Re: [steering-discuss] contracting a lawyer for the foundation's set-up process

2011-08-12 Thread Eliane Domingos de Sousa
Good night! I understand that is a decision of the SC, but I will give my opinion. Totally agree Best regards. Eliane Domingos de Sousa gtalk/skype: elianedomingos twitter: eliane_domingos identica/facebook: elianedomingos Em 12-08-2011 22:31, Varun Mittal escreveu: +1 Best Regards Varun

Re: [steering-discuss] contracting a lawyer for the foundation's set-up process

2011-08-12 Thread Varun Mittal
+1 Best Regards Varun On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 6:04 AM, Thorsten Behrens < t...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > Florian Effenberger wrote: > > In order to have legal advice for the process, which might take a > > few weeks, I'd like to ask the steering committee to approve a sum > > of 3.000,- €

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-12 Thread Simon Phipps
On 12 Aug 2011, at 10:02, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi, > > Caolan McNamara wrote on 2011-08-11 12:26: >> Alright, swap the logos, default to non TDF one. > > if we do so, are there any objections to my proposed trademark policy change? > Here it is again for convenience: > > old version:

Re: [steering-discuss] contracting a lawyer for the foundation's set-up process

2011-08-12 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Florian Effenberger wrote: > In order to have legal advice for the process, which might take a > few weeks, I'd like to ask the steering committee to approve a sum > of 3.000,- € in total. > +1 - this has my approval. Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h

Re: [steering-discuss] List discussion & purpose

2011-08-12 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
+1. 2011/8/12 Florian Effenberger > +1 :) > > Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-08-12 18:46: > >> Thank you Drew. >> > > -- > Florian Effenberger > Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation > Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 > Skype: floeff | Twitter/Ident

Re: [steering-discuss] List discussion & purpose

2011-08-12 Thread Florian Effenberger
+1 :) Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-08-12 18:46: Thank you Drew. -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to stee

Re: [steering-discuss] List discussion & purpose

2011-08-12 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
2011/8/12 drew > On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 18:08 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote: > > Hi, > > > > drew wrote on 2011-08-12 17:52: > > > Is it exhaustive? > > > > I just checked the mailing list system. There still is the conference > > jury mailing list, where all paper submissions are being sent to

Re: [steering-discuss] List discussion & purpose

2011-08-12 Thread drew
On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 18:08 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi, > > drew wrote on 2011-08-12 17:52: > > Is it exhaustive? > > I just checked the mailing list system. There still is the conference > jury mailing list, where all paper submissions are being sent to. > Everyone had a chance to

Re: [steering-discuss] contracting a lawyer for the foundation's set-up process

2011-08-12 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
I'm not sure if I'm able to vote on this matter. But if so, +1 2011/8/12 David Emmerich Jourdain > +1 > > David > > 2011/8/12 Charles-H. Schulz > > > A lawyer is indispensable I think, and the fees sound reasonnable . +1 > > > > Charles. > > Le 12 août 2011 17:34, "Florian Effenberger" < > > fl

Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots

2011-08-12 Thread Simon Phipps
On 12 Aug 2011, at 14:48, David Nelson wrote: > Hi Florian, > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Florian Effenberger > wrote: >> based on the feedback, this would be my proposal to vote on: > > I suppose the minor corrections below fall in the category of the > "beauty corrections" you mentio

Re: [steering-discuss] contracting a lawyer for the foundation's set-up process

2011-08-12 Thread David Emmerich Jourdain
+1 David 2011/8/12 Charles-H. Schulz > A lawyer is indispensable I think, and the fees sound reasonnable . +1 > > Charles. > Le 12 août 2011 17:34, "Florian Effenberger" < > flo...@documentfoundation.org> > a écrit : > > Hello, > > > > as many of you know, we're right before filing the applicat

Re: [steering-discuss] List discussion & purpose

2011-08-12 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, drew wrote on 2011-08-12 17:52: Is it exhaustive? I just checked the mailing list system. There still is the conference jury mailing list, where all paper submissions are being sent to. Everyone had a chance to join the jury, we made a public call. Jury discussions are not meant to be a

Re: [steering-discuss] contracting a lawyer for the foundation's set-up process

2011-08-12 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 definitely. Regards from Tom :) From: Charles-H. Schulz To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Fri, 12 August, 2011 16:55:51 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] contracting a lawyer for the foundation's set-up process A lawyer is indispensabl

Re: [steering-discuss] contracting a lawyer for the foundation's set-up process

2011-08-12 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I thought that was the purpose of the fund-raising that was a huge success. Proper accountants would have wrapped-up all these extra costs into the amount originally asked for. I kept quiet at the time because we were uncertain about whether that much could be raised. Hindsight is great

Re: [steering-discuss] contracting a lawyer for the foundation's set-up process

2011-08-12 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
A lawyer is indispensable I think, and the fees sound reasonnable . +1 Charles. Le 12 août 2011 17:34, "Florian Effenberger" a écrit : > Hello, > > as many of you know, we're right before filing the application for > legally setting up the Foundation. > > For the process of filing, it is highly a

Re: [steering-discuss] List discussion & purpose

2011-08-12 Thread drew
On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 17:48 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi, > > yep, your list is correct. Is it exhaustive? Tanks, Drew > Some details: > > Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-08-12 16:20: > > > SC private > > Contains of steering committee plus deputies, plus a few people who have >

Re: [steering-discuss] List discussion & purpose

2011-08-12 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, yep, your list is correct. Some details: Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-08-12 16:20: SC private Contains of steering committee plus deputies, plus a few people who have been involved in the discussion of setting up a foundation, even before TDF was born. Recipient list should be re-de

[steering-discuss] contracting a lawyer for the foundation's set-up process

2011-08-12 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, as many of you know, we're right before filing the application for legally setting up the Foundation. For the process of filing, it is highly advisable to have a lawyer assisting us and acting as official point of contact. Not only will some legal topics come up, but also being repres

Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots

2011-08-12 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > +1 > > Possibly omit the middle paragraph. I agree with that. The second paragraph serve no practical purpose. Norbert -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffi

Re: [steering-discuss] List discussion & purpose

2011-08-12 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 Also, allowing threads (such as the one about job-description for marketing contacts) to split out to other, more relevant, lists is great and seems to be working fine. It's inevitable that discussions take place all over the place because there is a lot of energy and excitement i

Re: [steering-discuss] List discussion & purpose

2011-08-12 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
2011/8/12 David Nelson > Hi Florian, > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Florian Effenberger > wrote: > > I think it has been discussed in public rather often that there is a > private > > list where all the steering committee members are on, and that there are > > private phone calls sometimes

Re: [steering-discuss] List discussion & purpose

2011-08-12 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello David, Afaict I list the following ones: SC private AB private Web infrastructure Security Marketing private (for pr drafting and readiness) As I am personally not subscribed to all of them I might have missed one or taken one as private while it is public. Best, Charles. Le 12 août 2011 1

Re: [steering-discuss] List discussion & purpose

2011-08-12 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
2011/8/12 Florian Effenberger > Hi, > > > > I think it has been discussed in public rather often that there is a > private list where all the steering committee members are on, and that there > are private phone calls sometimes. > > We never planned to have things in secret, so sorry if that i

Re: [steering-discuss] List discussion & purpose

2011-08-12 Thread David Nelson
Hi Florian, On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > I think it has been discussed in public rather often that there is a private > list where all the steering committee members are on, and that there are > private phone calls sometimes. > > We never planned to have things in

Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots

2011-08-12 Thread David Nelson
Hi Florian, On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > based on the feedback, this would be my proposal to vote on: I suppose the minor corrections below fall in the category of the "beauty corrections" you mentioned, but the SC's decision might be clearer for some people if

Re: [steering-discuss] List discussion & purpose

2011-08-12 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Paulo de Souza Lima wrote on 2011-08-12 14:09: I do agree to what Charles said, but I have some things to say on that: There should have a public note, somewhere, explaining that private lists do exist and showing the requirements for a member to be accepted in those lists. What I think is

Re: [steering-discuss] List discussion & purpose

2011-08-12 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
2011/8/12 Charles-H. Schulz > Hello, > > 2011/8/12 Florian Effenberger > > To second Florian's point about the private list, and to answer Drew's > requests, it is actually rather simple. There is no decision by principle > taken privately on the private mailing list. In fact the steering-discus

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-12 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
It seems very fine to me!!! Great work!!! 2011/8/12 Florian Effenberger > Hi, > > Caolan McNamara wrote on 2011-08-11 12:26: > >> Alright, swap the logos, default to non TDF one. >> > > if we do so, are there any objections to my proposed trademark policy > change? Here it is again for convenien

Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots

2011-08-12 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
+1 2011/8/12 Tom Davies > Hi :) > +1 > > Possibly omit the middle paragraph. It would leave the statement without > an > explanation but at least it would state what the preference is. > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > From: Florian Effenberger > To: steering

Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots

2011-08-12 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 Possibly omit the middle paragraph. It would leave the statement without an explanation but at least it would state what the preference is. Regards from Tom :) From: Florian Effenberger To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Fri, 12 Augus

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-12 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Caolan McNamara wrote on 2011-08-11 12:26: Alright, swap the logos, default to non TDF one. if we do so, are there any objections to my proposed trademark policy change? Here it is again for convenience: old version: == Proper Form: TDF marks should be used in their exact form, neither

Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots

2011-08-12 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, based on the feedback, this would be my proposal to vote on: == Screenshots for documentation, website and marketing should preferably be taken on GNU/Linux, but may also be taken on any other operating system. The Steering Committee acknowledges that there is a small legal risk involved

Re: [steering-discuss] List discussion & purpose

2011-08-12 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello, 2011/8/12 Florian Effenberger > Hello, > > let me jump in quickly with a few thoughts: > > - The set-up of this list was discussed in one of last year's steering > commitee public conference calls, and if I remember correctly, it was even a > demand by the community, not by the steering c