Re: How we were hoodwinked

2003-07-26 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 03:00:33PM -0500, Reggie Bautista wrote: Typically people with dyslexia have a hard time getting some words spelled close enough to correct that a spellchecker will be able to recognize them. This problem is not propaganda, You missed the point AND your statement

Re: The Case for a Marriage Ammendment to the Constitution

2003-07-26 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 03:51:27PM -0500, Reggie Bautista wrote: 2) You condone a law that would prevent 62 million American citizens from being able to get married and have children? How ironic. Apparently you only support freedom of speech, not freedom of thought or freedom of religion.

Re: The Case for a Marriage Ammendment to the Constitution

2003-07-26 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 02:32 PM 7/25/2003 -0500 Julia Thompson wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: You just insulted all bigots while trying to insult me! Personally, I'm prejudiced against bigots. Exactly. The point being that Erik is being wholly unproductive, uncivil, and unapologetic for equating prejudice against

Re: The Case for a Marriage Ammendment to the Constitution

2003-07-26 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 7:39 AM Subject: Re: The Case for a Marriage Ammendment to the Constitution At 12:06 AM 7/25/2003 -0500 Adam C. Lipscomb wrote: JDG poured an a$$load of

Re: Arrgh!

2003-07-26 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 25 Jul 2003 at 16:05, Reggie Bautista wrote: Bryon wrote: I'm sort of fanatical about this - I have approximately 8-9 fans in my (very large) PC tower case. Have you ever considered using some form of liquid cooling? http://store.epowerhousepc.com/cgi-bin/EPHstore.cgi?user_action=listc

Re: I have returned from paradise

2003-07-26 Thread Jim Sharkey
Bryon Daly wrote: Nice pics - I'm jealous! I'd love to visit Hawaii someday. It's well worth the price. Thanks for the nice words about the pictures; my wife got a pretty expensive digital camera for MOther's Day/our anniversary, and those pics are from that. Is Knight of the Dinner Table a

Re: The Case for a Marriage Ammendment to the Constitution

2003-07-26 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
JDG wrote: My position is based on the fact that I firmly believe that women and men are fundamentally different. I consider this differences to be effects of both fundamental biology, and, of course, differences in cultural roles. Well, duuuh! Differences in biology do not, hoever,

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-26 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 02:18 PM 7/25/2003 -0400 Jon Gabriel wrote: Actually, its called the House-Senate Conference Committe, and its been around for a very, very long time. I didn't mention this because it was in the MSNBC article. Frankly, I'm not sure why you bring it up, so it seems like a non sequiter to me.

Re: Arrgh!

2003-07-26 Thread G. D. Akin
I just got a re-confirm due to excessive bounces; this is the third time in about 6 weeks. What's up with this? George A - Original Message - From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 5:11 AM Subject: Arrgh! Is anyone else having their list

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-26 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 11:48 AM 7/25/2003 -0500 Julia Thompson wrote: JDG - Will you guys ever let it go? Probably not. (I'm just guessing.) Will you ever stop pointing out the EC stuff every time they mention it? :) Eh, probably not. I have an almost reflexive need to point out the truth - and ultimately

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-26 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 11:42 AM 7/21/2003 -0500 Julia Thompson wrote: What kind of blanket did you bring in? And is there some sort of mattress or padding that they can provide for you, or will you be on the floor? (That could get very uncomfortable if you were trying to sleep for more than, say, 45 minutes.) Eh,

SC2 Music (was Re: I have returned from paradise)

2003-07-26 Thread Jim Sharkey
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RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-26 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 07:52 AM 7/24/2003 -0700 Nick Arnett wrote: Setting aside sarcasm now... I think that you may be mistake in *expecting* the left to come up with a coherent war plan against terrorism. I think that's Gautam's point. If, as you seem to agree, the Left is simply incapable of coming up with a

Real Life Evil. Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-26 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 08:25 PM 7/24/2003 -0400 Robert J. Chassell wrote: I don't get this. Soldiers do not go on suicide missions because they think they are evil. They go on such missions because they think they are virtuous and that their actions will help their compatriots. Can you name a real life example of

Re: When does it end? (RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words)

2003-07-26 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 08:09 AM 7/21/2003 -0700 Nick Arnett wrote: Perhaps we are at war, but under that definition, I'm having a very hard time imagining that we will ever NOT be at war. We are not going to remove evil from the world, I'm quite sure. Some likely conditions; 1) The establishment of a secure, viable

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-26 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 01:02 PM 7/25/2003 + Robert J. Chassell wrote: If that is the case, why didn't the Administration say so? Why did the Pentagon say at the end of May that it was still intending to investigate 700 sites? Why, throughout May, did the US government say it was increasing the size of its

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-26 Thread John D. Giorgis
Ritu and Nick make similar points which I will respond to here. At 12:29 PM 7/25/2003 + Robert J. Chassell wrote: Robert J. Chassell wrote: The phrase The British have learned suggests to a listening public that the US President had US intelligence agencies

Re: TI interpreation of QM

2003-07-26 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 5:07 PM Subject: Re: TI interpreation of QM I wrote: I'd love to see your opinion of it when you get a chance. It's called the transactional interpretation, and John

Re: When does it end? (RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words)

2003-07-26 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Nick Arnett wrote: If this is not the future we want to create, then shouldn't we return to normal political discourse, in which one is not branded a traitor for questioning the leadership. If we can't question and criticize our leaders today, what is going to change to allow us to

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-26 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do think that without serious citizen oversight, the Ashcroft Justice Dept. would (or will) make a mockery of the Constitution. If people don't make noise about it, we will lose some of our civil rights and

Re: How we were hoodwinked

2003-07-26 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Erik Reuter wrote: On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 05:49:58PM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: Since we are being snippy... rest snipped snip (All this snipping is reminding me of the story about the 3 mythical women who cut the strings of people's lives when their time

Genetic fractions, was Re: The Case for a Marriage...

2003-07-26 Thread David Hobby
Julia Thompson wrote: David Hobby wrote: The above would have been easier to state if we had general kinship terms based on degrees of genetic relatedness. Sibling, parent and child are all halves. Grandparent, grandchild, aunt, uncle, niece, nephew, half-sibling, and so on are

Re: Religion based ethics

2003-07-26 Thread pencimen
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't there at least one, however vaguely defined purpose to evolution: success? No. Purpose presupposes intent. There is no intent in the happenstance that some of a set of erroneously self-replicated

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-26 Thread David Hobby
Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you think that Osama bin Laden objects to the same things about American foreign policy that you do? That's not a fair tactic in an

Re: Gray Davis Recall Election Set for Sep-Oct

2003-07-26 Thread pencimen
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course, California Democrats, instead of doing the wise thing and trying to get a solid candidate in there are rallying around the sinking ship. You mean, like the

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-26 Thread pencimen
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? I have heard many people claim that everybody talks when tortured. In the movies, the tortures that are applied seem so tame and unimaginative. How about Dustin Hoffman getting holes drilled in his teeth in Marathon Man?

Re: How we were hoodwinked

2003-07-26 Thread pencimen
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Provide a transcript that does not have cridbile backing. ??? Alied intelegance is considered credible. But still your missing the point. I just can't see how an intelegant person is hoodwinked by this rediculous

Re: Gray Davis Recall Election Set for Sep-Oct

2003-07-26 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Jon Gabriel wrote: It certainly looks to me like he's screwed and that the Democrats are (rather stupidly, imo) pinning all their hopes on him. Then again, CA Dems aren't coming across as geniuses in general these days. Did you see the report yesterday about the CA state legislators