Re: [blfs-dev] Adding a note to xorg page

2014-08-24 Thread Armin K.
On 08/24/2014 06:07 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Armin K. wrote: On 08/24/2014 03:52 AM, Christopher Gregory wrote: Hello, I think that it would be a good idea to add to the XORG section that the packages should be installed in published order from the top of the xorg section through the

[blfs-dev] Man Pages.

2014-08-24 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
I was trying to fix man pages for IcedTea-Web, and discovered the following: $ ls /usr/man/man* /usr/man/man1: autoexpect.1 doxywizard.1 jasper.1multixterm.1 unzipsfx.1 zipinfo.1 cryptdir.1expect.1 jiv.1 passmass.1xkibitz.1 zipnote.1 decryptdir.1 funzip.1

Re: [blfs-dev] Man Pages.

2014-08-24 Thread Armin K.
On 08/24/2014 03:40 PM, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: I was trying to fix man pages for IcedTea-Web, and discovered the following: $ ls /usr/man/man* /usr/man/man1: autoexpect.1 doxywizard.1 jasper.1multixterm.1 unzipsfx.1 zipinfo.1 cryptdir.1expect.1 jiv.1 passmass.1

[blfs-dev] Is it time to retire Xulrunner and WebKitGTK+1.10.x?

2014-08-24 Thread Armin K.
Hi everyone, Fernando has asked me to start a discussion here first. With icedtea-web not being dependant on latest versions of xulrunner but npapi-sdk, this leaves no package that really needs Xulrunner besides Firefox itself. Note that there's a reference in Totem page, but it stopped using

Re: [blfs-dev] Adding a note to xorg page

2014-08-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 08/24/2014 06:07 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Armin K. wrote: On 08/24/2014 03:52 AM, Christopher Gregory wrote: We do have http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/introduction/unpacking.html. Take a look at the section 'Dependencies'. We could add a comment that the

Re: [blfs-dev] Is it time to retire Xulrunner and WebKitGTK+1.10.x?

2014-08-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: Hi everyone, Fernando has asked me to start a discussion here first. With icedtea-web not being dependant on latest versions of xulrunner but npapi-sdk, this leaves no package that really needs Xulrunner besides Firefox itself. Note that there's a reference in Totem page, but

Re: [blfs-dev] Is it time to retire Xulrunner and WebKitGTK+1.10.x?

2014-08-24 Thread Armin K.
On 08/24/2014 07:38 PM, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: On 24-08-2014 12:24, Armin K. wrote: Hi everyone, Fernando has asked me to start a discussion here first. With icedtea-web not being dependant on latest versions of xulrunner but npapi-sdk, this leaves no package that really needs

Re: [blfs-dev] Is it time to retire Xulrunner and WebKitGTK+1.10.x?

2014-08-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 12:42:46PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Armin K. wrote: Hi everyone, Fernando has asked me to start a discussion here first. With icedtea-web not being dependant on latest versions of xulrunner but npapi-sdk, this leaves no package that really needs Xulrunner besides

Re: [blfs-dev] Is it time to retire Xulrunner and WebKitGTK+1.10.x?

2014-08-24 Thread Ragnar Thomsen
On Sunday 24 August 2014 12:42:46 Bruce Dubbs wrote: In a related topic, I'd also like to see gstreamer-0.10 removed. As far as I can tell, the only active packages that use it are pidgin (optional) and phonon-backend-gstreamer (required). We need to keep an eye on phonon and if they update,

Re: [blfs-dev] Is it time to retire Xulrunner and WebKitGTK+1.10.x?

2014-08-24 Thread Ragnar Thomsen
On Sunday 24 August 2014 17:24:34 Armin K. wrote: So the actual question is as the title says: Is it time to retire it? Nuke it... Sincerely, Ragnar -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above

[blfs-dev] Ghostscript headers

2014-08-24 Thread Armin K.
Hi, Just built Ghostscript using BLFS instructions and I noticed the following command: install -v -m644 base/*.h /usr/include/ghostscript The explanation says: install -v -m644 base/*.h... : Some packages (ImageMagick is one) need the Ghostscript interface headers in place to link to the

Re: [blfs-dev] Is it time to retire Xulrunner and WebKitGTK+1.10.x?

2014-08-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ragnar Thomsen wrote: On Sunday 24 August 2014 12:42:46 Bruce Dubbs wrote: In a related topic, I'd also like to see gstreamer-0.10 removed. As far as I can tell, the only active packages that use it are pidgin (optional) and phonon-backend-gstreamer (required). We need to keep an eye on

Re: [blfs-dev] Is it time to retire Xulrunner and WebKitGTK+1.10.x?

2014-08-24 Thread blfs-dev
In a related topic, I'd also like to see gstreamer-0.10 removed. As far as I can tell, the only active packages that use it are pidgin (optional) and phonon-backend-gstreamer (required). We need to keep an eye on phonon and if they update, then we can remove what should be a redundant

[blfs-dev] Sendmail issues

2014-08-24 Thread Armin K.
Hi again, Building sendmail packages and I hit an issue. Namely, the newaliases -v command seems to hang (or takes forever to complete), rendering my init scripts (well, systemd units) unusable. Does anyone else experience this? I'm still in favor of archiving the package. For now, I can mark it

Re: [blfs-dev] Is it time to retire Xulrunner and WebKitGTK+1.10.x?

2014-08-24 Thread Ragnar Thomsen
On Sunday 24 August 2014 16:00:47 Bruce Dubbs wrote: From what I can tell, nothing in BLFS uses phonon-backend-gstreamer directly except phonon itself. If we dropped it, would there be any practical impact? Is there something that someone might want that's not available in the vlc backend?

Re: [blfs-dev] Is it time to retire Xulrunner and WebKitGTK+1.10.x?

2014-08-24 Thread Armin K.
On 08/24/2014 07:42 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Armin K. wrote: Hi everyone, Fernando has asked me to start a discussion here first. With icedtea-web not being dependant on latest versions of xulrunner but npapi-sdk, this leaves no package that really needs Xulrunner besides Firefox itself.

Re: [blfs-dev] Is it time to retire Xulrunner and WebKitGTK+1.10.x?

2014-08-24 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
On 24-08-2014 19:43, Armin K. wrote: Midori build done. I haven't noticed any issues when built against GTK+ 2 version of webkitgtk-2.4.2. Attached is the screenshot of my testing VM, with midori showing about:version running in a xterm/twm environment (don't ask). With these two out of

Re: [blfs-dev] Sendmail issues

2014-08-24 Thread akhiezer
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 00:24:44 +0200 From: Armin K. kre...@email.com To: BLFS Development List blfs-dev@lists.linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [blfs-dev] Sendmail issues Building sendmail packages and I hit an issue. Namely, the newaliases -v command seems to hang (or takes forever to

Re: [blfs-dev] Is it time to retire Xulrunner and WebKitGTK+1.10.x?

2014-08-24 Thread Armin K.
On 08/25/2014 01:31 AM, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: On 24-08-2014 19:43, Armin K. wrote: Midori build done. I haven't noticed any issues when built against GTK+ 2 version of webkitgtk-2.4.2. Attached is the screenshot of my testing VM, with midori showing about:version running in a

Re: [blfs-dev] Sendmail issues

2014-08-24 Thread Armin K.
On 08/25/2014 01:36 AM, akhiezer wrote: Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 00:24:44 +0200 From: Armin K. kre...@email.com To: BLFS Development List blfs-dev@lists.linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [blfs-dev] Sendmail issues Building sendmail packages and I hit an issue. Namely, the newaliases -v

[blfs-dev] Apache-Ant and Junit configuration

2014-08-24 Thread Armin K.
Hello, My first time building BLFS Java related packages, just for testing and stuff. I did however notice that, unlike with OpenJDK/IcedTea, there are no instructions by default to preserve environment variables for Apache-Ant (ANT_HOME and PATH) and JUnit (JAVA_CLASSPATH) in a system profile.d

Re: [blfs-dev] Sendmail issues

2014-08-24 Thread akhiezer
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 01:55:17 +0200 From: Armin K. kre...@email.com To: BLFS Development List blfs-dev@lists.linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [blfs-dev] Sendmail issues Building sendmail packages and I hit an issue. Namely, the newaliases -v command seems to hang (or takes forever to

Re: [blfs-dev] Is it time to retire Xulrunner and WebKitGTK+1.10.x?

2014-08-24 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
On 24-08-2014 20:43, Armin K. wrote: On 08/25/2014 01:31 AM, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: OK. Just to be sure: does this Midori play flash? With that confirmed, I am agreeing with all packages discussed today to be archive. I don't have flash in my VM. However, I have just built GNASH, so

Re: [blfs-dev] Apache-Ant and Junit configuration

2014-08-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: Hello, My first time building BLFS Java related packages, just for testing and stuff. I did however notice that, unlike with OpenJDK/IcedTea, there are no instructions by default to preserve environment variables for Apache-Ant (ANT_HOME and PATH) and JUnit (JAVA_CLASSPATH) in

Re: [blfs-dev] Apache-Ant and Junit configuration

2014-08-24 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
On 24-08-2014 20:57, Armin K. wrote: Hello, My first time building BLFS Java related packages, just for testing and stuff. I did however notice that, unlike with OpenJDK/IcedTea, there are no instructions by default to preserve environment variables for Apache-Ant (ANT_HOME and PATH) and

Re: [blfs-dev] Is it time to retire Xulrunner and WebKitGTK+1.10.x?

2014-08-24 Thread Armin K.
On 08/25/2014 02:18 AM, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: On 24-08-2014 20:43, Armin K. wrote: On 08/25/2014 01:31 AM, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: OK. Just to be sure: does this Midori play flash? With that confirmed, I am agreeing with all packages discussed today to be archive. I don't

Re: [blfs-dev] Is it time to retire Xulrunner and WebKitGTK+1.10.x?

2014-08-24 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
On 24-08-2014 21:39, Armin K. wrote: On 08/25/2014 02:18 AM, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: On 24-08-2014 20:43, Armin K. wrote: On 08/25/2014 01:31 AM, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: OK. Just to be sure: does this Midori play flash? With that confirmed, I am agreeing with all packages discussed

Re: [blfs-dev] Sendmail issues

2014-08-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: The original mail was written when manually running newaliases -v (as part of the instructions, even before installing the systemd unit) hung. As for the resolver issues, It's a virtual machine and systemd-networkd takes care of bringing up the network (which is confirmed since

[blfs-dev] javaws.png

2014-08-24 Thread Armin K.
The command (which by the way shouldn't contain because it's the last one in the block): install -v -Dm0644 javaws.png /usr/share/pixmaps/javaws.png from latest OpenJDK instructions fails for me because it can't find javaws.png file. The thing is, there doesn't seem to be such file in any by

Re: [blfs-dev] javaws.png

2014-08-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: The command (which by the way shouldn't contain because it's the last one in the block): install -v -Dm0644 javaws.png /usr/share/pixmaps/javaws.png from latest OpenJDK instructions fails for me because it can't find javaws.png file. The thing is, there doesn't seem to be

Re: [blfs-dev] javaws.png

2014-08-24 Thread Armin K.
On 08/25/2014 03:10 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Armin K. wrote: The command (which by the way shouldn't contain because it's the last one in the block): install -v -Dm0644 javaws.png /usr/share/pixmaps/javaws.png from latest OpenJDK instructions fails for me because it can't find javaws.png

Re: [blfs-dev] javaws.png

2014-08-24 Thread Armin K.
On 08/25/2014 03:10 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Armin K. wrote: The command (which by the way shouldn't contain because it's the last one in the block): install -v -Dm0644 javaws.png /usr/share/pixmaps/javaws.png from latest OpenJDK instructions fails for me because it can't find javaws.png

Re: [blfs-dev] javaws.png

2014-08-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 08/25/2014 03:10 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Armin K. wrote: The command (which by the way shouldn't contain because it's the last one in the block): install -v -Dm0644 javaws.png /usr/share/pixmaps/javaws.png from latest OpenJDK instructions fails for me because it can't