Re: [Blue-obelisk] Re: Re: Relocation of mailing list to Google Groups + rant
At 12:32 30/05/2007, Noel O'Boyle wrote: The other point you raised was regarding the wiki. This will soon be moving to SF, and I think that we will be implementing better spam filtering (thanks go to Martin Walker for continually reverting all that spam). I don't think we should allow anonymous edits on a wiki that acts as a website for the blue obelisk; others may disagree. I recently rearranged information on the wiki, and I'd appreciate any more specific feedback you could give me regarding the layout. I tend to agree about anonymity - agreed this works in many cases for WP - but WP has many more people who help to create models of democracy and are vigilant against spam. We currently have fewer resources. SPAM has destroyed many wikis - including the CML one - and the only answers are constant reverting or some barrier to publishing - or maybe both (since spam seems to occur even on protected wikis I know it isn't the same metric but my blog has received 50,000 spams. Without the AKISMET filter I would have to have closed it down. I don't think the same exists for wikis. So I am fairly hardline on this. If someone changes the atomic weight of something on the wiki it is valuable to know who they are. Peter Murray-Rust Unilever Centre for Molecular Sciences Informatics University of Cambridge, Lensfield Road, Cambridge CB2 1EW, UK +44-1223-763069 ___ Blue-obelisk mailing list Blue-obelisk@hardly.cubic.uni-koeln.de http://hardly.cubic.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/blue-obelisk
Re: [Blue-obelisk] Re: Re: Relocation of mailing list to Google Groups + rant
Am Mittwoch, den 30.05.2007, 12:32 +0100 schrieb Noel O'Boyle: [..] The other point you raised was regarding the wiki. This will soon be moving to SF, and I think that we will be implementing better spam filtering (thanks go to Martin Walker for continually reverting all that spam). I don't think we should allow anonymous edits on a wiki that acts as a website for the blue obelisk; others may disagree. I recently rearranged information on the wiki, and I'd appreciate any more specific feedback you could give me regarding the layout. Short question: As Tobias mentioned, the Wiki did not have much content. There is also not an editorial team like CDK has/had. Many interesting stuff was posted via RSS and collected via a planet-software. So why not simply using the planet as homepage of blue-obelisk and collecting our mailing list via RSS too? We would just need some search functionality or omething similar. Is that possible? Or would you favour a Wiki? I mean, we were collecting data and such stuff. It shouldn't be a problem to create documentation that can be used to explain the one or the other collection of data/scripts/whatever, so we don't need a Wiki to collect information there (I mean, which chemical search possibilities do Wikis offer?). Just some thoughts going through my mind. Regards, Daniel ___ Blue-obelisk mailing list Blue-obelisk@hardly.cubic.uni-koeln.de http://hardly.cubic.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/blue-obelisk