[Bloat] Bufferbloat and Internet gaming

2011-03-12 Thread Dave Täht
John Carmack (of armadillo aerospace[2] and idsoftware fame) gave me permission to repost from this private email... John Carmack jo...@idsoftware.com writes: I would really like to help, but I don't know of a good resource for you [for 3D visualizations of bufferbloat]. If I could clone

Re: [Bloat] Measuring latency-under-load consistently

2011-03-12 Thread Fred Baker
At the risk of sounding like someone mentioning a product, let me mention a product. This assumes, of course, that you're using Cisco equipment. But it allows you to measure delay (how long does it take to get from here to there), jitter (first derivative of delay/dt), and packet loss.

Re: [Bloat] Measuring latency-under-load consistently

2011-03-12 Thread Jonathan Morton
On 13 Mar, 2011, at 12:21 am, Fred Baker wrote: At the risk of sounding like someone mentioning a product, let me mention a product. This assumes, of course, that you're using Cisco equipment. But it allows you to measure delay (how long does it take to get from here to there), jitter

Re: [Bloat] Measuring latency-under-load consistently

2011-03-12 Thread Jonathan Morton
On 13 Mar, 2011, at 12:23 am, richard wrote: However, large TCP windows do consume RAM in both server and client, and with a sufficient number of simultaneous clients, that could theoretically cause trouble. Constraining TCP windows to near the actual BDP is more efficient all around.

[Bloat] Thoughts on Stochastic Fair Blue

2011-03-12 Thread Jonathan Morton
Having read some more documents and code, I have some extra insight into SFB that might prove helpful. Note that I haven't actually tried it yet, but it looks good anyway. In control-systems parlance, this is effectively a multichannel I-type controller, where RED is a single-channel P-type