox-build-dir directory or a Again, the same happened to me and also with xulrunner, now the scripts tests and remove when needed. I think we may need to clarify that make -f client.mk is still required but the options # ac_add_options --with-system-libxul # ac_add_options --with-libxul-sdk=/usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-12.0 will bypass most of the long build. [..] On the new system, FF started and ran fine. I understand FF linked to xulrunner? - When I started FF, I looked at Help-About. Since I was using twm, I couldn't close that window! There is no close button for 'About' and twm doesn't have a window close function that I could find. This isn't a BLFS issue, but I thought it was worthy of comment. Perhaps you know, but you can exit with Ctrl-Q or Exit (or Quit, I have Sair, in pt-BR) in Firefox or File menu (depending on using or not Menu Bar in FF) []s, Fernando -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-dev] Observations about firefox and xulrunner
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: --- Em sex, 18/5/12, Bruce Dubbs escreveu: De: Bruce Dubbs Assunto: [blfs-dev] Observations about firefox and xulrunner Para: BLFS Development List Data: Sexta-feira, 18 de Maio de 2012, 20:41 I can build both Firefox and Xulrunner on my new SVN-20120514 system but had some issues that may or may not be significant. [...] For FF, the command tar -xvf firefox-build-dir/dist/firefox-12.0.en-US.linux-$(uname -m).tar.bz2 -C /usr/lib/firefox-12.0 --strip-components=1 hung on me. I already had a /usr/lib/firefox-12.0 directory with items installed from previous builds, but deleting all the files there allowed the instruction ot complete. We may want to do something like: Same with me. I script now to test the directories and remove when necessary. It's good to have confirmation. We probably need to put this in the book. [...] My problem was that I didn't have a firefox-build-dir directory or a Again, the same happened to me and also with xulrunner, now the scripts tests and remove when needed. I think we may need to clarify that make -f client.mk is still required but the options # ac_add_options --with-system-libxul # ac_add_options --with-libxul-sdk=/usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-12.0 will bypass most of the long build. [..] On the new system, FF started and ran fine. I understand FF linked to xulrunner? Yes, it is the same code. I need to investigate a little more, but we need a littel more explanation here. - When I started FF, I looked at Help-About. Since I was using twm, I couldn't close that window! There is no close button for 'About' and twm doesn't have a window close function that I could find. This isn't a BLFS issue, but I thought it was worthy of comment. Perhaps you know, but you can exit with Ctrl-Q or Exit (or Quit, I have Sair, in pt-BR) in Firefox or File menu (depending on using or not Menu Bar in FF) I think this is a twm issue, but FF should handle it too. Ctrl-Q does not work for the splash screen. There is no menu either. It shouldn't be an issue for most window managers. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-dev] Observations about firefox and xulrunner
On 05/18/2012 06:41 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: When I started FF, I looked at Help-About. Since I was using twm, I couldn't close that window! There is no close button for 'About' and twm doesn't have a window close function that I could find. This isn't a BLFS issue, but I thought it was worthy of comment. Yes, the old Ctrl+Shift+W went away it seems. Keyboard shortcuts for special windows such as downloads and bookmarks still toggle correctly though. Wonder why they did that. -- DJ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content, and is believed to be clean. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
