Re: [board-discuss] Looking forward, not backwards (was: Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online)

2022-01-14 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi Thorsten, On 14/01/2022 16:27, Thorsten Behrens wrote: Paolo Vecchi wrote: So, to conclude, this "distraction" has actually helped the board in dealing with a situation which impaired its freedom to act in a well informed and structured way and created a new situation where, thanks to import

Re: [board-discuss] Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online

2022-01-14 Thread Simon Phipps
Hi Sophie, I appreciate your comment here and (with some fear) have to respond to amplify it. On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 11:14 AM sophi wrote: > > On my point of view, it was not about achieving market dominance but > about solidarity. And TDF has failed here, again on my point of view. > Yes, I

Re: [board-discuss] Charitable activities during the pandemic (was: Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online)

2022-01-14 Thread sophi
Hi Thorsten, Le 14/01/2022 à 16:00, Thorsten Behrens a écrit : > Hi Sophie, > > a bit sad to read your rather disappointed mail - > > sophi wrote: >> I don't read only about products, but about sharing, empowering of >> people, solidarity and creativity, all in the FLOSS spirit. TDF for me >> is

Re: [board-discuss] Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online

2022-01-14 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi Sophie, thank you for reminding us what TDF and its community is all about. It is also great to see that members of TDF team are passionate about what they are doing within TDF for the community. I agree with you that we failed to act. Some of us tried to deliver the information and the pa

[board-discuss] Looking forward, not backwards (was: Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online)

2022-01-14 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Paolo Vecchi wrote: > So, to conclude, this "distraction" has actually helped the board in dealing > with a situation which impaired its freedom to act in a well informed and > structured way and created a new situation where, thanks to important and in > some cases overdue work done by the board d

[board-discuss] Charitable activities during the pandemic (was: Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online)

2022-01-14 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi Sophie, a bit sad to read your rather disappointed mail - sophi wrote: > I don't read only about products, but about sharing, empowering of > people, solidarity and creativity, all in the FLOSS spirit. TDF for me > is not only hosting a product, but has a culture, has a knowledge, has a > lot

Re: [board-discuss] Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online

2022-01-14 Thread sophi
Hi Michael, all, Le 13/01/2022 à 18:44, Michael Meeks a écrit : > Hi Marco, [...] > > I also agree with Thorsten that the stories about achieving > market dominance during the COVID crisis with this approach are > impossibly naive. From a hardware provision perspective alone - being > backed

Re: [board-discuss] Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online

2022-01-14 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi all, I won't comment about the rest of the email as I've already provided plenty of additional information here: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/2022/msg00029.html However, the following comment made by our fellow member of the board needs to be framed correc

Re: [board-discuss] Commercial entity vs community development and distribution

2022-01-14 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Thanks Ilmari ! I seem to have missed that ! Will need to try it out again, and apologies for my erroneous statement in that case. Alex Le 13/01/2022 à 21:08, Ilmari Lauhakangas a écrit : On 13.1.2022 21.56, Michael Meeks wrote: On 13/01/2022 12:35, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Endian-ness f

Re: [board-discuss] Commercial entity vs community development and distribution

2022-01-14 Thread Michael Meeks
On 13/01/2022 20:08, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: On 13.1.2022 21.56, Michael Meeks wrote:  Oh - wow, I didn't know that. Wow - that is awful. That crushed my hopes for a good Firebird based future. Alex: seems the problem existed before Aug 2016, but not anymore. ... 'The problem was fixe