Re: [Blue-obelisk] Re: Re: Relocation of mailing list to Google Groups + rant

2007-05-30 Thread peter murray-rust

At 12:32 30/05/2007, Noel O'Boyle wrote:


The other point you raised was regarding the wiki. This will soon be
moving to SF, and I think that we will be implementing better spam
filtering (thanks go to Martin Walker for continually reverting all
that spam). I don't think we should allow anonymous edits on a wiki
that acts as a website for the blue obelisk; others may disagree. I
recently rearranged information on the wiki, and I'd appreciate any
more specific feedback you could give me regarding the layout.


I tend to agree about anonymity - agreed this works in many cases for 
WP - but WP has many more people who help to create models of 
democracy and are vigilant against spam. We currently have fewer 
resources. SPAM has destroyed many wikis - including the CML one - 
and the only answers are constant reverting or some barrier to 
publishing - or maybe both (since spam seems to occur even on protected wikis


I know it isn't the same metric but my blog has received 50,000 
spams. Without the AKISMET filter I would have to have closed it 
down. I don't think the same exists for wikis.


So I am fairly hardline on this. If someone changes the atomic weight 
of something on the wiki it is valuable to know who they are.

Peter Murray-Rust
Unilever Centre for Molecular Sciences Informatics
University of Cambridge,
Lensfield Road,  Cambridge CB2 1EW, UK
+44-1223-763069

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Re: [Blue-obelisk] Re: Re: Relocation of mailing list to Google Groups + rant

2007-05-30 Thread Daniel Leidert
Am Mittwoch, den 30.05.2007, 12:32 +0100 schrieb Noel O'Boyle:

[..]
 The other point you raised was regarding the wiki. This will soon be
 moving to SF, and I think that we will be implementing better spam
 filtering (thanks go to Martin Walker for continually reverting all
 that spam). I don't think we should allow anonymous edits on a wiki
 that acts as a website for the blue obelisk; others may disagree. I
 recently rearranged information on the wiki, and I'd appreciate any
 more specific feedback you could give me regarding the layout.

Short question: As Tobias mentioned, the Wiki did not have much content.
There is also not an editorial team like CDK has/had. Many interesting
stuff was posted via RSS and collected via a planet-software. So why
not simply using the planet as homepage of blue-obelisk and collecting
our mailing list via RSS too? We would just need some search
functionality or omething similar. Is that possible? Or would you favour
a Wiki? I mean, we were collecting data and such stuff. It shouldn't be
a problem to create documentation that can be used to explain the one or
the other collection of data/scripts/whatever, so we don't need a Wiki
to collect information there (I mean, which chemical search
possibilities do Wikis offer?).

Just some thoughts going through my mind.

Regards, Daniel

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