[boinc_dev] Problems with crypt_prog

2014-02-18 Thread Crit Crit

I encountered an error already posted to this mail, but i didn't find an answer,
solution or even reply.

Original post:

Randolph Patterson light.proton at gmail.com
Mon May 9 10:05:30 PDT 2011

Hello, thanx for reading

Im actually trying to configure a BOINC server, by reading many guides such
as the one at the official wiki, and the guide at the debian wiki

But im getting troubles with making the proyect, im getting this error here
*
*
*Setting up server files: generating keys*
*sh: /home/boinc-server/boinc/lib/crypt_prog: not found*
*FATAL ERROR: Command failed: /home/boinc-server/boinc/lib/crypt_prog
-genkey 1024 /var/www/boinc/keys/upload_private
/var/www/boinc/keys/upload_public /dev/null*

Any kind of help will be greatly appreciated.

In my case i'm running on Ubuntu 13.04 on VM. I'm getting:

*sh: /home/boinc-server/boinc/lib/crypt_prog: not found*

*FATAL ERROR: Command failed: /home/boinc-server/boinc/lib/crypt_prog
-genkey 1024

I heard a thing, that it might be caused by missing prerequirements, but I am
unable to track what packed i missed. I used this lists: 1)
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/SoftwarePrereqsUnix and 2)
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/ServerIntro (Debian cookbook part).

.
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Re: [boinc_dev] Problems with crypt_prog

2014-02-18 Thread Steffen Möller
Hi Crit/Randolph,

I cannot recall to have run into this issue myself. This is how it looks for 
us, following
(and improving) the Debian Wiki page:

moeller@twin1a:~ $ dpkg -L boinc-server-maker | grep crypt
/usr/lib/boinc-server-maker/lib/crypt_prog
moeller@twin1a:~ $ dpkg -l boinc-server-maker
ii  boinc-server-maker   7.2.28+dfsg-1exp1 amd64 BOINC server 
applications and data files

Are you running the same version? It should reside in debian/experimental or 
snapshot.debian.org,
so we always have something current when we want it updated for some security 
reason.

From above location crypt_prog is copied to the project root's
subdirectory 'bin', as in 
/var/lib/boinc-server-uppercase-test/test/bin/crypt_prog

Is locate crypt_prog helping to locate the binary? What did you execute when
the error surfaced?

Cheers,

Steffen


 Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Februar 2014 um 09:57 Uhr
 Von: David Anderson da...@ssl.berkeley.edu
 An: boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu
 Betreff: Re: [boinc_dev] Problems with crypt_prog

 Did you do configure/make?
 That builds crypt_prog (and many other programs that you'll need).
 -- David
 
 On 18-Feb-2014 12:52 AM, Crit Crit wrote:
  I encountered an error already posted to this mail, but i didn't find an 
  answer,
  solution or even reply.
 
  Original post:
 
  Randolph Patterson light.proton at gmail.com
  Mon May 9 10:05:30 PDT 2011
 
  Hello, thanx for reading
 
  Im actually trying to configure a BOINC server, by reading many guides such
  as the one at the official wiki, and the guide at the debian wiki
 
  But im getting troubles with making the proyect, im getting this error here
  *
  *
  *Setting up server files: generating keys*
  *sh: /home/boinc-server/boinc/lib/crypt_prog: not found*
  *FATAL ERROR: Command failed: /home/boinc-server/boinc/lib/crypt_prog
  -genkey 1024 /var/www/boinc/keys/upload_private
  /var/www/boinc/keys/upload_public /dev/null*
 
  Any kind of help will be greatly appreciated.
 
  In my case i'm running on Ubuntu 13.04 on VM. I'm getting:
 
  *sh: /home/boinc-server/boinc/lib/crypt_prog: not found*
 
  *FATAL ERROR: Command failed: /home/boinc-server/boinc/lib/crypt_prog
  -genkey 1024
 
  I heard a thing, that it might be caused by missing prerequirements, but I 
  am
  unable to track what packed i missed. I used this lists: 1)
  http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/SoftwarePrereqsUnix and 2)
  http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/ServerIntro (Debian cookbook part).
 
  .
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Re: [boinc_dev] Estimated Time Remaining, frictional reporting ...

2014-02-18 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
There are two different values, rsc_fpops_bound is used for the resource
limit, and rsc_fpops_est is used for the estimated time and progress. So
wanting to avoid 'resource limit exceeded' errors has nothing to do with
providing a good estimate.

El lunes, 17 de febrero de 2014, Richard Haselgrove 
r.haselgr...@btopenworld.com escribió:

 Unfortunately, some projects take the easy cop-out - applying a massive
 rsc_fpops_bound to circumvent resource limit exceeded, instead of resolving
 it properly from first principles.

 I suspect that some of the smaller projects have enough on their plate
 getting their heads round their own scientific research needs, and don't
 have enough time and energy left to switch into computer scientist mode
 and concentrate on the boincification of their application and workflow.



 
  From: Oliver Bock oliver.b...@aei.mpg.de javascript:;
 To: David Anderson da...@ssl.berkeley.edu javascript:;; Rytis
 Slatkevičius ryti...@gmail.com javascript:;
 Cc: BOINC Developers Mailing List boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edujavascript:;
 
 Sent: Monday, 17 February 2014, 9:22
 Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] Estimated Time Remaining, frictional reporting
 ...
 
 
 On 14/02/14 8:30 , David Anderson wrote:
  I'd prefer to figure out why the static estimates are off.
  If an app's jobs are of a size proportional to wu.rsc_fpops_est,
  the static estimates should be almost exact, even for a host's first
 jobs.
 
 The static estimates are often very rough ones because it's sometime not
 that easy to get a handle on accurate ones. In the extreme the estimate
 gets just set in such a way that you don't run into a resource limit
 exceeded issue - so you add at least some headroom. However, even in
 such a case you may know that your app will behave more or less linear.
 This is why I think having the said opt-in flag would be very useful for
 such apps.
 
 
 Cheers,
 Oliver
 
 
 
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Re: [boinc_dev] Problems with crypt_prog

2014-02-18 Thread Jon Sonntag
I don't know what the debian boinc server package has in it so this is just
a guess
When following the BOINC wiki instructions to set it up from scratch, that
problem does not exist. I believe that crypt was separated from the BOINC
library a while back and that there is now a separate libboinc_crypt.a
library.  So, maybe the Debian package only links to boinc and not
boinc_crypt.

Jon



On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 3:53 AM, Steffen Möller steffen_moel...@gmx.dewrote:

 Hi Crit/Randolph,

 I cannot recall to have run into this issue myself. This is how it looks
 for us, following
 (and improving) the Debian Wiki page:

 moeller@twin1a:~ $ dpkg -L boinc-server-maker | grep crypt
 /usr/lib/boinc-server-maker/lib/crypt_prog
 moeller@twin1a:~ $ dpkg -l boinc-server-maker
 ii  boinc-server-maker   7.2.28+dfsg-1exp1 amd64 BOINC
 server applications and data files

 Are you running the same version? It should reside in debian/experimental
 or snapshot.debian.org,
 so we always have something current when we want it updated for some
 security reason.

 From above location crypt_prog is copied to the project root's
 subdirectory 'bin', as in
 /var/lib/boinc-server-uppercase-test/test/bin/crypt_prog

 Is locate crypt_prog helping to locate the binary? What did you execute
 when
 the error surfaced?

 Cheers,

 Steffen


  Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Februar 2014 um 09:57 Uhr
  Von: David Anderson da...@ssl.berkeley.edu
  An: boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu
  Betreff: Re: [boinc_dev] Problems with crypt_prog
 
  Did you do configure/make?
  That builds crypt_prog (and many other programs that you'll need).
  -- David
 
  On 18-Feb-2014 12:52 AM, Crit Crit wrote:
   I encountered an error already posted to this mail, but i didn't find
 an answer,
   solution or even reply.
  
   Original post:
  
   Randolph Patterson light.proton at gmail.com
   Mon May 9 10:05:30 PDT 2011
  
   Hello, thanx for reading
  
   Im actually trying to configure a BOINC server, by reading many guides
 such
   as the one at the official wiki, and the guide at the debian wiki
  
   But im getting troubles with making the proyect, im getting this error
 here
   *
   *
   *Setting up server files: generating keys*
   *sh: /home/boinc-server/boinc/lib/crypt_prog: not found*
   *FATAL ERROR: Command failed: /home/boinc-server/boinc/lib/crypt_prog
   -genkey 1024 /var/www/boinc/keys/upload_private
   /var/www/boinc/keys/upload_public /dev/null*
  
   Any kind of help will be greatly appreciated.
  
   In my case i'm running on Ubuntu 13.04 on VM. I'm getting:
  
   *sh: /home/boinc-server/boinc/lib/crypt_prog: not found*
  
   *FATAL ERROR: Command failed: /home/boinc-server/boinc/lib/crypt_prog
   -genkey 1024
  
   I heard a thing, that it might be caused by missing prerequirements,
 but I am
   unable to track what packed i missed. I used this lists: 1)
   http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/SoftwarePrereqsUnix and 2)
   http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/ServerIntro (Debian cookbook
 part).
  
   .
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Re: [boinc_dev] IDLE detection on Linux

2014-02-18 Thread McLeod, John
I believe that there is a setting that can delay the startup of BOINC tasks for 
X seconds.  If this is true, then we have to be storing the BOINC startup time, 
and we could piggyback off of that somehow.

-Original Message-
From: boinc_dev [mailto:boinc_dev-boun...@ssl.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jussi 
Lahtinen
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 1:10 PM
To: boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu
Subject: [boinc_dev] IDLE detection on Linux

BOINC's IDLE detection on Linux desktops seem to have been always broken
(only the ways have changed). There are various methods for BOINC to get
the IDLE time on Linux, but I have focused on trying to fix the one that
relies on Xserver. It seems that BOINC starts too soon to work properly
with X. Because if you restart BOINC after desktop is fully loaded, it will
work as expected. Correct assumption?

So I tried to prevent BOINC to touch X related code until X is really
ready. See attachment and from the end function named xss_idle. This
doesn't work for reasons I'm not aware. Anyone knows what is the problem
with this method? Or how to fix it?

Alternatively, is there function/method to make BOINC to restart itself? Or
is there method to make BOINC start later? Sleep command doesn't work here
and Upstart etc init scripts doesn't seem to provide needed features.


Jussi
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[boinc_dev] Default local preferences set Use at most to zero gigabytes

2014-02-18 Thread Jord van der Elst
Today I installed BOINC clean on a system that never had a BOINC on it
before. I used 7.2.39 - 64bit, that I had downloaded from
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php

I was testing something about the screen saver flickering, but during
my travels in BOINC, I found that the default value for Use at most is
set to 0.00GB of disk space. See
http://imageshack.com/a/img24/9396/f571.png

This will mean that project servers will refuse to send work to these
systems, until that value has been adjusted to something normal.

Do know that a lot of people will look in BOINC's local preferences,
and exit out through the OK button, not knowing that this will
immediately use the new local preferences, overriding their web
preferences.

Since the Use at most X GB disk space value is a required one, can we
make sure that it can never be zero? Or when it's read as being zero,
that we use the value from the global_prefs.xml file? Or set it by
default to 5Gb for PCs and Macs (NOT on Android!).

-- Jord van der Elst.
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Re: [boinc_dev] IDLE detection on Linux

2014-02-18 Thread Jussi Lahtinen
I'm not sure I understand your point...
No need to piggyback, if you look at that attachment, you'll see that I
already implemented function to determine whether Xserver is loaded or not.
Problem is, when Xserver is finally ready, BOINC should restart itself. Or
BOINC shouldn't start at all until Xserver is ready.


Jussi


On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 9:01 PM, McLeod, John john.mcl...@sap.com wrote:

 I believe that there is a setting that can delay the startup of BOINC
 tasks for X seconds.  If this is true, then we have to be storing the BOINC
 startup time, and we could piggyback off of that somehow.

 -Original Message-
 From: boinc_dev [mailto:boinc_dev-boun...@ssl.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of
 Jussi Lahtinen
 Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 1:10 PM
 To: boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu
 Subject: [boinc_dev] IDLE detection on Linux

 BOINC's IDLE detection on Linux desktops seem to have been always broken
 (only the ways have changed). There are various methods for BOINC to get
 the IDLE time on Linux, but I have focused on trying to fix the one that
 relies on Xserver. It seems that BOINC starts too soon to work properly
 with X. Because if you restart BOINC after desktop is fully loaded, it will
 work as expected. Correct assumption?

 So I tried to prevent BOINC to touch X related code until X is really
 ready. See attachment and from the end function named xss_idle. This
 doesn't work for reasons I'm not aware. Anyone knows what is the problem
 with this method? Or how to fix it?

 Alternatively, is there function/method to make BOINC to restart itself? Or
 is there method to make BOINC start later? Sleep command doesn't work here
 and Upstart etc init scripts doesn't seem to provide needed features.


 Jussi

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[boinc_dev] Applications absolutly not updating % work done ... cleanmobility.now 6.06 of http://qmcathome.org/

2014-02-18 Thread Max Power

Applications absolutely not updating % work done at all :

This month it is cleanmobility.now 6.06 of http://qmcathome.org/

-- 6.05 or 6.04 would update % done at reasonable intervals – by no means 
perfect or linear – but better than nothing

-- Now, nothing but silence

-- Based on the behaviors of 6.05 etc ... one could guesstimate runtime 
completion, but this is not possible

Oddly this extent of bad application behavior is quire rare, maybe one release 
version in 25 per year does this. 

It could just be caused by a malformed (botched syntax etc ...) settings file, 
per each work unit – so fixable.


MP DSN @ H

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