Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat on 4G Connexion

Luca Muscariello writes: > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 11:34 AM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen > wrote: > >> Luca Muscariello writes: >> >> > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 2:27 PM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Rich Brown writes: >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 23, 2019, at 5:54 AM,> >>

Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat on 4G Connexion

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 11:34 AM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > Luca Muscariello writes: > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 2:27 PM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen > > wrote: > > > >> Rich Brown writes: > >> > >> >> On Oct 23, 2019, at 5:54 AM, >> erik.tarald...@telenor.com>> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> If you

Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat on 4G Connexion

> On 24 Oct, 2019, at 2:51 pm, > wrote: > >> The key thing in both BQL and AQL is that instead of treating all packets the >> same, you account for how long it will take to transmit them. >> >> In Wifi, your transmission rate can vary by a factor of 1000x (1Mb to over >> 1Gb >> per second),

Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat on 4G Connexion

writes: >> The key thing in both BQL and AQL is that instead of treating all packets the >> same, you account for how long it will take to transmit them. >> >> In Wifi, your transmission rate can vary by a factor of 1000x (1Mb to over >> 1Gb >> per second), so just counting bytes as BQL does is

Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat on 4G Connexion

> The key thing in both BQL and AQL is that instead of treating all packets the > same, you account for how long it will take to transmit them. > > In Wifi, your transmission rate can vary by a factor of 1000x (1Mb to over 1Gb > per second), so just counting bytes as BQL does is no longer good

Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat on 4G Connexion

Luca Muscariello writes: > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 2:27 PM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen > wrote: > >> Rich Brown writes: >> >> >> On Oct 23, 2019, at 5:54 AM,> erik.tarald...@telenor.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> If you could influence the 4G vendors to de-bloat their equipment, >> >> would you recommend

Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat on 4G Connexion

On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 2:27 PM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > Rich Brown writes: > > >> On Oct 23, 2019, at 5:54 AM, erik.tarald...@telenor.com>> wrote: > >> > >> If you could influence the 4G vendors to de-bloat their equipment, > >> would you recommend BQL, L4S or codel/cake? > > > > I've

Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat on 4G Connexion

On Wed, 23 Oct 2019, Rich Brown wrote: I only have a 30,000 foot understanding of this work, but it seems the use of AQL (Airtime Queue Limit) maps better onto the vagaries of 4G/5G radio transmissions than BQL. Specifically, having a measurement of the actual time it takes to transmit a

Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat on 4G Connexion

Rich Brown writes: >> On Oct 23, 2019, at 5:54 AM,> > wrote: >> >> If you could influence the 4G vendors to de-bloat their equipment, >> would you recommend BQL, L4S or codel/cake? > > I've been enjoying this discussion and wonder whether the work going > on

Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat on 4G Connexion

> On Oct 23, 2019, at 5:54 AM, > wrote: > > If you could influence the 4G vendors to de-bloat their equipment, would you > recommend BQL, L4S or codel/cake? I've been enjoying this discussion and wonder whether the work going on in the make-wifi-fast

Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat on 4G Connexion

> On 23 Oct, 2019, at 10:28 am, > wrote: > > If you could influence the 4G vendors to de-bloat their equipment, would you > recommend BQL, L4S or codel/cake? BQL is a good start, but needs to go with something else to actually fix the problem. All it does is move (most of) the queue out of

Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat on 4G Connexion

Regards Sebastian > > > -Erik > > > > Fra: Bloat på vegne av Jonathan Morton > > Sendt: 22. oktober 2019 23:02 > Til: Guillaume ROBIER > Kopi: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > Emne: Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat on 4G

Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat on 4G Connexion

Emne: Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat on 4G Connexion On 11 Oct, 2019, at 5:56 pm, Guillaume ROBIER wrote: I am new to this mailing list and I discovered the bufferbloat in December 2018. I work on 4G routers and the bufferbloat is very present on this type of link (4G). I contact you today to find

Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat on 4G Connexion

: Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat on 4G Connexion > On 11 Oct, 2019, at 5:56 pm, Guillaume ROBIER > wrote: > > I am new to this mailing list and I discovered the bufferbloat in December > 2018. I work on 4G routers and the bufferbloat is very present on this type > of link (4G). I

Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat on 4G Connexion

> On 11 Oct, 2019, at 5:56 pm, Guillaume ROBIER > wrote: > > I am new to this mailing list and I discovered the bufferbloat in December > 2018. I work on 4G routers and the bufferbloat is very present on this type > of link (4G). I contact you today to find out if people have experimented >

[Bloat] Bufferbloat on 4G Connexion

Hello, I am new to this mailing list and I discovered the bufferbloat in December 2018. I work on 4G routers and the bufferbloat is very present on this type of link (4G). I contact you today to find out if people have experimented with solutions on this type of link or have configuration