Re: [steering-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] official source code repository for CD distribution[was: DVD and Jewel case design]

2011-01-11 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi guys,

On Sat, 2011-01-08 at 13:25 +0100, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
 No, it is sufficient to provide a link to the code, but this link must 
 be valid for a reasonable time.

It is well worth reading the LGPLv3 in this regard;

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.html

Section 6. covers this - and yes; it should be adequate to point at the
git repositories at:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/

though it is clearly preferable to distribute the source code on the
media as well; since that ends your section 6. liability.

 Due to server capacities I don't know if TDF will be able to provide 
 such continuously reachable links to every version of LibreOffice, but 
 this should be discussed by the SC (CC'ing the SC-discuss list).

Freedesktop has been around for a long time, and I expect it to
continue for the forseeable future.

 For DVD with enough space on the disc it is easier to include the 
 sources IMHO.

Completely agreed.

HTH,

Michael.

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Re: [steering-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] official source code repository for CD distribution[was: DVD and Jewel case design]

2011-01-10 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

Bernhard Dippold wrote on 2011-01-08 13.25:

Due to server capacities I don't know if TDF will be able to provide
such continuously reachable links to every version of LibreOffice, but
this should be discussed by the SC (CC'ing the SC-discuss list).


we will try to, but I second your suggestion to follow the path of the 
LibreOfficeBox: Put everything on the DVD.


Holding all files for all snapshots, betas, RCs and releases require a 
*lot* of space, and I can't make any guarantees to have all this on a 
public server forever. We will also have to archive things locally, I guess.


Florian

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[steering-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] official source code repository for CD distribution[was: DVD and Jewel case design]

2011-01-08 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi Tom,

Tom Davies schrieb:

Hi :)

I think you need to put the original source code on the Cd.


No, it is sufficient to provide a link to the code, but this link must 
be valid for a reasonable time.


Due to server capacities I don't know if TDF will be able to provide 
such continuously reachable links to every version of LibreOffice, but 
this should be discussed by the SC (CC'ing the SC-discuss list).


If we have a reliable external repository for previous versions (don't 
know how long they need to be stored - 3 years?), CDs could link there.


For DVD with enough space on the disc it is easier to include the 
sources IMHO.



 The GPL agreement
allows you and/or the library/school to make a small profit from the sale of the
Cds and to cover costs.


It's LGPL, but this doesn't make a difference, as LGPL refers to GPL.

As far a I know there is no clause in the license that hinders anybody 
to take as much money as wanted for the CDs/DVDs.


But I'd like to see us pointing out, that fair use of LibreOffice 
includes the information about free download from our website, so 
everybody will have the chance to decide how much she is willing to pay.


(And part of the money earned by selling CDs/DVDs could be donated to 
the community...)



 I guess an ideal Cd would have the installers for all
the various platforms along with the source code but you might want to have
different Cds for Windows Mac and possibly Linux.


That depends on the goals of the CDs/DVDs.

I like the approach of LibreOffice-Box (present state at 
http://www.libreofficebox.org/, at the moment only in German) providing 
an ISO with all installers, source code, documentation, extensions and 
artwork (as well as related open source software) on DVD.


But if you want to provide CDs only it might be necessary to divide the 
installers by language or operating system.


Best regards

Bernhard

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