Re: [Blind-Computing] PayPal Account Request
Parham: The short and direct answer to this request is its not permitted by US law to do what you are proposing here. Any US citizen getting caught would be prosecuted and found guilty, would spend who knows how many years behind bars helping out someone they don't even know. Its not going to fly telling the judge, I don't know who he is? Anyone even thinking of doing such a thing better think again. With the advances of law enforcement technology, it would be so easy to trace this type of unlawful transaction. And you never know who's even reading this list who would be duty bound to report this to the proper law officials. With all that said, case closed and lets move on to what this list is all about. Reese Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] PayPal Account Request
Sorry my friend but this message is a waste of time since Mr. Parham has been banned from this list for soliciting illegal activities. The guidelines are very clear on this point. David Ferrin Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Reese re...@shilohstravel.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] PayPal Account Request Parham: The short and direct answer to this request is its not permitted by US law to do what you are proposing here. Any US citizen getting caught would be prosecuted and found guilty, would spend who knows how many years behind bars helping out someone they don't even know. Its not going to fly telling the judge, I don't know who he is? Anyone even thinking of doing such a thing better think again. With the advances of law enforcement technology, it would be so easy to trace this type of unlawful transaction. And you never know who's even reading this list who would be duty bound to report this to the proper law officials. With all that said, case closed and lets move on to what this list is all about. Reese Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
[Blind-Computing] PayPal Account Request
Hello there, First of all, let me say that no matter how I looked, I didn't find the moderators' email address to run this email by them before sending it to the list, so I request, for the sake of the moderators, and for my sake, and to prevent any bans/probations/etc, please send your answers off-list to me. My email address and contact information, as always, is in the signiture of the email. I am sending this email to this list because I'm not part of any mailing lists that has as many long-time internet users. Moderators can feel free to put me on probation, if the rules tell them to do so. (I'm aware of the frustration violation of the rules makes them feel) Do to United States' liking towards sanctions (no matter if they include the population of the country or not), I have been unable to create a PayPal account and interact with others through money, and hence, I have been called everything during my six years in the internet. Having no respect towards people that create programs, putting their time and energy on it, cracker, and stingy are the best, and most polite things I have received from the developers, not to mention the... ah, less polite and more severe ones. So, I thought of creating a PayPal account with the help of someone that lives outside Iran (the country I live in), or using an account they do not use at all. I have already found websites in Iran that convert PayPal dollars to Iranian rials, but strangely (and rather unsurprisingly), no one has the absolute ability to create and maintain an account (because no one has a bank account in United States, or a creditcard outside of Iran, and as you know, the proof of your bankaccount/creditcard is needed to create a PayPal account). Hence, this is what I thought of doing: Having someone create a PayPal account for me in any way they feel comfortable, and giving me the information to sign in/use the account. I will get the money into my account with the help of Iranian PayPal-money buyers/sellers, so I wouldn't need any real creditcard to back me up. So, all I need is a legal PayPal account to use - that's all. Is anyone able to answer my cries of frustration for help? I'm not sending this email to say that I deserve pitty, if that's what you're thinking. I'm just saying that, I'm tired of using cracks. I'm tired of waiting for a crack to come out, and then every time I start the program, I'd think, What if I could help the developer, even though the program costs five dollars?. I can't buy any books from Amazon. Can't get most programs through the respective websites. Can't sell anything to anyone. I know, it doesn't sound like a luxury to be able to send and receive money through the internet to those who are able to, but believe me, it's better than six years of frustration and being called names. Thank you, and sorry for this long email. Be well, Parham Doustdar --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] PayPal Account Request
Some days it's just not worth checking my morning email. I took a lot of time to write out the signature trailer for both lists along with the guidelines and it makes me so upset when members have no idea at all what any of those documents contain in them. In the signature of each and every message posted to this list as well as the JAWS Users List included is the contact information for the moderating team. Also I might add that up on the home page for this domain are links that will lead you to pages containing information for subscribing to both lists and also on those pages here again is the contact information for the list moderators. So do not tell me that a person tried very hard to find out this information when it comes across their desk top some times 40 or 50 times a day. I'm going to have breakfast right now without taking any further action as I am far to upset. If some other member of the team takes any action at all that is up to them and I'll support it, but right now I'm going to step away before I do something rash. I am the only person with the ability to make these lists go away and although I'm not going to do that some mornings I feel like it. David Ferrin Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:53 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] PayPal Account Request Hello there, First of all, let me say that no matter how I looked, I didn't find the moderators' email address to run this email by them before sending it to the list, so I request, for the sake of the moderators, and for my sake, and to prevent any bans/probations/etc, please send your answers off-list to me. My email address and contact information, as always, is in the signiture of the email. I am sending this email to this list because I'm not part of any mailing lists that has as many long-time internet users. Moderators can feel free to put me on probation, if the rules tell them to do so. (I'm aware of the frustration violation of the rules makes them feel) Do to United States' liking towards sanctions (no matter if they include the population of the country or not), I have been unable to create a PayPal account and interact with others through money, and hence, I have been called everything during my six years in the internet. Having no respect towards people that create programs, putting their time and energy on it, cracker, and stingy are the best, and most polite things I have received from the developers, not to mention the... ah, less polite and more severe ones. So, I thought of creating a PayPal account with the help of someone that lives outside Iran (the country I live in), or using an account they do not use at all. I have already found websites in Iran that convert PayPal dollars to Iranian rials, but strangely (and rather unsurprisingly), no one has the absolute ability to create and maintain an account (because no one has a bank account in United States, or a creditcard outside of Iran, and as you know, the proof of your bankaccount/creditcard is needed to create a PayPal account). Hence, this is what I thought of doing: Having someone create a PayPal account for me in any way they feel comfortable, and giving me the information to sign in/use the account. I will get the money into my account with the help of Iranian PayPal-money buyers/sellers, so I wouldn't need any real creditcard to back me up. So, all I need is a legal PayPal account to use - that's all. Is anyone able to answer my cries of frustration for help? I'm not sending this email to say that I deserve pitty, if that's what you're thinking. I'm just saying that, I'm tired of using cracks. I'm tired of waiting for a crack to come out, and then every time I start the program, I'd think, What if I could help the developer, even though the program costs five dollars?. I can't buy any books from Amazon. Can't get most programs through the respective websites. Can't sell anything to anyone. I know, it doesn't sound like a luxury to be able to send and receive money through the internet to those who are able to, but believe me, it's better than six years of frustration and being called names. Thank you, and sorry for this long email. Be well, Parham Doustdar --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use
Re: [Blind-Computing] PayPal Account Request
Yes, if I had kept the emails previously sent to me through this email, I would've had the email, I agree. But then again, I'm not going to make something that is done wrong made right.. It was, as I said before, my own shortcoming. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] PayPal Account Request Some days it's just not worth checking my morning email. I took a lot of time to write out the signature trailer for both lists along with the guidelines and it makes me so upset when members have no idea at all what any of those documents contain in them. In the signature of each and every message posted to this list as well as the JAWS Users List included is the contact information for the moderating team. Also I might add that up on the home page for this domain are links that will lead you to pages containing information for subscribing to both lists and also on those pages here again is the contact information for the list moderators. So do not tell me that a person tried very hard to find out this information when it comes across their desk top some times 40 or 50 times a day. I'm going to have breakfast right now without taking any further action as I am far to upset. If some other member of the team takes any action at all that is up to them and I'll support it, but right now I'm going to step away before I do something rash. I am the only person with the ability to make these lists go away and although I'm not going to do that some mornings I feel like it. David Ferrin Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:53 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] PayPal Account Request Hello there, First of all, let me say that no matter how I looked, I didn't find the moderators' email address to run this email by them before sending it to the list, so I request, for the sake of the moderators, and for my sake, and to prevent any bans/probations/etc, please send your answers off-list to me. My email address and contact information, as always, is in the signiture of the email. I am sending this email to this list because I'm not part of any mailing lists that has as many long-time internet users. Moderators can feel free to put me on probation, if the rules tell them to do so. (I'm aware of the frustration violation of the rules makes them feel) Do to United States' liking towards sanctions (no matter if they include the population of the country or not), I have been unable to create a PayPal account and interact with others through money, and hence, I have been called everything during my six years in the internet. Having no respect towards people that create programs, putting their time and energy on it, cracker, and stingy are the best, and most polite things I have received from the developers, not to mention the... ah, less polite and more severe ones. So, I thought of creating a PayPal account with the help of someone that lives outside Iran (the country I live in), or using an account they do not use at all. I have already found websites in Iran that convert PayPal dollars to Iranian rials, but strangely (and rather unsurprisingly), no one has the absolute ability to create and maintain an account (because no one has a bank account in United States, or a creditcard outside of Iran, and as you know, the proof of your bankaccount/creditcard is needed to create a PayPal account). Hence, this is what I thought of doing: Having someone create a PayPal account for me in any way they feel comfortable, and giving me the information to sign in/use the account. I will get the money into my account with the help of Iranian PayPal-money buyers/sellers, so I wouldn't need any real creditcard to back me up. So, all I need is a legal PayPal account to use - that's all. Is anyone able to answer my cries of frustration for help? I'm not sending this email to say that I deserve pitty, if that's what you're thinking. I'm just saying that, I'm tired of using cracks. I'm tired of waiting for a crack to come out, and then every time I start the program, I'd think, What if I could help the developer, even though the program costs five dollars?. I can't buy any books from Amazon. Can't get most programs through the respective websites. Can't sell anything to anyone. I know, it doesn't sound like a luxury to be able to send and receive money through the internet to those who are able to, but believe me, it's better than six years of frustration and being called names. Thank you, and sorry for this long email. Be well, Parham Doustdar --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com
Re: [Blind-Computing] PayPal Account Request
Hi David, I just wanted to thank you for all your hard work on the lists. I have received much help from them over the years. I feel bad when the lists are abused. As far as getting a PayPal account for a person in a foreign country goes. It is quite possible that this is an action that would be viewed quite unfavorably by the United States government. I believe Iran is on the restricted nations list. So, I hope everyone will stay with in the laws of their nation and we can all go back to discussing computer things. God bless, Mark Would you like someone to join you in prayer? Why not post your request on the Pendleton Redeemer Prayer list at: http://groups.google.com/group/pendletonredeemerprayer - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 5:40 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] PayPal Account Request Some days it's just not worth checking my morning email. I took a lot of time to write out the signature trailer for both lists along with the guidelines and it makes me so upset when members have no idea at all what any of those documents contain in them. In the signature of each and every message posted to this list as well as the JAWS Users List included is the contact information for the moderating team. Also I might add that up on the home page for this domain are links that will lead you to pages containing information for subscribing to both lists and also on those pages here again is the contact information for the list moderators. So do not tell me that a person tried very hard to find out this information when it comes across their desk top some times 40 or 50 times a day. I'm going to have breakfast right now without taking any further action as I am far to upset. If some other member of the team takes any action at all that is up to them and I'll support it, but right now I'm going to step away before I do something rash. I am the only person with the ability to make these lists go away and although I'm not going to do that some mornings I feel like it. David Ferrin Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:53 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] PayPal Account Request Hello there, First of all, let me say that no matter how I looked, I didn't find the moderators' email address to run this email by them before sending it to the list, so I request, for the sake of the moderators, and for my sake, and to prevent any bans/probations/etc, please send your answers off-list to me. My email address and contact information, as always, is in the signiture of the email. I am sending this email to this list because I'm not part of any mailing lists that has as many long-time internet users. Moderators can feel free to put me on probation, if the rules tell them to do so. (I'm aware of the frustration violation of the rules makes them feel) Do to United States' liking towards sanctions (no matter if they include the population of the country or not), I have been unable to create a PayPal account and interact with others through money, and hence, I have been called everything during my six years in the internet. Having no respect towards people that create programs, putting their time and energy on it, cracker, and stingy are the best, and most polite things I have received from the developers, not to mention the... ah, less polite and more severe ones. So, I thought of creating a PayPal account with the help of someone that lives outside Iran (the country I live in), or using an account they do not use at all. I have already found websites in Iran that convert PayPal dollars to Iranian rials, but strangely (and rather unsurprisingly), no one has the absolute ability to create and maintain an account (because no one has a bank account in United States, or a creditcard outside of Iran, and as you know, the proof of your bankaccount/creditcard is needed to create a PayPal account). Hence, this is what I thought of doing: Having someone create a PayPal account for me in any way they feel comfortable, and giving me the information to sign in/use the account. I will get the money into my account with the help of Iranian PayPal-money buyers/sellers, so I wouldn't need any real creditcard to back me up. So, all I need is a legal PayPal account to use - that's all. Is anyone able to answer my cries of frustration for help? I'm not sending this email to say that I deserve pitty, if that's what you're thinking. I'm just saying that, I'm tired of using cracks. I'm tired of waiting for a crack to come out, and then every time I start the program, I'd think, What if I could help the developer, even though the program costs five dollars?. I can't buy any books from Amazon. Can't get most programs through the respective websites. Can't sell anything
Re: [Blind-Computing] PayPal Account Request
Thank you for your vote of encouragement. The fact is as I see them people use forums such as this for reasons unrelated to the guidelines of the list but in their eyes it is a means to reach a huge amount of individuals with minimal effort. They must know or at least some of them should that once they cross that bridge there is no turning back. I feel bad that in such cases it behooves me to come down on such a person like a thunder cloud but that is the only way it seems to manage such a large operation as this. This list is rapidly approaching 300 subscribers and the jaws list is knocking on the door of 500 believe it or not, and if you allow such things to go unmonitored and left to run wild then chaos will soon result. Oh BTW he won't be back at all under the address he was using. It is not normally in my nature to be so hard on a person but that is the job I agreed to do and I must be doing something right or there would not be so many members on here. Thank you for reading my long and some what ranting speech but like I said so long as I own this domain and have the people to work with that help me run these lists there will be order. David Ferrin Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Mark torgersonena...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] PayPal Account Request Hi David, I just wanted to thank you for all your hard work on the lists. I have received much help from them over the years. I feel bad when the lists are abused. As far as getting a PayPal account for a person in a foreign country goes. It is quite possible that this is an action that would be viewed quite unfavorably by the United States government. I believe Iran is on the restricted nations list. So, I hope everyone will stay with in the laws of their nation and we can all go back to discussing computer things. God bless, Mark Would you like someone to join you in prayer? Why not post your request on the Pendleton Redeemer Prayer list at: http://groups.google.com/group/pendletonredeemerprayer - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 5:40 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] PayPal Account Request Some days it's just not worth checking my morning email. I took a lot of time to write out the signature trailer for both lists along with the guidelines and it makes me so upset when members have no idea at all what any of those documents contain in them. In the signature of each and every message posted to this list as well as the JAWS Users List included is the contact information for the moderating team. Also I might add that up on the home page for this domain are links that will lead you to pages containing information for subscribing to both lists and also on those pages here again is the contact information for the list moderators. So do not tell me that a person tried very hard to find out this information when it comes across their desk top some times 40 or 50 times a day. I'm going to have breakfast right now without taking any further action as I am far to upset. If some other member of the team takes any action at all that is up to them and I'll support it, but right now I'm going to step away before I do something rash. I am the only person with the ability to make these lists go away and although I'm not going to do that some mornings I feel like it. David Ferrin Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:53 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] PayPal Account Request Hello there, First of all, let me say that no matter how I looked, I didn't find the moderators' email address to run this email by them before sending it to the list, so I request, for the sake of the moderators, and for my sake, and to prevent any bans/probations/etc, please send your answers off-list to me. My email address and contact information, as always, is in the signiture of the email. I am sending this email to this list because I'm not part of any mailing lists that has as many long-time internet users. Moderators can feel free to put me on probation, if the rules tell them to do so. (I'm aware of the frustration violation of the rules makes them feel) Do to United States' liking towards sanctions (no matter if they include the population of the country or not), I have been unable to create a PayPal account and interact with others through money, and hence, I have been called everything during my six years in the internet. Having no respect towards people that create programs, putting their time and energy on it, cracker, and stingy are the best, and most polite things I have received from the developers, not to mention the... ah, less
